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RIP Nikki Grahame

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  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Who IS she
    Who is SHE
    WHO IS SHE!

    RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,787 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Another example of how lockdowns have negative effects on people's health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Sad to see that, she always seemed so fragile and damaged.
    Not sure putting her on big brother exactly helped her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    Another example of how lockdowns have negative effects on people's health.
    Huh? She was fundraising for life saving surgery so nothing to do with lockdowns I would think...unless you know different?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ah that is very sad. I remember seeing a pic of her on some tabloid or other a while back and God love her she looked dreadful.

    Rest in Peace Nikki.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,787 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    gmisk wrote: »
    Huh? She was fundraising for life saving surgery so nothing to do with lockdowns I would think...

    Her mother said that she wasn't able to go the gym and therefore wouldn't eat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    Her mother said that she wasn't able to go the gym and therefore wouldn't eat.
    Its a reach to blame covid lockdowns as per the story she broke hip etc, was fundraising for life saving surgery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    Her mother said that she wasn't able to go the gym and therefore wouldn't eat.

    could she not go for a run? or would someone not let her use their gym equipment?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »
    Its a reach to blame covid lockdowns as per the story she broke hip etc, was fundraising for life saving surgery

    Gonna take a wild guess that it was related.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    She finally lost her long battle with anorexia. The poor girl. And so young. That is just terrible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    gmisk wrote: »
    Its a reach to blame covid lockdowns as per the story she broke hip etc, was fundraising for life saving surgery

    Dunno where you're seeing that, in the link I posted in the OP her friends were trying to raise money for her to get private treatment for her anorexia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,440 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Well, that's just awful. Hopefully her death with inspire others to get help. It's a dreadful illness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    May she now rest in peace xx


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Charlie19 wrote:
    Another example of how lockdowns have negative effects on people's health.


    She did an interview recently and said her anorexia was worse than ever as a result of covid and all the lockdowns etc. God love her. It's terribly sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Dunno where you're seeing that, in the link I posted in the OP her friends were trying to raise money for her to get private treatment for her anorexia.

    Its in the link
    "Then in December she fell down and cracked her pelvis in two places and broke her wrist. I stayed with her for three or four weeks because she couldn’t do anything.”

    She struggled with anorexia for a long long time, before the gyms were shut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Gonna take a wild guess that it was related.
    To anorexia yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,787 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    gmisk wrote: »
    Its a reach to blame covid lockdowns as per the story she broke hip etc, was fundraising for life saving surgery

    Well her mother said that lockdown had an impact on her mental health because of the isolation that came with it and going the gym was a big part of her life both socially and physically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    gmisk wrote: »
    Its a reach to blame covid lockdowns as per the story she broke hip etc, was fundraising for life saving surgery


    Fundraising for specialist private care for anorexia nervosa




    We have set up this page for our very close and dear friend Nikki. As some of you may know, Nikki is battling Anorexia. She has been battling for most of her life and as you can see, Nikki is now in a very bad way so we need to do something quickly.



    Over the past years Nikkis family and friends have tried so desperately to get Nikki all the help possible through the NHS but unfortunately the treatments have failed and we have exhausted every avenue possible, and now Nik is unfortunately in a very bad way, this is now our


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Her friends had shared some images of her recently trying to raise money to get her into a special clinic. I just looked at the pictures and they are absolutely horrific. I'm not surprised she died after seeing them. It's a terrible illness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Haven’t a clue who she is

    But that’s a terrible way to go

    RIP


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can't understand why anyone would be defensive about covid and all that's come with it having a negative effect on someone with anorexia. It's not much of a leap at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭BettyS


    RIP!

    She had anorexia nervous for many years. The lifetime prevalence of anorexia is 1% for women. It is a truly awful condition, and stole this poor woman of a wonderful life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I can't understand why anyone would be defensive about covid and all that's come with it having a negative effect on someone with anorexia. It's not much of a leap at all.

    Absolutely . Anorexia nervosa is a mental health issue and covid will have huge negative effects on anyone with mental health problems


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyways God love her. If there is another life, I hope she's at peace.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    It’s a horror. It must be one of the worst mental health issues to suffer from.
    People feel that the only aspect of their lives they can have total control over is their calorie intake, so they determine to fixate on their weight.
    It used to be referred to as “the slimming disease” when I was young but it turned out to be far more complicated then that.
    The incomparable Karen Carpenter died from complications related to her multiple eating disorders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Absolutely . Anorexia nervosa is a mental health issue and covid will have huge negative effects on anyone with mental health problems

    People without mental health issues prior to Covid have developed them as a result, let alone people living with mental illness.

    Anorexia nervosa is THE most lethal mental illness of them all. Awful thing to suffer from and horrific for loved ones who have to watch the sufferer disintegrate and waist away in front of their eyes. I think eating disorders are still very poorly understood, and they are often manifestations of more complex mental health issues.

    What an awful way to die. What an awful tragedy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I'll admit I'd never heard of Nikki as I don't watch BB, but I googled when I saw the thread.

    Horrendous illness and such a tragic way to die. The mental illness with the most obvious physical signs, yet still often fatal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Wallet Inspector


    I worked with an anorexic/bulimic woman (thankfully recovered since). God help her it was frightening and heartbreaking. Her shocking thinness, the way she was always saying "oh I'm stuffed - I had loads to eat earlier", the way she was constantly going to the loo to make herself sick.

    Terrifying. A therapist I know who recovered from it herself said it's not even about food - it's about control, perfection, it's kinda related to OCD, and it can also be about not wanting to enter adulthood, or it can result from abuse/trauma.

    My mother used to be a nurse - she retired early because cases like this (including boys too) were just too upsetting for her to handle anymore. And she's a tough woman.

    A nightmare of a disease. Poor Nikki and her family - and all going through the same.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod:

    There was a post actioned which I have deleted as it was disrespectful and trolling. I have also deleted the responses. Report folks, don't react. Thanks.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’m so coooooooooooold



    RIP sweetheart


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    Shocked that I actually recognized the name. After all the years, plus I hated that BB shyte.

    Looked at a best of clip of her meltdowns just now, and yeah she was clearly very mal-adjusted to adult life, very histrionic and dramatic. Childish, attention seeking tantrums.

    Something was very wrong whether it was psychiatric/physiology or just her personality/behavior.
    The anorexia must have been related to whatever was going on, horrible illness. She deserved better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    I think poor Nikki wanted to stay a little girl forever. The older she got the less physical resemblance to a child she had, the less tolerance her childish behaviour would find. The uncertainty around Covid and her vulnerability to it must have sent her compulsion to restrict her food intake into overdrive. It's such a tragic life and death.




  • Charlie19 wrote: »
    Her mother said that she wasn't able to go the gym and therefore wouldn't eat.

    Probably a bit more to it than that to be fair. You're pursuing an agenda.


  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭BettyS


    Probably a bit more to it than that to be fair. You're pursuing an agenda.

    Her life was blighted for many years by anorexia. Anecdotally, I know somebody who has anorexia and has improved due to the structure of lockdown and the presence of her parents at meal-times. Anorexia is a strange beast. It can be triggered from something as small as a comment to the effect that you look much better with the extra weight or a dramatic change in circumstances, such as moving or a new job


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    I want to make an important distinction. Her mental health difficulties were not exasperated by Covid as some have indicated. They were exasperated by the ludicrous, overzealous, hysterical, needless, selfish lockdowns that were imposed due to Covid. And to those who say “couldn’t she just go for a run”? You have no idea how stupid that is.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Big Brother was ****ing great back in the day before social media.


  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭BettyS


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Big Brother was ****ing great back in the day before social media.

    Remember the whole Nasty Nick debacle. It seemed so juicy at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    So sad. I watched her in BB many moons ago, she was a bit of a ditz but harmless and generally a nice person. It’s sad when anorexia gets to that stage, she was far too young to die.


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    I just can't understand anorexia. How can you see yourself as being fat when you're so small in comparison to others? When you feel so weak and are clearly starved, or about to die, can you not see that you need to consume calories? I would love to understand it a bit more because I have a young daughter and it does seem to hit teenage/young women the most. I understand an obsession with being lean, but not starved. It would be an AMA I would definitely read with interest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Jayesdiem wrote: »
    I want to make an important distinction. Her mental health difficulties were not exasperated by Covid as some have indicated. They were exasperated by the ludicrous, overzealous, hysterical, needless, selfish lockdowns that were imposed due to Covid. And to those who say “couldn’t she just go for a run”? You have no idea how stupid that is.

    How can you be sure, if it wasn't covid it might have been something else, anyway RIP a terrible illness and way to die


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭take everything


    TP_CM wrote: »
    I just can't understand anorexia. How can you see yourself as being fat when you're so small in comparison to others? When you feel so weak and are clearly starved, or about to die, can you not see that you need to consume calories? I would love to understand it a bit more because I have a young daughter and it does seem to hit teenage/young women the most. I understand an obsession with being lean, but not starved. It would be an AMA I would definitely read with interest.

    It's an awful condition.

    When it gets to the stage where health is in danger the thinking/belief about oneself's weight/size, although an overvalued idea is for all intents and purposes a delusion.

    And that's hard to deal with outside of meds.

    She always struck me as a nice person.

    Edit: actually I should edit and say it is basically obsessional/compulsive in nature but at the stage this girl was at It has to have a delusional nature to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Wallet Inspector


    TP_CM wrote: »
    I just can't understand anorexia. How can you see yourself as being fat when you're so small in comparison to others? When you feel so weak and are clearly starved, or about to die, can you not see that you need to consume calories? I would love to understand it a bit more because I have a young daughter and it does seem to hit teenage/young women the most. I understand an obsession with being lean, but not starved. It would be an AMA I would definitely read with interest.
    It's a mental illness and an obsessive compulsive condition. Lack of logic underpins these. Like you and I can see the absurdity of what the patient is thinking in relation to themselves, but they can't. No matter how much it's laid out to them, no matter how much evidence there is against what they're thinking.

    The mind can be a terrifying place when not functioning as normal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Could you equate anorexia with obesity, to the point where a person with obesity knows that their lifestyle will kill them but can't stop, silly question maybe but both can inevitably lead to early death


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Wallet Inspector


    Could you equate anorexia with obesity, to the point where a person with obesity knows that their lifestyle will kill them but can't stop, silly question maybe but both can inevitably lead to early death
    Yeah both eating disorders and obsessive. Probably comparable in some ways.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,519 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    TP_CM wrote: »
    I just can't understand anorexia. How can you see yourself as being fat when you're so small in comparison to others? When you feel so weak and are clearly starved, or about to die, can you not see that you need to consume calories? I would love to understand it a bit more because I have a young daughter and it does seem to hit teenage/young women the most. I understand an obsession with being lean, but not starved. It would be an AMA I would definitely read with interest.

    It messes with the brain, so no, they can't see.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12038397_Starving_the_brain_Structural_abnormalities_and_cognitive_impairment_in_adolescents_with_anorexia_nervosa


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    Could you equate anorexia with obesity, to the point where a person with obesity knows that their lifestyle will kill them but can't stop, silly question maybe but both can inevitably lead to early death

    There are people who are clinically obese but not through overeating so obesity itself is not an eating disorder, it’s just medical terminology.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 128 ✭✭Ckendrick


    Just watched some clips of her participation in BB.
    I presume that BB engaged a mental health professional to vet the contestants beforehand ?
    If so then that “professional” must have known perfectly well that she was far too unstable and delicate for this caper.
    If they didn’t spot it during the auditions, then it’s hard too explain why she wasn’t rumbled during the filming.
    Makes you wonder if CH4 actually sought out vulnerable people in order to create the necessary “drama” to make the show entertaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Very sad news. RIP Nikki. X


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Ckendrick wrote: »
    Just watched some clips of her participation in BB.
    I presume that BB engaged a mental health professional to vet the contestants beforehand ?
    If so then that “professional” must have known perfectly well that she was far too unstable and delicate for this caper.
    If they didn’t spot it during the auditions, then it’s hard too explain why she wasn’t rumbled during the filming.
    Makes you wonder if CH4 actually sought out vulnerable people in order to create the necessary “drama” to make the show entertaining.

    I remember reading somewhere (this may not be true) that she failed the psych evaluation for BB3 but they done away with it by the time she reapplied. Her year was full of people who probably should not have been there


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