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Ultimate Battle of The Beatles

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    #272
    El Gato De Negocios
    Registered Users Posts: 7,000 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Really enjoying your commentary on the picks Arghus, hope you keep it up.


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    #273
    abff
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    Group I

    Hello Goodbye
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
    No Reply
    Eleanor Rigby


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    #274
    abff
    Registered Users Posts: 5,767 ✭✭✭abff


    Group J

    Girl
    Ticket To Ride
    You're Going to Lose That Girl
    Mother Nature's Son


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    #275
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Group I

    Hello Goodbye

    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away

    No Reply

    Eleanor Rigby


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    #276
    abff
    Registered Users Posts: 5,767 ✭✭✭abff


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    ‘Strawberry Fields’ not getting through is criminal. The work that went into recording that song was phenomenal.

    Stitching together different takes that were in different tempos, and keys, requiring an engineer to get under the desk to reduce the power getting into the console. Criminal!

    As there will be 4 wild cards going through at the end of this round, I don’t think you need to worry too much about Strawberry Fields Forever being eliminated. I’ll be astonished if it doesn’t get one of the wild cards.

    How’s that going to be run by the way? Will be get a list of all 92 first round losers and be asked to choose the 4 we want to go through? Or will everyone just be asked to pick 1 song from the 92?


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    #277
    El Gato De Negocios
    Registered Users Posts: 7,000 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Everyone picks 4 from the 92 eliminated, the 4 with most votes will go through to round 2.

    I'll post the full list of what's been eliminated for ease of reference once round 1 concludes.


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    #278
    Trigger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,541 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Group I
    Hello Goodbye vs I Want You (She's So Heavy)
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away vs Don't Bother Me
    Maggie Mae vs No Reply
    Eleanor Rigby vs Don't Pass Me By

    Group J
    Girl vs Good Night
    Ticket To Ride vs Thank You Girl
    You're Going to Lose That Girl vs Helter Skelter
    Mother Nature's Son vs Your Mother Should Know


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    #279
    Declan A Walsh
    Registered Users Posts: 6,095 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Trigger wrote: »
    Group I
    Hello Goodbye vs I Want You (She's So Heavy)
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away vs Don't Bother Me
    Maggie Mae vs No Reply
    Eleanor Rigby vs Don't Pass Me By

    Group J
    Girl vs Good Night
    Ticket To Ride vs Thank You Girl
    You're Going to Lose That Girl vs Helter Skelter
    Mother Nature's Son vs Your Mother Should Know

    At least one person is on the same wavelength as me regarding the two underlined songs! :D
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #280
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users Posts: 10,777 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Declan A Walsh wrote: »
    At least one person is on the same wavelength as me regarding the two underlined songs! :D

    Disgraceful!

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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    #281
    ari101
    Registered Users Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭ari101


    Group I
    Hello Goodbye
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
    No Reply
    Eleanor Rigby


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    #282
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Group J

    Girl

    Ticket To Ride

    Helter Skelter

    Your Mother Should Know


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    #283
    ari101
    Registered Users Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭ari101


    Group J
    Good Night
    Ticket To Ride
    You're Going to Lose That Girl
    Your Mother Should Know


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    #284
    Trigger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,541 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    Disgraceful!

    In your opinion...


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    #285
    the purple tin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Group I
    I Want You (She's So Heavy)
    Don't Bother Me
    Maggie Mae
    Eleanor Rigby


    Group J
    Good Night
    Thank You Girl
    You're Going to Lose That Girl
    Mother Nature's Son


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    #286
    Declan A Walsh
    Registered Users Posts: 6,095 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    the purple tin wrote: »
    Group I
    I Want You (She's So Heavy)
    Don't Bother Me
    Maggie Mae
    Eleanor Rigby


    Group J
    Good Night
    Thank You Girl
    You're Going to Lose That Girl
    Mother Nature's Son

    That's three now (including me) that have voted for those two underlined, and I thought I would be on my own! :D
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #287
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users Posts: 10,777 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Trigger wrote: »
    In your opinion...

    My votes should count for 5.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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    #288
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    My votes should count for 5.

    Because you have 5 accounts on here is it?!


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    #289
    Reberetta
    Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Reberetta


    Group I
    Hello Goodbye
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
    No Reply
    Eleanor Rigby

    Group J
    Girl
    Ticket To Ride
    You're Going to Lose That Girl


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    #290
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    El Gato De Negocios wrote: »
    Technically its superb of course but its always left me a bit flat.

    This applies to a lot of Beatles songs for me, unfortunately. Though, of course, there are some great ones too.


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    #291
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Mod: Please remember the spirit of the game here. A little gentle ribbing over song preferences is fine, but let's not take this too seriously. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, as in all Tournament games.


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    #292
    Sawduck
    Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭Sawduck


    Group I

    Hello Goodbye
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
    Maggie Mae
    Eleanor Rigby


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    #293
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Group J:

    Girl vs Good Night - I thought this would be an easy one as I've always liked Girl and had previously found Good Night a bit arch or overly cheesy, but in 2021 I'm surprised about I much I don't mind Good Night. Ringo's voice is great and it's just very nice. After all the chaos and occasional grimness of The White Album it's a pleasant send off and I'll allow myself to think it's sincere.

    But, Girl is class. Some people say Rubber Soul is their best album, being a good halfway point between the pop brilliance of early Beatles and the experimentation of the late period. I don't know, but it's not a completely daft opinion and Girl is one of those songs on it that illustrates that inbetween appeal of that album really well. It's accessible and undemanding at first listen, but it's quite moody and complex - the lyrics are bitter and biting and there's that tension of Lennon audibly breathing in hard throughout the song, like a man in pain. There's this sense of just about contained hysteria in the song, it's a standout from that era. Also it's cool that they are singing "tit, tit, tit" in the background.

    Ticket to Ride vs Thank You Girl - Thank You Girl is grand, the little harmonica fills are cute, but it's nothing special really. Ticket to ride is one of their best. The difference in complexity and craft between the two songs, recorded two years apart, is striking: way more light and shade in the lyrics, far more accomplished musicianship, better hooks and a really interesting arrangement. I love how the drums kinda drag you through the song, very rhythmically interesting song.

    You're Going to Lose That Girl vs Helter Skelter - You're Going to Lose that Girl is pretty good, that hook is damn catchy and while it is simple enough every component part is exactly right.

    But Helter Skelter is way more interesting. Being honest, it's never totally convinced me. I never feel like putting on Helter Skelter when I want to rock out. There's other Beatles tunes that rock my socks off a bit more - Money, Twist and Shout, Yer Blues, Come Together etc, etc - even if Helter Skelter is the most "noisy" song they ever put together. And that myth about it being the invention of Heavy Metal is total crap: The Who had been doing the likes of this since 1965 - but all that aside, I still find it an intriguing enough song. Paul can't really convincingly rock - always a bit mannered, a bit put on - but he does his absolute best here and that main riff is great. I especially like that pure raw guitar part that you get an earful of when the rest of the band fades away for a bit at 3:11, that part does rock, pity it fades out pretty quickly. And of course, Ringo shouting is hilarious.

    Mother Nature's Son vs Your Mother Should Know - Your Mother Should Know is grand - very musical hall-y and a bit fundamentally pointless - but still a far from offensive tune.

    But it's not on the same level as Mother Nature's Son. A truly beautiful song. There's a lot of hippy dippy idealism in the lyrics, but there's a pain in McCartney's voice as he sings them that saves them. And that gorgeous wordless vocal melody, ah, how it manages to be so gorgeous and yet so sad simultaneously. And every part of the accompanying instruments and arrangement is tastefully and perfectly placed. Stunning song.


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    #294
    ShaneU
    Registered Users Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Arghus I am looking forward to this deep level of song analysis in your Walrus :pac:


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    #295
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    ShaneU wrote: »
    Arghus I am looking forward to this deep level of song analysis in your Walrus :pac:

    That's why it's taking so long Shane!


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    #296
    El Gato De Negocios
    Registered Users Posts: 7,000 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Group K

    I Will

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-abNGP1BK4


    vs

    The End

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12R4FzIhdoQ


    I'm Looking Through You

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH6i9JAdJrQ


    vs

    I Saw Her Standing There

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxwAB3SECtc


    Yes It Is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acWj7M0-9rY


    vs

    Penny Lane

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU


    Flying

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ONJQLdZrk


    vs

    Money (That's What I Want)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeWjEYhk7Xo


    Group K
    I Will vs The End
    I'm Looking Through You vs I Saw Her Standing There
    Yes It Is vs Penny Lane
    Flying vs Money (That's What I Want)


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    #297
    rainbowtrout
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    Group K
    I Will vs The End
    I'm Looking Through You vs I Saw Her Standing There
    Yes It Is vs Penny Lane
    Flying vs Money (That's What I Want)


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    #298
    EmmetSpiceland
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    That’s a toughie.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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    #299
    Purgative
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    Group K
    I Will
    I Saw Her Standing There
    Penny Lane
    Money (That's What I Want)


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    #300
    Declan A Walsh
    Registered Users Posts: 6,095 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Group K
    I Will vs The End - Great musicianship on this track and feature's the best drum solo (maybe the only drum solo!) by Ringo

    I'm Looking Through You vs I Saw Her Standing There

    Yes It Is vs Penny Lane

    Flying vs Money (That's What I Want) - Flying is a very lightweight instrumental that is credited to all four, more likely Paul!
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    #301
    Reberetta
    Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Reberetta


    Group K

    I Will
    I'm Looking Through You
    Penny Lane
    Money (That's What I Want)


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