Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

odyssey06

Cork2021 wrote: »

Hi everyone let’s start listening to this architect that’s knows so much about Covid! What a gombeen!! You’ve the likes of Staines et all liking her tweets then!

https://twitter.com/orla_hegarty/status/1381900726214008833?s=21

Well we could have done with this focus on ventilation last year, and in the long run if it would help with respiratory infections in general. But right now main focus needs to be on vaccines.

dominatinMC

Micky 32 wrote: »

And these 2 gombeens too :pac::

https://twitter.com/jrd0000/status/1381895336256475140?s=21

And he is given the platform by our state broadcaster, who some insist are not pushing a negative agenda??

namloc1980

When will we know more about the revised vaccine rollout plan?

Tacitus Kilgore

dominatinMC wrote: »

And he is given the platform by our state broadcaster, who some insist are not pushing a negative agenda??

this non stop rabbling about RTE is tedious as fuck to read through, can you not go start a thread to give out about rte? its your only input here - to drab on about rte.

sd1999

namloc1980 wrote: »

When will we know more about the revised vaccine rollout plan?

Sometime later today, I'd imagine it'll be during the daily briefing.

Turtwig

Cork2021 wrote: »

Hi everyone let’s start listening to this architect that’s knows so much about Covid! What a gombeen!! You’ve the likes of Staines et all liking her tweets then!

https://twitter.com/orla_hegarty/status/1381900726214008833?s=21

Building architecture and codes have been influenced in the past by diseases. I wouldn't be so dismissive of architects providing opinions on features of buildings in a post covid world.

Gombeen is a bit much.

MerlinSouthDub

Micky 32 wrote: »

And these 2 gombeens too :pac::

https://twitter.com/jrd0000/status/1381895336256475140?s=21

That stuff about slane Castle and rugs is hilarious. I think possibly Sam McConkey has decided to start satirising himself?

ACitizenErased

Turtwig wrote: »

Building architecture and codes have been influenced in the past by diseases. I wouldn't be so dismissive of architects providing opinions on features of buildings in a post covid world.

Gombeen is a bit much.

Ah come off it, she's spouting ****e.

Charles Babbage

Cork2021 wrote: »

Hi everyone let’s start listening to this architect that’s knows so much about Covid! What a gombeen!! You’ve the likes of Staines et all liking her tweets then!

She doesn't have to an expert on Covid, there is 20 times more spread of Covid indoors than outdoors and ventilation is a big part of this. Better ventilation will reduce spread and it is an something that we can reasonably do.

It is ridiculous to describe her as a Gombeen.



In this thread people say things should be opened up and when people proposes measures to allow things open up then they sneer at them. :mad:

stephenjmcd

EMA expecting to make recommendation on J&J next week. Would suspect their waiting to see what way the FDA go

https://twitter.com/EMA_News/status/1382332071750860803?s=20

Le Bruise

Cork2021 wrote: »

Hi everyone let’s start listening to this architect that’s knows so much about Covid! What a gombeen!! You’ve the likes of Staines et all liking her tweets then!

https://twitter.com/orla_hegarty/status/1381900726214008833?s=21

All I got from reading through it is that I now really fancy a cheese sandwich!

Le Bruise

Micky 32 wrote: »

And these 2 gombeens too :pac::

https://twitter.com/jrd0000/status/1381895336256475140?s=21

Heard that in the background in work and nearly chocked on my coffee. 10,000 people at Slane, all sitting politely on picnic blankets 2 metres apart. Totally workable Sam!

Hmmzis

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ah come off it, she's spouting ****e.

The point about ventilation is very valid, with proper ventilation systems everywhere we would hardly be in this mess we're in at the moment. It's applicable to any pathogen transmissible via aerosols or small droplets.

ACitizenErased

Hmmzis wrote: »

The point about ventilation is very valid, with proper ventilation systems everywhere we would hardly be in this mess we're in at the moment. It's applicable to any pathogen transmissible via aerosols or small droplets.

Ventilation isn't going to deem vaccines useless. The point of the tweet is vaccines won't stop the virus spreading. That is rapidly becoming false.

ACitizenErased

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1382338951181176833?s=20

CapriciousOne

Denmark halting use of AZ altogether.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0414/1209784-coronavirus-global/

Hmmzis

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ventilation isn't going to deem vaccines useless. The point of the tweet is vaccines won't stop the virus spreading. That is rapidly becoming false.

Yes, that point is bogus, not arguing about that. Just saying that the ventilation point is valid and ventilation systems should be designed with disease control in mind.

Vicxas

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1382338951181176833?s=20

How does that pan out in terms of vaccines delivered going forward does anyone know?

Turtwig

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ventilation isn't going to deem vaccines useless. The point of the tweet is vaccines won't stop the virus spreading. That is rapidly becoming false.

"vaccination alone won't prevent"
and "vaccines in parallel with" do not appear to be a tone or choice of words used if you were saying vaccines were useless.

Where has she said vaccines are useless??

To me at least you are grossly misrepresenting her position. It's a bit more nuanced than you imply. Certainly not spouting sh1te.

hmmm

Turtwig wrote: »

Building architecture and codes have been influenced in the past by diseases. I wouldn't be so dismissive of architects providing opinions on features of buildings in a post covid world.

Gombeen is a bit much.

She has been the only prominent commentator pushing for better ventilation, which I'm sure in hindsight will have turned out to be far more important than the "2 metre" rule.

Ashbourne hoop

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Nice to see that we'll have an updated plan so quickly.

Might be partly down to the good weather but with all the good news today I feel significantly more optimistic than I did this time yesterday

Stay off the journal facebook page so, it's draining over there.

PhilOssophy

hmmm wrote: »

She has been the only prominent commentator pushing for better ventilation, which I'm sure in hindsight will have turned out to be far more important than the "2 metre" rule.

Didn't read the article, but "sick building syndrome" has been known about for years, and people have regularly researched solutions to fix it.

Turtwig

hmmm wrote: »

She has been the only prominent commentator pushing for better ventilation, which I'm sure in hindsight will have turned out to be far more important than the "2 metre" rule.

If nothing else I hope this pandemic forces another rethink of building design. In particular hospitals, the standard ward is way too prone to cross infections.

lucernarian

Hmmzis wrote: »

The point about ventilation is very valid, with proper ventilation systems everywhere we would hardly be in this mess we're in at the moment. It's applicable to any pathogen transmissible via aerosols or small droplets.

In the context of ending covid, when we have highly effective vaccines being made in the billions, it's a bit much to take that seriously. Hindsight is great, but also claiming that the vaccines are not enough to prevent the spread of covid is borderline misinformation.

titan18

With the expected volume of just Pfizer and Moderna, anyone any idea what point we'd be moving on to group 7 and then general age groups?

lucernarian

hmmm wrote: »

She has been the only prominent commentator pushing for better ventilation, which I'm sure in hindsight will have turned out to be far more important than the "2 metre" rule.

There's a fundamental problem with ventilation, in that the simple methods directly undermine energy efficiency. solutions that filter recycled air, be it UV, ozone based solutions, HEPA etc are more realistic.

Lumen

lucernarian wrote: »

There's a fundamental problem with ventilation, in that the simple methods directly undermine energy efficiency. solutions that filter recycled air, be it UV, ozone based solutions, HEPA etc are more realistic.

I've been told that single room MHRV is quite common in nursing homes. Works wherever you have an external wall. A higher efficiency alternative to opening a window!

Doctor Jimbob

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Stay off the journal facebook page so, it's draining over there.

I wouldn't dream of going near it in the first place.

vienne86

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Thank you .

I'm in the same boat....found this article useful.

rm212

https://twitter.com/jhamacek/status/1382305021761572864

Denmark has announced that it is suspending vaccination with AstraZeneca. I instructed the Ambassador of the Czech Republic in Copenhagen to contact the Danish authorities immediately and to announce the Czech Republic's interest in purchasing all AstraZeneca vaccines from Denmark.

Czech Republic have already made contact with Denmark in an attempt to buy their doses of AZ (if you open the tweet, you can translate it).