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Eamon Ryan hoping to stop cheap flights to sunny destinations

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    #92
    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Emissions reduced by 6% in Ireland, nowhere near enough given the targets FG signed up to.

    that suits my side of the argument... even if we kept up reduced pandemic mileage and flights the burden would be massive and the co2 reduction is probably not even measurable


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    #93
    RandomViewer
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    spring lane jack wrote: »
    Back to flytipping so. The money saved on bin charges can go on flights.

    It's away to fxxk the last while, sh1t dumped everywhere, dont get the fridges and tellys ,


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    #94
    Thelonious Monk
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    RandomViewer wrote: »
    It's away to fxxk the last while, sh1t dumped everywhere, dont get the fridges and tellys ,

    All Eamon Ryan's fault i suppose


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    #95
    eggy81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭eggy81


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Saw a report during the week how they are closing the peat briquette factory but don't worry they're importing the replacements from Eastern Europe, couldn't fxxking make it up

    Heard a lad in work talk about this the other week. Thought he was messing. Is it actually true?


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    #96
    gmisk
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    Who needs a holiday when you can spend your holidays growing salad on your window box....


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    #97
    Lmkrnr
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    A cheap flight or Smug Eamon Ryan telling you what to do. That's easy.


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    #98
    RandomViewer
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    eggy81 wrote: »
    Heard a lad in work talk about this the other week. Thought he was messing. Is it actually true?

    Think it was RTE on Monday, the Irish version is going up to about €6.30 on May 1st, saw the import ones at 4.20 yesterday so even with the carbon tax they'll still be cheaper, was never a fan, too much ash


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    #99
    frozenfrozen
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    eggy81 wrote: »
    Heard a lad in work talk about this the other week. Thought he was messing. Is it actually true?
    Staff at the Derrinlough plant near Birr claim the arrival of imported coal and wood briquettes into the country is already threatening their livelihood and the cost of the additional carbon credits will raise the price of a briquette by up to 80 cents, a move which will price them out of business, they say.

    Fuel merchants have told RTÉ News that there has been a significant increase in the demand for Dutch-imported wood briquettes and German brown coal products over the last 6 months.

    Many shops are marketing the products as replacements for the peat briquette but three workers at the Derrinlough factory say staff there are angered that while they cannot continue to make briquettes into the long term, these products are being imported here in huge numbers.

    from
    Bord na Móna denies reports of 'rationing' of peat briquette supplies - RTE


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    #100
    RandomViewer
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    All Eamon Ryan's fault i suppose

    Never said it was but with people at home a lot more it was obvious waste would increase


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    #101
    Lofidelity
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Lofidelity


    The global fashion industry causes more environmental damage than aviation.
    Maybe Eamonn should do something about that first.


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    #102
    Thelonious Monk
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    Lofidelity wrote: »
    The global fashion industry causes more environmental damage than aviation.
    Maybe Eamonn should do something about that first.

    Yes because if Eamon came out and said there should be huge taxes on cheap clothing everyone would be in favour.


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    #103
    Snake Plisken
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    Screw Ryan and the greenies on here who support his stance! Why punish ordinary families looking for a two week break in the Sun and also hits the many europeans living and working here looking to travel home to see family and friends!
    The Rip Van Winkle should be more worried about his own position within the disfunctional Greens!


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    #104
    RandomViewer
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    Lofidelity wrote: »
    The global fashion industry causes more environmental damage than aviation.
    Maybe Eamonn should do something about that first.

    VdP seems to be is main source for clothing so hardly on his radar


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    #105
    RandomViewer
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yes because if Eamon came out and said there should be huge taxes on cheap clothing everyone would be in favour.

    The irony of the coalition imploding over it


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    #106
    Thelonious Monk
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    It was announced the briquette factory would be closed in 2017, how did Eamon pull that one off when he wasn't in government?


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    #107
    Nermal
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    A zero-carbon life is a life of poverty.

    It's a hard sell.

    But Eamon and the movement have to start slowly, somewhere.

    If they revealed the full implications of their policies, no-one would listen.


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    #108
    blanch152
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    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    Another chance for all the lefties to call this "An attack on the most vulnerable in society".
    satguy wrote: »
    No,

    But it is an attack on the average working family.

    You are correct, it can only affect flights within the EU if it is a European agreement. The average working family can only afford to go to Spain, you need to be on social welfare to be able for the winter trip to Dubai.


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    #109
    Lmkrnr
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    Nermal wrote: »
    A zero-carbon life is a life of poverty.

    It's a hard sell.

    But Eamon and the movement have to start slowly, somewhere.

    If they revealed the full implications of their policies, no-one would listen.
    We've no choice to listen now. We voted (Unfortunately) to put them in power. Not for long though.


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    #110
    eggy81
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    Lmkrnr wrote: »
    We've no choice to listen now. We voted (Unfortunately) to put them in power. Not for long though.

    Be fairly sh!te if sf go in with them again next time around.


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    #111
    Thelonious Monk
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    Lmkrnr wrote: »
    We've no choice to listen now. We voted (Unfortunately) to put them in power. Not for long though.

    All parties have Green policies in their manifestos. Who will you blame for these things when the next government is formed?


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    #112
    gifted
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    This dope wants to run our lives......telling us to change our cars...change our fuel....throw up wind turbines everywhere....everyone has to use public transport now the toss pot is telling us we can't fly anymore......jesus wept ...this country is turning into North Korea


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    #113
    Thelonious Monk
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    gifted wrote: »
    This dope wants to run our lives......telling us to change our cars...change our fuel....throw up wind turbines everywhere....everyone has to use public transport now the toss pot is telling us we can't fly anymore......jesus wept ...this country is turning into North Korea

    Every progressive country are doing the things you listed, maybe not North Korea though.


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    #114
    Del.Monte
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    satguy wrote: »
    The last GE showed us two things.

    No.1 Just how spineless FF really are.
    No.2 Just how bad the Green Party really is.

    Thanks ..

    SF next time for sure.


    Litter picker in one hand and an armalite in the other.

    ****



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    #115
    gifted
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Every progressive country are doing the things you listed, maybe not North Korea though.

    Progressive and Wolf man Ryan shouldn't be on the same page.......bail out many banks lately?


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    #116
    Lmkrnr
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭Lmkrnr


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    All parties have Green policies in their manifestos. Who will you blame for these things when the next government is formed?

    When folk start getting hit in the pocket they will blame the people responsible. All roads lead to Green policies for high fuel costs . Even if they are only mudguards in the current government they are everything a person outside a city will come to hate. Well, people who need to travel to work.


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    #117
    Beechwoodspark
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    Some reading I’d recommend

    The uninhabitable earth - David Wallace wells

    Revenge of Gaia - James lovelock

    The future we choose - Matt haig

    There is no planet B - Mike Berners lee


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    #118
    Thelonious Monk
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    Lmkrnr wrote: »
    When folk start getting hit in the pocket they will blame the people responsible. All roads lead to Green policies for high fuel costs . Even if they are only mudguards in the current government they are everything a person outside a city will come to hate. Well, people who need to travel to work.

    Well thankfully we are becoming more urbanised and populations are growing in urban areas, so hate green policies all you like but they'll keep coming. We need to change how we consume if the planet has any hope, the only thing people understand is hitting their pocket.


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    #119
    Lofidelity
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yes because if Eamon came out and said there should be huge taxes on cheap clothing everyone would be in favour.

    Maybe it's time for a carbon tax on clothes, at least to raise awareness. Most people don't think about the pollution involved in manufacturing or disposal.

    I don't deny aviation or motor vehicles are causing pollution but they seem to get all the attention.


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    #120
    eggy81
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Well thankfully we are becoming more urbanised and populations are growing in urban areas, so hate green policies all you like but they'll keep coming. We need to change how we consume if the planet has any hope, the only thing people understand is hitting their pocket.

    Why thankfully becoming more urbanised?


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    #121
    Lmkrnr
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭Lmkrnr


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Well thankfully we are becoming more urbanised and populations are growing in urban areas, so hate green policies all you like but they'll keep coming. We need to change how we consume if the planet has any hope, the only thing people understand is hitting their pocket.

    No thanks. Well see at the next election.


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