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Derek Chauvin murder trial (George Floyd)

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    #572
    biko
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    I just hope BLM doesn't burn down Minneapolis if the police aren't found guilty.


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    #573
    [Deleted User]
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    biko wrote: »
    I just hope BLM doesn't burn down Minneapolis if the police aren't found guilty.

    I'm sure they will be mostly peaceful.


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    #574
    punisher5112
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    biko wrote: »
    I just hope BLM doesn't burn down Minneapolis if the police aren't found guilty.

    Or loot or start shooting little babies and kids again.

    Anyone following such a crazy movement needs to be shown for what they really are....


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    #575
    MrStuffins
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    penny piper wrote: »
    I presume what you are saying is that you can only see this through BLM's point of view....

    Presumption is folly


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    #576
    silverharp
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    CNN want their riots , its good for the bottom line $$$$$

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #577
    penny piper
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    biko wrote: »
    I just hope BLM doesn't burn down Minneapolis if the police aren't found guilty.

    It's pretty bad to see the Mayor of Minneapolis having to say there will be consequences for people who come to the city to cause trouble because of this trial.....must be going to be a very hard job for the jurors/witnesses.....


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    #578
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,774 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    penny piper wrote: »
    It's pretty bad to see the Mayor of Minneapolis having to say there will be consequences for people who come to the city to cause trouble because of this trial.....must be going to be a very hard job for the jurors/witnesses.....

    You wouldn't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that there will be mad riots if the cop is found not guilty.


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    #579
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    biko wrote: »
    I just hope BLM doesn't burn down Minneapolis if the police aren't found guilty.

    Whatever happens it won't be a mostly peaceful attempted coup. :D


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    #580
    MrStuffins
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    Pretty tough to listen to Christopher Martin testify. According to him, Mr Floyd paid with a counterfeit bill that (in the opinion of Mr Martin), Floyd didn't realise was fake.

    According to Mr Martin. it's the policy of the store that the clerk would have to replace the counterfeit money out of their own paycheck so Martin was asked to confront Mr Floyd.

    Must be tough for him knowing what he knows now. Due to all of this, a man was sent to the scene who would kill Mr Floyd............. for the sake of $20.

    Forget all the politics, the conspiracy theories about "the mainstream media" and the BLM stuff.

    The bottom line is, nobody deserves to be killed over $20!


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    #581
    [Deleted User]
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Pretty tough to listen to Christopher Martin testify. According to him, Mr Floyd paid with a counterfeit bill that (in the opinion of Mr Martin), Floyd didn't realise was fake.

    According to Mr Martin. it's the policy of the store that the clerk would have to replace the counterfeit money out of their own paycheck so Martin was asked to confront Mr Floyd.

    Must be tough for him knowing what he knows now. Due to all of this, a man was sent to the scene who would kill Mr Floyd............. for the sake of $20.

    Forget all the politics, the conspiracy theories about "the mainstream media" and the BLM stuff.

    The bottom line is, nobody deserves to be killed over $20!

    He should feel no guilt, it’s the shop owner who set the policy.


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    #582
    MrStuffins
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    He should feel no guilt, it’s the shop owner who set the policy.

    Yes, I agree with you.

    He should feel no guilt and neither should the manager or the worker who called the cops.

    When they got the police involved, i'm sure they were intending for an appropriate response. Not for the police to kill the man.

    Mr Chauvinis the one who should feel guilt.


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    #583
    penny piper
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Pretty tough to listen to Christopher Martin testify.

    According to Mr Martin. it's the policy of the store that the clerk would have to replace the counterfeit money out of their own paycheck so Martin was asked to confront Mr Floyd.



    The store issued a statement that they have never made any employee replace counterfeit money out of their own paycheck.....docking money from employees is also against state labor law....


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    #584
    BattleCorp
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    The bottom line is, nobody deserves to be killed over $20!

    He wasn't killed over $20. He was arrested over $20.

    What killed him was his own actions in resisting arrest and his drug taking, his medical condition and the actions of Chauvin.


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    #585
    MrStuffins
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    penny piper wrote: »
    The store issued a statement that they have never made any employee replace counterfeit money out of their own paycheck.....docking money from employees is also against state labor law....

    If I had witnessed what happened the last time someone broke the law in that store, i'd be releasing statements left, right and centre denying any wrong doing!

    I wouldn't even litter!


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    #586
    MrStuffins
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    He wasn't killed over $20. He was arrested over $20.

    And he was killed by the arresting officer, during the arrest.

    Tomato - Tomato


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    #587
    walshb
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Pretty tough to listen to Christopher Martin testify. According to him, Mr Floyd paid with a counterfeit bill that (in the opinion of Mr Martin), Floyd didn't realise was fake.

    According to Mr Martin. it's the policy of the store that the clerk would have to replace the counterfeit money out of their own paycheck so Martin was asked to confront Mr Floyd.

    Must be tough for him knowing what he knows now. Due to all of this, a man was sent to the scene who would kill Mr Floyd............. for the sake of $20.

    Forget all the politics, the conspiracy theories about "the mainstream media" and the BLM stuff.

    The bottom line is, nobody deserves to be killed over $20!

    You make it sound like the cops set out to go kill a man...

    They did not..

    There is more to it than that...


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    #588
    TomTomTim
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    He wasn't killed over $20. He was arrested over $20.

    What killed him was his own actions in resisting arrest and his drug taking, his medical condition and the actions of Chauvin.

    Was going to write just this. He's clearly trying very hard to absolve George of any guilt, which is ironic considering his claims of "balanced views" earlier in this thread. Should resisting arrest lead to death? Of course not, but he escalated the situation with his actions, which is common in nearly every BLM case.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #589
    penny piper
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    If I had witnessed what happened the last time someone broke the law in that store, i'd be releasing statements left, right and centre denying any wrong doing!

    I wouldn't even litter!

    Unless you are familiar with this store how do you know that?


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    #590
    MrStuffins
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    walshb wrote: »
    You make it sound like the coos set out to go kill a man...

    They did not..

    There is more to it than that...

    Strange that's how you'd perceive what I said :confused:

    If there was something specific that made you think that i'd happily discuss it but i've reread my post and can't find what you're talking about.


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    #591
    MrStuffins
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    penny piper wrote: »
    Unless you are familiar with this store how do you know that?

    How do I know what i'd do in that situation?
    MrStuffins wrote: »
    If I had witnessed what happened the last time someone broke the law in that store, i'd be releasing statements left, right and centre denying any wrong doing!

    Because I know myself pretty well


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    #592
    penny piper
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    How do I know what i'd do in that situation?




    You made a post as if you have knowledge of that particular store.....do you?


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    #593
    MrStuffins
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    TomTomTim wrote: »
    Of course not, but he escalated the situation with his actions.......

    I've heard this train of thought before but normally it's in the form of "she was asking for it" or "she shouldn't have dressed like that".
    penny piper wrote: »
    You made a post as if you have knowledge of that particular store.

    .......... no I didn't!


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    #594
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,529 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I've heard this train of thought before but normally it's in the form of "she was asking for it" or "she shouldn't have dressed like that".



    .......... no I didn't!

    Did he or did he not escalate the situation by his actions/resisting arrest?

    Yes or no?


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    #595
    MrStuffins
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    walshb wrote: »
    Yes or no?

    As I said........
    MrStuffins wrote: »
    If there was something specific that made you think that i'd happily discuss

    I'm willing to discuss it if you think I said the cops set out to kill Mr Floyd. I'm not sure I said that and i'm very curious to see why you perceived it that way,


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    #596
    walshb
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    As I said........



    I'm willing to discuss it if you think I said the cops set out to kill Mr Floyd. I'm not sure I said that and i'm very curious to see why you perceived it that way,

    No, we’ll leave it there.

    You are not capable of answering a simple yes/no question.


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    #597
    TomTomTim
    Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    walshb wrote: »
    No, we’ll leave it there.

    You are not capable of answering a simple yes/no question.

    All those creamy pints that he wouldn't shut up about for months have clearly affected his faculties :pac:

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #598
    MrStuffins
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    walshb wrote: »
    You are not capable of answering a simple yes/no question.

    Do I think that there was any action that was made by Mr Floyd that day that necessitated him being killed by Mr Chauvin, including resisting arrest?

    No.


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    #599
    KeepItLight
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Do I think that there was any action that was made by Mr Floyd that day that necessitated him being killed by Mr Chauvin, including resisting arrest?

    No.


    Not the question that you were asked.


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    #600
    walshb
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Do I think that there was any action that was made by Mr Floyd that day that necessitated him being killed by Mr Chauvin, including resisting arrest?

    No.

    Not what I asked..

    And I did not say you said the cops set out to kill

    I said it read like that. You cleared that up, so thank you.


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    #601
    BattleCorp
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Do I think that there was any action that was made by Mr Floyd that day that necessitated him being killed by Mr Chauvin, including resisting arrest?

    No.

    Here's a few yes or no questions.

    Do you think Floyd resisted arrest?

    Do you think Floyd's drug taking played a part in his death? Even a small part?

    Do you think Floyd's poor heart condition played a part in his death? Even a small part?

    Do you think Chauvin played a part in Floyd's death?

    Four yes or no questions.


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