Eamon Ryan hoping to stop cheap flights to sunny destinations

Kivaro

I see on the front page of today's Sunday Independent that the Greens want to hike the dole by €50.

So there you have it folks. This is how the Green Party is going to try to recover from their disastrous time in government. This is a cynical and obvious vote-buying move by the Green Party.
What a bunch of cretins. They are a disgrace.

twinytwo

Major problem is the next election is not till 2025? Imagine the damage the likes of Ryan and o gorman will have done before we see the back of them

Mr. teddywinkles

Strumms wrote: »

What Eamoon Ryan has endeavored to do and is endeavoring to do for Ireland...

Re-Introduce wolves into Ireland, not Dublin Zoo, the wild. No care or interest as regards the livestock of farmers... wolves are extinct in Ireland for almost 240 years..that didn’t go down well.

He wants to cripple the aviation industry and Ireland and its people’s ability to travel.

A minister for transport who is against people traveling but wishes to fill the fücking country with wild wolves.

Don't forget firewood.

Arealred

RoversCeltic wrote: »

The money for cycle ways comes from.the transport budget, it means less is spent on roads rather than health. From now on, a certain percentage of the transport budget will be spent on active travel.

Budgets can be moved from one priority to another if there is a political will. The waste of money painting white lines on arterial routes into cities cutting in and out of live traffic is a waste of time and it is future generations that will pay for this nonsense. If you want to build a cycleway build it along river banks and disused railway lines into city / town centres.

And don't forget that the Greens cheerleaders who are very active on social media have skin in the game. The money wasted on consultants on active travel is money down the drain money we don't have.

Any travel budget should be spent on big capital projects like Cork Limerick motorway, bypassing Galway City and others.

Arealred

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

1 no amount of money given to the HSE will fix it cause it’s so incompetently run.
2 Perpetual debt is how the modern world runs.
3 The Finance ministries are held by FG and FF and have been for nigh on 85 years.
4 We import lettuce from the UK, Spain and the Netherlands, perhaps if more people bought Irish then the money would stay in Ireland.
5 The price of doing nothing on climate will be far higher then anything you can comprehend

The fact remains we have a poor health system and in some instances its because we can't recruit the doctors etc to tackle problems.
There is Debt and there is debt - we will end up paying for this nonsense down the line.
The balance of power is held by the Greens and they got a large amount of concessions to go into power. The Greens don't think of the poor 70 year old pensioner or the one income family when they ban Irish peat briquettes yet allow imported fuels from the four corners of the world.
Agree we should encourage and support Irish food producers
While the amazon forests are being cut down and China and others polluting as they wish, Ireland on its own will not solve climate change. The Greens policy of draconian taxes and hitting mainly poor households won't solve it. Do people think every household in Ireland have the necessary finances to bring their F or G rated house up to A or B standard.

Banana Republic 1

Arealred wrote: »

The fact remains we have a poor health system and in some instances its because we can't recruit the doctors etc to tackle problems.
There is Debt and there is debt - we will end up paying for this nonsense down the line.
The balance of power is held by the Greens and they got a large amount of concessions to go into power. The Greens don't think of the poor 70 year old pensioner or the one income family when they ban Irish peat briquettes yet allow imported fuels from the four corners of the world.
Agree we should encourage and support Irish food producers
While the amazon forests are being cut down and China and others polluting as they wish, Ireland on its own will not solve climate change. The Greens policy of draconian taxes and hitting mainly poor households won't solve it. Do people think every household in Ireland have the necessary finances to bring their F or G rated house up to A or B standard.

What your essentially saying is we should continue to live in a pigsty because there are others with bigger pigsties who are content to wallow.

Beechwoodspark

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Poor eamonn, he means well but is just a little lost and deluded, he won't last much longer anyway

Step away from the here and now personalities

Look at the wider climate situation and projections for future

Wanderer78

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Step away from the here and now personalities

Look at the wider climate situation and projections for future

i understand that, but that cohort of the green party, the older generations, dont truly understand the issues of the younger ones, they dont see the bigger picture at all, not only are we failing in meeting their environmental needs, but pretty much all of their other critical needs also. we need a major rethink of all of this, and the greens are continually dropping the ball here, but to be fair, so to are all the other parties, if this isnt done before the next ge, theyre could be serious outcomes

Eric Cartman

Wanderer78 wrote: »

i understand that, but that cohort of the green party, the older generations, dont truly understand the issues of the younger ones, they dont see the bigger picture at all, not only are we failing in meeting their environmental needs, but pretty much all of their other critical needs also. we need a major rethink of all of this, and the greens are continually dropping the ball here, but to be fair, so to are all the other parties, if this isnt done before the next ge, theyre could be serious outcomes

Themantra of taxing current and future generations into oblivion to pay for things has to be off the table though.

Wanderer78

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Themantra of taxing current and future generations into oblivion to pay for things has to be off the table though.

yup, and this is where the greens are going wrong, theyre also stuck in this dimensional thinking, this isnt gonna work, no wonder theres a rump happening there

RandomViewer

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Step away from the here and now personalities

Look at the wider climate situation and projections for future

It snowed last night, global warming ,me hole!

Wanderer78

RandomViewer wrote: »

It snowed last night, global warming ,me hole!

climate change isnt weather!

RandomViewer

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Does he really have a staff following him in a car with his papers etc while he cycles ahead? The energy rating of Dail Eireann should mean it should be leveled to the ground, why is it still standing? Any time I pass it windows are fully open to let out the million dollar heat being pumped in to it,

Dublin won't be the capital in a United Ireland, it'll have to be a neutral venue so Dail will be a DP centre

RandomViewer

Wanderer78 wrote: »

climate change isnt weather!

Climate change was formerly known as global warming which became impossible to sell so hence the new name,

Wanderer78

RandomViewer wrote: »

Climate change was formerly known as global warming which became impossible to sell so hence the new name,

oh ffs!

RandomViewer

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Like Leo veradkar then.

Birds of a feather

Arealred

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

What your essentially saying is we should continue to live in a pigsty because there are others with bigger pigsties who are content to wallow.

Not what I am saying. The Greens shouldn't introduce draconian measures that affect the poor, the vulnerable and rural communities without clear path as to what we are doing. For instance they encouraged diesel cars 10 years ago, people went to expense to change over, now they want electric but in 10 years time when everyone has got electric they realise the damage the batteries are doing to environment and change again.

They also changed the road tax to 200 euro for large diesel engines. Road tax revenue fell and mainly rural road users suffered.

A few years ago they encouraged wood burning stoves they have now changed course. Grand if you are in leafy suburbs to keep up with their change of direction but vast majority can't afford this nonsense. New houses aren't allowed chimneys, this is the kind of stuff from the 1850's.

The Greens and their cronies will be wiped out after next election but we will still end up paying the price.

Wanderer78

Arealred wrote: »

Not what I am saying. The Greens shouldn't introduce draconian measures that affect the poor, the vulnerable and rural communities without clear path as to what we are doing. For instance they encouraged diesel cars 10 years ago, people went to expense to change over, now they want electric but in 10 years time when everyone has got electric they realise the damage the batteries are doing to environment and change again.

They also changed the road tax to 200 euro for large diesel engines. Road tax revenue fell and mainly rural road users suffered.

A few years ago they encouraged wood burning stoves they have now changed course. Grand if you are in leafy suburbs to keep up with their change of direction but vast majority can't afford this nonsense. New houses aren't allowed chimneys, this is the kind of stuff from the 1850's.

The Greens and their cronies will be wiped out after next election but we will still end up paying the price.

unfortunately this is more than likely where things are going, and we need a major green movement, or we re all fcuked

RandomViewer

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Trees grow at 800ft on Irish/Scottish uplands if left alone. Our uplands are stripped bare by overgrazing, if we left them alone for a while and fenced off areas instead of commonage and sheep everywhere we'd see a huge boost to biodiversity in Ireland. Unfortunately setting fire to any type of growth on uplands is what we do in Ireland.

There hasn't been a sheep on most of the mountains in Donegal for over 20years, no sheep dung meant no fertilisation, dead white grass replaced the living plants, so called environmentalists have been responsible for gorse fires as the tried to destroy turf cutting,
Eco-terrorists are the world's next big threat,

Eric Cartman

Arealred wrote: »

Not what I am saying. The Greens shouldn't introduce draconian measures that affect the poor, the vulnerable and rural communities without clear path as to what we are doing. For instance they encouraged diesel cars 10 years ago, people went to expense to change over, now they want electric but in 10 years time when everyone has got electric they realise the damage the batteries are doing to environment and change again.

They also changed the road tax to 200 euro for large diesel engines. Road tax revenue fell and mainly rural road users suffered.

A few years ago they encouraged wood burning stoves they have now changed course. Grand if you are in leafy suburbs to keep up with their change of direction but vast majority can't afford this nonsense. New houses aren't allowed chimneys, this is the kind of stuff from the 1850's.

The Greens and their cronies will be wiped out after next election but we will still end up paying the price.

Their votes are from comfortable middle class city dwellers more concerned about being perceived as ‘good’ rather than thinking about the realities of life.

Hopefully theyll get wiped out in the next election and we can hopefully get back Leo’s ‘cut the usc’ era FG to filter out climate strategies that hurt agriculture or industry

RandomViewer

MyLove4Satan wrote: »

This is pure truth but Lefties do not have the psychological faculties to understand such realities.

Greens aren't left, Irish Greens are elitist capitalists,

Wanderer78

Wanderer78 wrote: »

oh ffs!

RandomViewer wrote: »

Greens aren't left, Irish Greens are elitist capitalists,

.............

Eric Cartman

RandomViewer wrote: »

Greens aren't left, Irish Greens are elitist capitalists,

Wouldn't even say capitalists , almost academic feudalists or caste system feudalists.

They want a society where the upper middle class and rich can pay the green toll to live their modern existence while those unable to afford it have to live meek , basic, minimalist existences.

RandomViewer

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Their votes are from comfortable middle class city dwellers more concerned about being perceived as ‘good’ rather than thinking about the realities of life.

Hopefully theyll get wiped out in the next election and we can hopefully get back Leo’s ‘cut the usc’ era FG to filter out climate strategies that hurt agriculture or industry

They got in on SF 3rd and 4th preferences, voters who won't vote FF/FG little knowing they'd get the same gombeens only dressed by Oxfam

Red Silurian

Electric airplanes and boats are the future, don't knock the idea of more railway tunnels under the Irish sea or English channel either

Wanderer78

Red Silurian wrote: »

Electric airplanes and boats are the future, don't knock the idea of more railway tunnels under the Irish sea or English channel either

hydrogen id say, it ll be a while though

Eric Cartman

Theres 0 point in voting for a ‘green’ party who are anti nuclear, its our obly hope for truly clean, reliable on-demand power

Wanderer78

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Theres 0 point in voting for a ‘green’ party who are anti nuclear, its our obly hope for truly clean, reliable on-demand power

disagree with the vote on the greens, im a proud voter of them, but do agree in regards nuclear, but theres no such thing as true clean energy, not at the moment anyway

Banana Republic 1

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Themantra of taxing current and future generations into oblivion to pay for things has to be off the table though.

Debt is intrinsic to capitalism

Eric Cartman

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Debt is intrinsic to capitalism

Not really, balanced budgets, low government spending and low taxation are pillars of capitalism, tax borrow and spend is the centre left social democratic model which the greens preach, borrow borrow borrow for votes and let future generations pay it back