The Masters 2021

Degag

rooney30 wrote: »

Not really feeling that leaderboard for tommorrow
. Hideki and Rose don’t exactly set the pulses racing

Xander could be a decent bet.

Great putt from Justin!

PARlance

rooney30 wrote: »

Not really feeling that leaderboard for tommorrow
. Hideki and Rose don’t exactly set the pulses racing

It does if you've been wanting Hideki to win for years

Deeper Blue

rooney30 wrote: »

Not really feeling that leaderboard for tommorrow
. Hideki and Rose don’t exactly set the pulses racing

I think a few could still win it, reckon Hideki will struggle tomorrow, particularly if the wind blows

Roger_007

Phenomenal scrambling by Rose.

FixdePitchmark

Not sure why - but watching some of the old Masters that Sky show- Tiger in his (late) prime versus Phil - 2009 , neither of them won. But what a time for golf.

Jaysus lads.


H. Matsuyama

W. Zalatoris

X. Schauffele

M. Leishman

J. Rose


Not a leaderboard that will have me on a Sunday - with a genuine nervousness and horrible wait to the too late live coverage.

Anyway - I know we all suffer from excessive nostalgia in golf - but even the older characters in '09 like - Chad Campbell , Kenny Perry - seem to be more real versus the modern bomb it pro / walking advert / skinny lads.

Maybe old age lads and covid - but - something not right with this Masters.

No Phil - Tiger - Rory , what is life without the characters.

At times like these - you'd even ask where is Bubba and Bryson.

poisonated

I’d like matsuyama to win. I think it would be good for the game. I could be wrong though.

FileNotFound

poisonated wrote: »

I’d like matsuyama to win. I think it would be good for the game. I could be wrong though.

I agree, although wouldn't mind a rose come back. Have a few quid on him

lawred2

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Not sure why - but watching some of the old Masters that Sky show- Tiger in his (late) prime versus Phil - 2009 , neither of them won. But what a time for golf.

Jaysus lads.


H. Matsuyama

W. Zalatoris

X. Schauffele

M. Leishman

J. Rose


Not a leaderboard that will have me on a Sunday - with a genuine nervousness and horrible wait to the too late live coverage.

Anyway - I know we all suffer from excessive nostalgia in golf - but even the older characters in '09 like - Chad Campbell , Kenny Perry - seem to be more real versus the modern bomb it pro / walking advert / skinny lads.

Maybe old age lads and covid - but - something not right with this Masters.

No Phil - Tiger - Rory , what is life without the characters.

At times like these - you'd even ask where is Bubba and Bryson.

Agreed. It's flat for me. There's no personality.

Mantis Toboggan

Lot of the top dogs missed the cut. I'll be watching but might slip to bed early if he gets through amen corner unscathed.

Speak Now

Huge pressure on Matsuyama tonight, will Japan finally get their first major in men's golf?

callaway92

For me, this Masters didn’t quite give me the same buzz as always, but that’s mostly down to burnout. We were treated to the Masters 2020 only 5 months ago whereas usually you have the year break and are itching for it again.

Similar for things like the 6 Nations this year where it felt like last years’ just ended and we were already into a new one.

Will likely be a forgotten Masters in a sense (unless someone like Spieth won). I’m just not enjoying it the same way I usually would a Masters.

Pussyhands

Agreed. It's been a bit meh.

No real big personalities up there. A Spieth/Thomas shootout would have been good.

Mac_Lad71

It's easy to get nostalgic about past Masters tournaments.

Nicklaus in 86, Mize's chip in, Norman's collapse, Tiger's wins, Phil's first win, McIlroys back nine implosion

Loads of 'bland' winners too in recent years..Immelman, Schwartzel, Scott, Willett, Weir, Cabrera, Zach Johnson.

Players come and go but the appeal for me is the course because no lead is big enough going into that back nine on Sunday and there is the potential for drama especially as only Rose has won a major before.

eagle eye

callaway92 wrote:

For me, this Masters didn’t quite give me the same buzz as always, but that’s mostly down to burnout. We were treated to the Masters 2020 only 5 months ago whereas usually you have the year break and are itching for it again.


Similar for things like the 6 Nations this year where it felt like last years’ just ended and we were already into a new one.


Will likely be a forgotten Masters in a sense (unless someone like Spieth won). I’m just not enjoying it the same way I usually would a Masters.

It's the November one that'll be the forgotten one as it wasn't like a real Masters.
What Matsuyama did yesterday over the final eight holes was incredible. Up there all time in back nines.
Is it that there's only one major winner near the top of the leaderboard that is doing this to you?
If Matsuyama does this he could go on to be a multiple major winner. Hard to believe that he's only 29 as he's been around so long and has contended in a fair few majors.
Zalatoris is a future major winner I think, gonna be a great one. He'll have two top tens after this one from two major events. Only 24 years old.
Corey Conners is another up and comer. He played well in November and is also 29.
Xander Schauffele, 7 top tens in 12 majors including a runner-up finish to Tiger in 2019 at the Masters. 27 years of age.
The next decade in golf is well represented here.
Then you have the old guys, Leishman whose contended a few times and Rose whose won a major and been twice runner-up at Augusta among his five top tens.
And just behind those is Spieth who we all know lots about. He hasn't putted well this week, watch out if that putter gets hot like it's done many times on a major Sunday. And he's still only 27.

Lip Out

Definitely a lackluster leaderboard. Matsuyama, whilst a great talent, is dull and lacks personality. Just my own thoughts but I also find it annoying that he still needs a translator after 10 years of being on tour and earning millions in the process.

Hoping for a Spieth charge up the leaderboard but probably too far back now unfortunately.

The_Kew_Tour

Corey Connors ball striking is as good as any top player I have seen. It’s a pity he is so meh with the putter.

This ain’t over yet. Xander has quietly went about his business. I still think anyone from Spieth up could do it.

LuckyGent88

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Not sure why - but watching some of the old Masters that Sky show- Tiger in his (late) prime versus Phil - 2009 , neither of them won. But what a time for golf.

Jaysus lads.


H. Matsuyama

W. Zalatoris

X. Schauffele

M. Leishman

J. Rose


Not a leaderboard that will have me on a Sunday - with a genuine nervousness and horrible wait to the too late live coverage.

Anyway - I know we all suffer from excessive nostalgia in golf - but even the older characters in '09 like - Chad Campbell , Kenny Perry - seem to be more real versus the modern bomb it pro / walking advert / skinny lads.

Maybe old age lads and covid - but - something not right with this Masters.

No Phil - Tiger - Rory , what is life without the characters.

At times like these - you'd even ask where is Bubba and Bryson.

You always love to be absolutely miserable with some of these tournaments.

Looking for characters; Speith is content gold, Leishman somehow gets around Augusta the same as Speith as he is a terrible driver, zalatoris doesn’t even have a pga tour card, Xander has a very interesting back story and is an absolute stud in the majors. The fact you think Campbell and Perry were more interesting characters is absolutely laughable. Both extremely boring.

Bryson is still about to provide plenty more intrigue. Expected way more from him yesterday.

Can’t say it’s over completely yet. Speith lost a 6 shot lead with only 9 holes to go, Rory blew a lead and Hideki has the pressure of a nation on his shoulders today. Shoots 70 or less he definitely wins it but I think the guys a seven under have the capability to shoot 66 or so. Think Xander is the main threat. He really needs to show some metal on these major Sunday’s as he has been in contention a good bit.

Roger_007

Lip Out wrote: »

Definitely a lackluster leaderboard. Matsuyama, whilst a great talent, is dull and lacks personality. Just my own thoughts but I also find it annoying that he still needs a translator after 10 years of being on tour and earning millions in the process.

Hoping for a Spieth charge up the leaderboard but probably too far back now unfortunately.

There are no players around the top of game now that have that X factor which gets the general public engaged and excited in the way that Woods, Ballesteros and Nicklaus did in their day. All the younger players now look like they came off the same conveyor belt, which I suppose they have.
Speith is probably the most entertaining player around now.

ThewhiteJesus

Hopefully they haven’t watered the greens so it’s lightening fast, some pressure on Hideki I bet he didn’t sleep a wink

hawaii501

Only a casual fan myself but hate when people use the term 'characters in any sport these days.

Sure if they show a bit of 'character' they get torn to pieces, you only have to look what happened Thomas a few weeks ago with his comment after a poor round.

And then to say its missing Rory is ridiculous, what 'character' does he have?

bustercherry

hawaii501 wrote: »

Only a casual fan myself but hate when people use the term 'characters in any sport these days.

Sure if they show a bit of 'character' they get torn to pieces, you only have to look what happened Thomas a few weeks ago with his comment after a poor round.

And then to say its missing Rory is ridiculous, what 'character' does he have?

What comment? The homophobic slur he used because he missed a putt?

Deeper Blue

This isn't over in my opinion.

An early bogey for Hideki and he could struggle.

One of the worst putters on tour aswell.

It'd be cool to finally see a japanese major winner though.

FileNotFound

bustercherry wrote: »

What comment? The homophobic slur he used because he missed a putt?

I did find that one a bit odd, a man uses a word towards himself and he is somehow insulting an entire group. Sure the word choice was poor, but when did meaning offence stop being relevant?

Or did I misunderstand that story?

Either way I think not having some of the players who can in 1 round change the whole competition is making it a bit less entertaining, I assume that's what people meant regarding the big personality thing.

Plenty of safe and consistent lads there who will lose it rather than win it.

LuckyGent88

So are we backing Hideki or the field?? While Hideki can be an awful putter he hasn’t and doesn’t make many mistakes with his long game. He is an exceptional ball striker.

Think he shoots 70 today so the chasing pack need a very low round to catch him. Still think it will tighten a bit but he will ultimately win it.

waynescales1

It feels like the PGA tour don’t want “characters”, they prefer players with excellent PR skills.

Who’s the fat golfer with blond hair? Former winner? Isn’t he barred from Augusta for life? That’s what being a character gets you.

Pussyhands

Sky's presenters are something else

Every sport, they know what they're doing.

First Up

LuckyGent88 wrote:

So are we backing Hideki or the field?? While Hideki can be an awful putter he hasn’t and doesn’t make many mistakes with his long game. He is an exceptional ball striker.

Think he shoots 70 today so the chasing pack need a very low round to catch him. Still think it will tighten a bit but he will ultimately win it.

Japan will be going berserk about this. They have their own TV crews covering their players in the regular tournaments in the US so heaven knows the excitement at the possibility of a win today.

vladmydad

waynescales1 wrote: »

It feels like the PGA tour don’t want “characters”, they prefer players with excellent PR skills.

Who’s the fat golfer with blond hair? Former winner? Isn’t he barred from Augusta for life? That’s what being a character gets you.

Who ?

spacecoyote

vladmydad wrote: »

Who ?

From the description, guessing he means Jon Daly?

Deeper Blue

waynescales1 wrote: »

It feels like the PGA tour don’t want “characters”, they prefer players with excellent PR skills.

Who’s the fat golfer with blond hair? Former winner? Isn’t he barred from Augusta for life? That’s what being a character gets you.

I assume you're referring to John Daly, however he's neither a former winner nor banned from Augusta to my knowledge.

vladmydad

This Masters is the first time it actually hit me that Phil and Tiger will never win the Masters again. It’s amazing how great players “suddenly” age out. It seems like yesterday that Furyk, Els, Singh, Goosen, Stricker were all the Favorites at Agusta.? The 1990’s generation has finally gone.

Ohmeha

I remember the days 10+ years ago when people were sick of the same "personalities" regularly dominating golf

fullstop

Deeper Blue wrote: »

I assume you're referring to John Daly, however he's neither a former winner nor banned from Augusta to my knowledge.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he was barred. Didn’t he turn up a number of years ago selling crap out of his motor home when he was flat broke? Really liked him as a player but he seems like a tool.

rooney30

Deeper Blue wrote: »

I assume you're referring to John Daly, however he's neither a former winner nor banned from Augusta to my knowledge.

He might not be banned from there but Augusta National did buy up a car park beside the course from where Daly sold his memerobilia, just to rid of him, it’ has been rumoured

eagle eye

Deeper Blue wrote:

One of the worst putters on tour aswell.

Well you see this has been his big problem but not this week.

Deeper Blue

fullstop wrote: »

Wouldn’t be surprised if he was barred. Didn’t he turn up a number of years ago selling crap out of his motor home when he was flat broke? Really liked him as a player but he seems like a tool.

Ya he was definitely banned from selling his merch outside the course, he moved to the nearby Hooters car park though I believe. Classy out.

The Big Easy

People still go on about the Masters being a putting contest, but there's far more great ball-strikers with green jackets than great putters.

You have to putt well to win, it's the same every week. You'll never win a Masters not striking the ball very well however. Hideki is a supreme iron player and it's the great iron players who end up with the green jackets.

Deeper Blue

eagle eye wrote: »

Well you see this has been his big problem but not this week.

Yesterday was the best I've seen him putt, hopefully it holds up under pressure today.

Deeper Blue

The Big Easy wrote: »

People still go on about the Masters being a putting contest, but there's far more great ball-strikers with green jackets than great putters.

You have to putt well to win, it's the same every week. You'll never win a Masters not striking the ball very well however. Hideki is a supreme iron player and it's the great iron players who end up with the green jackets.

Very true, of the recent winners off the top of my head Scott, Garcia, Bubba and Schwartzel weren't known for their putting prowess.

rovers_runner

That's Speith out of it anyway...

The Big Easy

Good to see Jose Maria, harbinger of my earliest Masters memories

waynescales1

Deeper Blue wrote: »

I assume you're referring to John Daly, however he's neither a former winner nor banned from Augusta to my knowledge.

Yeah John Daly. He’s neither a winner nor barred. He signs autographs and sells merchandise in the Hooter’s car park each year, which was recently purchased by the golf club. Which is almost the same as what I said...

The Big Easy

Fore right on the first with a 3 wood! We might have a contest yet!

Deeper Blue

That's a dreadful opening drive from Hideki

Roger_007

Hideki mightn’t have much of a lead after this hole!

waynescales1

Zalatoris piling the pressure on.

Where is Hideki’s chip onto the green off to?

Mushy

Likely premature in saying this, but getting interesting already

LuckyGent88

Well that escalated quicker than I thought.

FixdePitchmark

Ballsy enough lad Zalatoris - fair play.

FixdePitchmark

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Ballsy enough lad Zalatoris - fair play.

Not there :D:D