Ultimate Battle of The Beatles

Necro

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

Getting close now.

Gave you a plug in the Ultimate Tournament thread in AH as well

BeatleMania Promo

Wouldn't be a fan myself outside of their really massive tracks but looking on at this with great interest to see what the real fans think

Arghus

Irish Aris

Necro wrote: »

Gave you a plug in the Ultimate Tournament thread in AH as well

BeatleMania Promo

Wouldn't be a fan myself outside of their really massive tracks but looking on at this with great interest to see what the real fans think

I feel the same Necro. Never considered myself a big fan. Looking at my music library I only have the 2 double cd collections (the red and blue albums) and Abbey Road - and an unofficial monophonic release called Introspective.
So I will use this tournament as an opportunity to explore their discography further.

El Gato De Negocios

Cheers Necro!

Format of the tournament will be as follows.

Kicks off around 20:00 this evening assuming I get the kids to bed and nothing unexpected crops up.

In round 1, there are 92 groups with 2 songs per group.

I will post them in blocks of 4, so in each post there will be 8 songs and people pick their preferred choice from each of the 4 and post their picks on thread.

People will obviously have their favourites but Im conscious of overloading so Im thinking making 2 posts per night to allow people to give a listen or two to some of the lesser known songs. That would equate to 16 songs per day for 12 days to get us past round 1. Votes will be counted for a 24 hour period only.

The winners from Round 1 will be entered into an open draw for round 2 and so on until we whittle it down to the top two songs.

Im thinking for the final, we will have a secret vote as in people will PM me their pick, allow 48 hours for people to decide then have the reveal. For the sake of transparency, once the winner is revealed I will post on thread who voted for what song.

I will abstain from voting in any of the rounds but will cast the deciding vote in the event there is a tie in any of the rounds.

Looking forward to kicking it off and hopefully people discover something new, its hard to top finding new songs to stick on repeat!

May the best Beatle win!!

quickbeam

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

Format of the tournament will be as follows.

Sounds good. Will the songs be seeded? You don't necessarily want potentially the two most popular songs against each other in the first round and one getting knocked out immediately. Or if no seeding, then maybe consider a second chance round where all the losers from Round 1 are voted for and 2 (say) get to go in to roud 2?

El Gato De Negocios

quickbeam wrote: »

Sounds good. Will the songs be seeded? You don't necessarily want potentially the two most popular songs against each other in the first round and one getting knocked out immediately. Or if no seeding, then maybe consider a second chance round where all the losers from Round 1 are voted for and 2 (say) get to go in to roud 2?

Nope, no seeding, just a straight shoot out.

I toyed with the idea of having seeds but tbh that just gives (imo) an unfair advantage to the heavy hitters. By not having seeds it means people really have to consider their choices and that in essence is what this is all about, getting the consensus of what is their best song overall.

Could maybe have a second chance for round 1 only where 2 songs that are eliminated in round 1 can get back in for round 2 based on a second vote. Let me think about it and I will finalise something before we kick off.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

So we have 24 hours to get the votes in each time? I really like that.

I'm getting too old for the first to 7 votes or most votes in 20 minutes style of tournament, I like something that offers a lot more breathing room like this that I can get more invested in and ultimately be more crushingly disappointed when the rest of these feckers make the wrong choice... :pac:

Arghus

Obviously Revolution Number 9 is going to walk it.

El Gato De Negocios

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

So we have 24 hours to get the votes in each time? I really like that.

I'm getting to old for the first to 7 votes or most votes in 20 minutes style of tournament, I like something that offers a lot more breathing room like this that I can get more invested in and ultimately be more crushingly disappointed when the rest of these feckers make the wrong choice... :pac:

Yep. I think for something like this, it's key to give people the chance to really think about their picks. I've discovered many times over the years with music that with one or two listens I wouldn't think much of them but when I sat down and properly listened I discovered i actually loved the song. Plus it allows people that may be AFK for a while a chance to participate.

abff

Arghus wrote: »

Obviously Revolution Number 9 is going to walk it.

It will be interesting to see how the songs from the White Album (with apologies for referring to it by that name) will fare.

I note there is no seeding planned. Will the draw be totally random, or will it be done chronologically or using some alternative non random way of deciding on the pairings?

El Gato De Negocios

abff wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how the songs from the White Album (with apologies for referring to it by that name) will fare.

I note there is no seeding planned. Will the draw be totally random, or will it be done chronologically or using some alternative non random way of deciding on the pairings?

Round 1 draw has already been made. I used an online randomiser. Entered all 184 song titles into it, selected they be added into pairs and hey presto, draw made. Looking at the round 1 draw, if it were me having to choose, there are a couple of pairings that would be extremely difficult for me to pick one over the other.

ari101

I like the extra voting time, given there are definitely going to be lots of songs in here I don't know, and I can have time to get a fair hearing

El Gato De Negocios

Less than 5 hours left!

Arghus

I'm going to read along song by song with Revolution In The Head. A book every Beatles fan should own:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_in_the_Head:_The_Beatles%27_Records_and_the_Sixties

El Gato De Negocios

So I think we will run with QB's suggestion.

Of the 92 songs eliminated in round 1, we will hold a second vote and the top 2 picks will both move on to round 2.

This is the only round that this will occur and after that, once its gone its gone.

See you all at 8!

El Gato De Negocios

Its 20:00, the kids are in bed, and we are ready to go.

the purple tin

El Gato De Negocios

Group A

I'm a Loser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70Z3cvrQd0

Vs

Another Girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMBYNWr5R_U

I'm Happy Just to Dance With You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7X1oUfa8uE

Vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQA59IkCF5I

Long, Long, Long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vUCdfwlgw

Vs

Come Together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45cYwDMibGo

Tomorrow Never Knows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNbHn3i9S4

Vs

Honey Pie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sr0efOe8yk

Group A
I'm a Loser vs Another Girl
I'm Happy Just to Dance With You vs Dear Prudence
Long, Long, Long vs Come Together
Tomorrow Never Knows vs Honey Pie

Collie D

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

So I think we will run with QB's suggestion.

Of the 92 songs eliminated in round 1, we will hold a second vote and the top 2 picks will both move on to round 2.

This is the only round that this will occur and after that, once its gone its gone.

See you all at 8!

Apologies if you’ve explained this but I’ve scanned the thread and can’t see it but won’t that leave you with uneven numbers?

92 Round 1 winners and 2 wild cards is 94. So after Round 2 we’ll be down to 47 songs.

Looking forward to this by the way.

El Gato De Negocios

Collie D wrote: »

Apologies if you’ve explained this but I’ve scanned the thread and can’t see it but won’t that leave you with uneven numbers?

92 Round 1 winners and 2 wild cards is 94. So after Round 2 we’ll be down to 47 songs.

Looking forward to this by the way.

Ballbag, you are correct!!

Damn you Quickbeam!!!!!!!

:pac::pac::pac:

Ok, we will amend it to the top 4 from those eliminated after round 1 will be added to round 2. That should even it out?

El Gato De Negocios

Just a general request when voting. To make my life easier with tracking the votes, when posting, please make sure to note which Group the songs are taken from, eg, for the first group, the following is how I would like votes presented.

Group A
I'm a Loser
I'm Happy Just to Dance With You
Long, Long, Long
Tomorrow Never Knows

I will make sure to post the songs in each post in an easily quotable format for those using the touch site.

abff

Group A
Abstain
Dear Prudence
Come Together
Honey Pie

rainbowtrout

Group A
Another Girl
Dear Prudence
Come Together
Tomorrow Never Knows

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Group A
I'm A Loser
Dear Prudence
Come Together
Honey Pie

Purgative

Group A
I'm a Loser
I'm Happy Just to Dance With You
Come Together
Honey Pie

quickbeam

The 24 hour thing is a great idea, because I never usually listen to songs and only vote if I already know them. But I've lsitened to all 8 here (I only knew one):

Group A
I'm a Loser - prefer it
I'm Happy Just to Dance With You - wasn't crazy about either, but this was a bit better
Come Together - the one I knew, good song
Honey Pie - nice old fashioned tune and the other was horrible

Declan A Walsh

Group A
I'm a Loser vs Another Girl
I'm Happy Just to Dance With You vs Dear Prudence
Long, Long, Long vs Come Together
Tomorrow Never Knows vs Honey Pie

El Gato De Negocios

Group B

Something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UelDrZ1aFeY

vs

Till There Was You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHAqAO7w8M8

The Word

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfBEqiEhCgM

vs

If I Needed Someone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt5OoWr4v1k

Let It Be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYfEBY9NM4

vs

I'll Cry Instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfnkMBOSIUQ

I Want To Tell You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXusIyqQ2o

Vs

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J9NpHKrKMw

Group B
Something vs Till There Was You
The Word vs If I Needed Someone
Let It Be vs I'll Cry Instead
I Want to Tell You vs Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da

Collie D

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

Ballbag, you are correct!!

Damn you Quickbeam!!!!!!!

:pac::pac::pac:

Ok, we will amend it to the top 4 from those eliminated after round 1 will be added to round 2. That should even it out?

You’ll still end up with an uneven number somewhere though unless at some point you have a number with the root of 2 ie 128, 64, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2...winner.

Although if you do go with 92 first round winners and 4 wild cards you could go head to head all the way and end up with a 3-way final.

Collie D

Just to prove I’m not here to piss on your cornflakes and be a pain here’s my Group A picks.

Group A
I'm a Loser vs Another Girl
I'm Happy Just to Dance With You vs Dear Prudence
Long, Long, Long vs Come Together
Tomorrow Never Knows vs Honey Pie