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Civil service career progression

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  • #102
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Is there any assessment of managers based on their staff satisfaction/progression ? In the private sector, I've come across very few managers who are trying to raise all boats - most are trying to paddle their canoe while feigning otherwise! Does the public sector address this any better?

    PMDS is done downwards but feeds upwards, so every manager will have their own manager who will do an assessment of that manager's performance which should include things like staff performance and (probably to a lesser extent), morale. Something like a staff satisfaction survey would be an unfair way of measuring a manager's performance - from what I've seen, some would be crucified for little or no reason, especially dependent on the Department they happened to work in.


  • #103
    CivilServantCP
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭CivilServantCP


    Is promotion to HEO from CO common in internal competitions?



  • #104
    EarlyStorms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭EarlyStorms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119527006#Comment_119527006

    I wouldn't say it's common but it certainly does happen, I know of at least 2 examples in recent times personally.



  • #105
    billyhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭billyhead


    It usually happens for people who worked in managerial positions in the private sector who joined the CS as a CO just to get the foot in the door.



  • #106
    CivilServantCP
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭CivilServantCP


    From what i can make of it mobility as a CO away from Dublin is about as valuable for a midpoint (Point 6ish on the scale) CO as promotion to EO. The jump in money is marginal and if you have private sector managerial experience I would argue a move to EO could be a waste of time, rather than moving closer to home and focusing on getting the competencies examples in order and ready for an internal or open HEO campaign.



  • #107
    Vologda69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119529084#Comment_119529084

    Could describe me. Re-entered public service having been in private sector management for over 10 years (got tired of working long hours and weekends). Was a TCO for a few summers while in college. Got promoted to EO while still on CO probation....hoping to go for internal HEO when it opens in a few months.



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