Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

IRISHSPORTSGUY

is_that_so wrote: »

I saw it on breaking news - a comment from Eamonn Ryan.

Here too.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0422/1211323-covid-ireland/

George Lee says there's about 600k people between the ages of 50-60 and 600k J&J vaccines. Might work out grand so.

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

Yes, 4 weeks for each now. Have you seen this link? It's pretty clear.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison

Thank you hadn't seen that.

hmmm

Russman wrote: »

If this was the case, I wonder would they hold off doing the 50s until the J&J arrives in country, or plow on through them with the mRNA shots ? And potentially have a good portion of them done before the big deliveries of J&J arrive.

It'd be getting silly if the under 50s are done before the 50s to 70s. It'll be interesting to see if the rise in cases today represents a glitch or a trend.

I hope they don't adopt an unnecessary "out of an abundance of caution" approach to J&J if the risk is low. There seems to be no consideration of the costs of lockdown and how desperate people are for it to end. Dragging out the vaccination schedule for an extra few weeks, or worse months, is not cost-free.

AdamD

NIAC also met on three separate days less than two weeks ago before formulating its advice on the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

That came after the EMA said people needed to be informed of a very rare risk of an unusual type of blood clot.

The advice on that last occasion was not to administer the AstraZeneca vaccine to under-60s as there was a plentiful supply of alternative mRNA vaccines available.

This would be fine if there was a plentiful supply of alternative mRNA vaccines available, but there is not.


If the virus is serious enough to keep us in level 5 for months, we should be using these vaccines. If they don't think the trade off is worth it, open the country.

wadacrack

More evidence J&J is effective against variants and safe. South Africa to resume administering it.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1384975362203918337

stephenjmcd

is_that_so wrote: »

I saw it on breaking news - a comment from Eamonn Ryan.

Here too.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0422/1211323-covid-ireland/

That's a hypothetical situation he is referencing that if it were over 50s then there wouldn't be an issue.

They don't know what NIAC will recommend yet

PatrickDoherty

Leo made a very good point today on Newstalk, If there was only 1 vaccine available there would be no delay in getting it into every arm and the miniscule risks wouldn't be half talked about, victim of success the vaccines are.

Goldengirl

AdamD wrote: »

The societal effects of restricting these vaccines need to be considered. This is ****ing madness

To be fair they are not " restricting these vaccines " any more than many other countries .

is_that_so

TheDoctor wrote: »

If all goes well when could we see that in Ireland? End of the summer?

CureVac originally said June but now it might be May, It's not far away!

celt262

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

George Lee says there's about 600k people between the ages of 50-60 and 600k J&J vaccines. Might work out grand so.

Would be a great way to get a full group catered quickly.

iamwhoiam

Altough I am thrilled to be vaccinated and am not at all whinging but a teeny tiny bit miffed ! The 60-70 group will wait 12 weeks to be fully vaccinated and whoever gets J and J just a few weeks
Cant be helped and glad to have got any vaccine .

is_that_so

stephenjmcd wrote: »

That's a hypothetical situation he is referencing that if it were over 50s then there wouldn't be an issue.

They don't know what NIAC will recommend yet

Yeah it's just a throwaway but restrictions would scupper the minorities/homeless proposal for J&J.

Goldengirl

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

Leo made a very good point today on Newstalk, If there was only 1 vaccine available there would be no delay in getting it into every arm and the miniscule risks wouldn't be half talked about, victim of success the vaccines are.

And one or two severe effects and your only vaccine would be snookered ?

We are undoubtedly in a better situation with so many good vaccines .

stephenjmcd

Gael23 wrote: »

Looks like the government are expecting an age 50 restriction for J&J.

I think you're misreading the comment that was made

Strazdas

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

George Lee says there's about 600k people between the ages of 50-60 and 600k J&J vaccines. Might work out grand so.

I'd say a fair few over 50s will receive Pfizer and Moderna as well if J & J is available (as the aim is to vaccinate 80% of the entire adult population, right down to late teenagers, in the next 10 weeks).

is_that_so

Fake Pfizer vaccines!

US pharmaceutical company Pfizer says it has identified counterfeit versions of its coronavirus vaccine in Mexico and Poland.

The doses were seized by authorities in the two countries and confirmed by tests to be fake.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-56844149

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

Fake Pfizer vaccines!



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-56844149

If ever there was an appropriate story to turn off the swear filter for. What complete c.unts

TomOnBoard

Deleted User wrote: »

If ever there was an appropriate story to turn off the swear filter for. What complete c.unts

I thought the exact same thing!

Hopefully, there is a Hell, and the monsters who tried to make money out of peoples' lives in such a scheme will reside in the special, volcanic heat of it for all eternity!

Sadly, there probably isn't and these knuts will drive their Ferraris and smoke their Havanas while ppl who thought they had protection drop like flies! :mad:

JPup

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Altough I am thrilled to be vaccinated and am not at all whinging but a teeny tiny bit miffed ! The 60-70 group will wait 12 weeks to be fully vaccinated and whoever gets J and J just a few weeks
Cant be helped and glad to have got any vaccine .

One dose of J&J gives similar protection to one dose of AZ so you are no worse off medically speaking and will be better off most likely once you have the second dose.

Strazdas

JPup wrote: »

One dose of J&J gives similar protection to one dose of AZ so you are no worse off medically speaking and will be better off most likely once you have the second dose.

It's very possible J & J recipients will get a second dose of something else a bit later anyway.

iamwhoiam

JPup wrote: »

One dose of J&J gives similar protection to one dose of AZ so you are no worse off medically speaking and will be better off most likely once you have the second dose.

Thanks for the info that good to know . . Ah no I am delighted to have it but can imagine if a vaccine passport is needed for anything thr 60-70,s will be a tiny bit miffed !

Goldengirl

Strazdas wrote: »

It's very possible J & J recipients will get a second dose of something else a bit later anyway.

Yes. A booster .
Your comment reads like they might get Covid , but we know you didn't mean that :eek:

Strazdas

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes. A booster .
Your comment reads like they might get Covid , but we know you didn't mean that :eek:

Haha, that would be somewhat defeating the purpose of the vaccine

eoinbn

Strazdas wrote: »

I'd say a fair few over 50s will receive Pfizer and Moderna as well if J & J is available (as the aim is to vaccinate 80% of the entire adult population, right down to late teenagers, in the next 10 weeks).

If it is restricted to the over 50s it will be interesting to see what they do.
70% of J&J is due in June and probably a lot of it in late June. Should we vaccinate the 50s in parallel to the 60s? One with J&J the other with AZ? Do we vaccinate the 30-49s in parallel with mRNA while the over 50s wait for J&J?
If we just use what is available then in theory the over 50s could be done in the first half of June with hundreds of thousands of J&J going unused.

sporina

people who have a terminal illness.. where are they in the vaccine rollout?

Gael23

I’m getting my first vaccine next week.
On immune suppressant injections along with various other conditions

ACitizenErased

sporina wrote: »

people who have a terminal illness.. where are they in the vaccine rollout?

group 4 one would assume

ACitizenErased

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1385331565073518597?s=20

Strazdas

eoinbn wrote: »

If it is restricted to the over 50s it will be interesting to see what they do.
70% of J&J is due in June and probably a lot of it in late June. Should we vaccinate the 50s in parallel to the 60s? One with J&J the other with AZ? Do we vaccinate the 30-49s in parallel with mRNA while the over 50s wait for J&J?
If we just use what is available then in theory the over 50s could be done in the first half of June with hundreds of thousands of J&J going unused.

I'm assuming that giving J & J only to people in their 50s would be somewhat unworkable. Surely the logical thing to do would be to give them whatever is available and to hand in May and June, be it J & J, Pfizer or Moderna - especially if the plan is they mostly get vaccinated before those in their 40s and 30s.

That would free up a good few J & J doses for younger people.....something that age cohort might feel happy about (again, assuming that there is no age cut off point for J & J, unlike with AZ).

Zipppy

Daughter in Canada, 26, registered for vaccine today.
This country is a shambles run by gombeens...