Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Scuid Mhór

One day at a time!

twiglet24

SusanC10 wrote: »

Have you been in touch with the GP? Is it that s/he is not doing Cohort 4/7?

They only get a delivery of vaccine every two weeks apparently and have only just about finished up with the over 70s, so they said to register on the portal as it will be a while before they get to us.
That’s why my husband was dithering- trying to weigh up his options. He decided not to wait, as there is always the chance that the GP will decide not to continue on.

SleetAndSnow

Mother is 55 and just got her appointment for Tuesday in Pairc Ui Chaoimh! Delighted! That'll be both parents done and dusted!

scouser123

Hi,

60 years old. Registered on exact day I was supposed to. No registration text yet.
Heard of lots of 50 year olds getting vaccinated so called the Vaccination line.
Was told I had put in the wrong cohort and he would escalate me.
Can't understand this as I don't recall any 'cohort' option in the registration process other than selecting my DOB.
Now I have heard of lots of people in their 60's still not called.

I wonder if there is a system problem?

revelman

scouser123 wrote: »

Hi,

60 years old. Registered on exact day I was supposed to. No registration text yet.
Heard of lots of 50 year olds getting vaccinated so called the Vaccination line.
Was told I had put in the wrong cohort and he would escalate me.
Can't understand this as I don't recall any 'cohort' option in the registration process other than selecting my DOB.
Now I have heard of lots of people in their 60's still not called.

I wonder if there is a system problem?

Perhaps they put you on the waiting list for 50-59 by accident?

scouser123

Hmmm , maybe. Thaks

bodhrandude

How come no one has posted since 12:49?

Le Bruise

bodhrandude wrote: »

How come no one has posted since 12:49?

No news is good news!:)

revelman

bodhrandude wrote: »

How come no one has posted since 12:49?

We have run out of things to say...

stephenjmcd

Paul Reid : HSE on track for 250,000 vaccine doses this week, next week it'll be 260,000-280,000 doses

Pandiculation

Can anyone make a reasonable guess at what the timeline for the next few weeks will be?

I’m just thinking this 40s to mid 30s cohort is very large. It’s very hard to guesstimate when we will get to the end of the 40s

Also what are the expected volumes of vaccines? There’s always discussion about AstraZeneca & J&J but the main driver looks to be Pfizer/BioNTech. Are those supplies stable and ramping up? Or are we at the upper limit?

Also what’s going on with Moderna? I would have assumed they’d have been delivering more by now.

Red Silurian

Deleted User wrote: »

But the frequency is higher with AZ and the issue is caused by an abnormal immune response.

Also, are the SARS-CoV2 vaccines using adenovirus viral vectors not the first widely distributed vaccines using an adenovirus vector?

Answering you one at a time

1. AZ was rolled out earlier and is in many more arms than J&J is so it's not possible to compare the two vaccines

2. Yes they are, it's also the first time mRNA technology has been used, let alone so widely

The latest UK data has been published:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

Only a small increase in clotting cases since the last update a week ago:

20 additional cases (262 overall)
2 additional deaths (51 overall)
2 additional cases after a second dose (8 overall)

The incidence rate seems to be slowing down compared to the last few weeks, which is good. I wonder what's driving that.

KrustyUCC

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Paul Reid : HSE on track for 250,000 vaccine doses this week, next week it'll be 260,000-280,000 doses

While 250,000 would be a big figure and great to see quarter of a million it's the lowest end of the estimate for the week 250,000 - 270,000


Not a very big increase from last weeks figure


Must be supplies slowing down?

stephenjmcd

KrustyUCC wrote: »

While 250,000 would be a big figure and great to see quarter of a million it's the lowest end of the estimate for the week 250,000 - 270,000


Not a very big increase from last weeks figure


Must be supplies slowing down?

Supplies aren't slowing down,

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/c3693-update-on-covid-19-vaccine-deliveries-12-may-2021/

They got a big delivery of 401k 2 weeks ago, that's been driving things. They haven't actually been delivered 250k a week.

Pace of injection has been outstripping incoming supply & not to forget the mountain of AZ they've been ploughing through.

I believe the Pfizer deliveries are due to go up another notch in the next week or two

KrustyUCC

Cool thanks

Turtwig

Flying Fox wrote: »

The latest UK data has been published:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

Only a small increase in clotting cases since the last update a week ago:

20 additional cases (262 overall)
2 additional deaths (51 overall)
2 additional cases after a second dose (8 overall)

The incidence rate seems to be slowing down compared to the last few weeks, which is good. I wonder what's driving that.

Could be any range of factors.

The rate is so small we cannot definitely state any trend yet.
Let's assume there is one:
Coincidence.
Lower risks groups to COVID being vaccinated and these people for whatever reason have lower risks of the adverse reaction.
Changing of demographics to almost even 50/50 split male/female. Women were about 3 times more like to experience CVST prior to the vaccines.
Any others?

stephenjmcd

New referral system if a GP isn't taking part in cohort 4 or 7

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1392839240828952579?s=20

Flying Fox

Flying Fox wrote: »

The latest UK data has been published:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

Only a small increase in clotting cases since the last update a week ago:

20 additional cases (262 overall)
2 additional deaths (51 overall)
2 additional cases after a second dose (8 overall)

The incidence rate seems to be slowing down compared to the last few weeks, which is good. I wonder what's driving that.

Their current rollout is about 4:1 in favour of second doses, possible that clots are mostly occurring after first dose. And the second doses are currently going to people far less likely to clot (over 60s). You may see an increase again once second doses reach the 40s and 50s.

Added to that they've stopped giving it to under 30s and now under 40s (or at least those people are given the option of another vaccine).

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Their current rollout is about 4:1 in favour of second doses, possible that clots are mostly occurring after first dose. And the second doses are currently going to people far less likely to clot (over 60s). You may see an increase again once second doses reach the 40s and 50s.

Added to that they've stopped giving it to under 30s and now under 40s (or at least those people are given the option of another vaccine).

True, though bear in mind there's a time lag in the reporting (it doesn't cover the period after the age limit was raised to 40) and also a lag between vaccination and onset of symptoms. So these cases would be in people vaccinated anywhere between early to late April.

JTMan

Interesting Reuters article on whether we will need boosters here.

- More than a dozen influential infectious disease and vaccine development experts told Reuters that existing vaccines may offer enduring protection.
- Concern that public expectations around COVID-19 boosters are being set by pharmaceutical executives rather than health specialists but preparing for such a need as a precaution was prudent.
- WHO said "we don't see the data yet that would inform a decision about whether or not booster doses are needed".
- Former CDC director said "There is zero, and I mean zero, evidence to suggest" that boosters are needed.
- Pfizer Inc Chief Executive Albert Bourla has said people will "likely" need a booster dose of the company's vaccine every 12 months.
- Moderna Inc CEO Stephane Bancel aims to produce a vaccine by the fall that targets a variant first identified in South Africa and expects regular boosters will be needed.
- Pfizer-BioNTech efficacy slightly wanes from 95% to 91% after 6 months. i.e. "a little evidence" of a decline in immunity over those six months.
- "It's quite possible" that boosters would not be needed, Fauci told Reuters.

revelman

Richard Chambers on Twitter reporting from a press conference that Paul Reid is saying that they are waiting for “clarity” from NIAC before they can set out when age groups might expect to get their vaccine. Also interestingly says that the “HSE recommendation for vaccine use was on the basis that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine would be used through age groups of 35+”

Did anyone hear the press conference? Other media reports suggesting earlier in the week that they were pushing for 45+. First I have heard of 35+.

freshpopcorn

My 59 year old mother has being called and she’s happy because she’s getting the Pfizer one!

Valhallapt

revelman wrote: »

Richard Chambers on Twitter reporting from a press conference that Paul Reid is saying that they are waiting for “clarity” from NIAC before they can set out when age groups might expect to get their vaccine. Also interestingly says that the “HSE recommendation for vaccine use was on the basis that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine would be used through age groups of 35+”

Did anyone hear the press conference? Other media reports suggesting earlier in the week that they were pushing for 45+. First I have heard of 35+.

I hope that’s true!

revelman

revelman wrote: »

Richard Chambers on Twitter reporting from a press conference that Paul Reid is saying that they are waiting for “clarity” from NIAC before they can set out when age groups might expect to get their vaccine. Also interestingly says that the “HSE recommendation for vaccine use was on the basis that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine would be used through age groups of 35+”

Did anyone hear the press conference? Other media reports suggesting earlier in the week that they were pushing for 45+. First I have heard of 35+.

That makes absolutely no sense seeing as the incidence rate for J&J is highest in women in their 30s. How do they justify this?

SusanC10

revelman wrote: »

Richard Chambers on Twitter reporting from a press conference that Paul Reid is saying that they are waiting for “clarity” from NIAC before they can set out when age groups might expect to get their vaccine. Also interestingly says that the “HSE recommendation for vaccine use was on the basis that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine would be used through age groups of 35+”

Did anyone hear the press conference? Other media reports suggesting earlier in the week that they were pushing for 45+. First I have heard of 35+.

Are they just talking about J&J or AZ too ?

cameramonkey

Signed up on Friday, got the txt today, being pfizered at Lansdowne Road on Saturday at 5.30. Still cannot call it the Aviva.

Wolf359f

revelman wrote: »

Richard Chambers on Twitter reporting from a press conference that Paul Reid is saying that they are waiting for “clarity” from NIAC before they can set out when age groups might expect to get their vaccine. Also interestingly says that the “HSE recommendation for vaccine use was on the basis that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine would be used through age groups of 35+”

Did anyone hear the press conference? Other media reports suggesting earlier in the week that they were pushing for 45+. First I have heard of 35+.

I was watching it and I'm convinced I heard 45+
35-39, especially for J&J in women would be far too risky for NIAC to approve.

Bubbaclaus

Paul Reid said 1.971m doses done up to yesterday evening, so around 48k for Wednesday then?

TheDoctor

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Paul Reid said 1.971m doses done up to yesterday evening, so around 48k for Wednesday then?

1.923 done up to COB Tues.

So yeah about 48k done on Wednesday so.