Minnesota officer shoots dead another innocent black victim

10000maniacs

They really can't help themselves killing black people can they?

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/12/us/brooklyn-center-minnesota-police-shooting/index.html

shtpEdthePlum

10000maniacs wrote: »

There really can't help themselves killing black people can they?

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/12/us/brooklyn-center-minnesota-police-shooting/index.html

The demonstrators were met with absolute brutality from the outset.

Nozebleed

why didnt he just comply with the officer?

10000maniacs

Nozebleed wrote: »

why didnt he just comply with the officer?

So it's the death penalty now for disagreeing with an officer? There are a lot of psychos in police uniform in Minnesota.

Nozebleed

wouldnt have happened if he just stood there explaining himself. would it?

TomSweeney

10000maniacs wrote: »

They really can't help themselves killing black people can they?

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/12/us/brooklyn-center-minnesota-police-shooting/index.html

Indeed, like the innocent noble poet George Floyd, another upstanding citizen murdered just for being black.

Silentcorner

10000maniacs wrote: »

So it's the death penalty now for disagreeing with an officer? There are a lot of psychos in police uniform in Minnesota.

You seem well reasoned.

Why are you so emotionally attached to an incident in an American city...

Gatling

Seems to more a tragic accidental shooting ,he told his mother on the phone he was stopped for having air freshener hanging on his rear view , makes no sense at all .

Unlike the soldier video doing the rounds

10000maniacs

Nozebleed wrote: »

wouldnt have happened if he just stood there explaining himself. would it?

Death penalty for disagreeing with an officer = psychotic murderous thuggery.

Chris Rock has some good advice.

https://youtu.be/uj0mtxXEGE8

10000maniacs

Silentcorner wrote: »

You seem well reasoned.

Why are you so emotionally attached to an incident in an American city...

What's that got to do with anything?

PokeHerKing

Nozebleed wrote: »

wouldnt have happened if he just stood there explaining himself. would it?

It still might have , they kill you even when you're cuffed and lying prone on the ground.

He definitely should not be trying to leave the scene against an officers instruction though.

In a normal society that still wouldn't merit getting shot but the US is an asylum and the police are as militant as theyre terrified of getting shot themselves. Which leads to these excessive responses.

RobbingBandit

Warrant out on the man why don't the cops just go out and arrest anyone with an outstanding warrant rather than run their id/plates during a random encounter American law enforcement rules are very strange.

RobbingBandit

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Warrant out on the man why don't the cops just go out and arrest anyone with an outstanding warrant rather than run their id/plates during a random encounter American law enforcement rules are very strange.

Because there are millions upon millions of warrants. One crime can create a load of different warrants for missing court dates, failure to pay fines can lead to bench warrants and a load of other nonsense.

Nozebleed

PokeHerKing wrote: »

It still might have , they kill you even when you're cuffed and lying prone on the ground.

He definitely should not be trying to leave the scene against an officers instruction though.

In a normal society that still wouldn't merit getting shot but the US is an asylum and the police are as militant as theyre terrified of getting shot themselves. Which leads to these excessive responses.

i her ya..but what normal person tries to abscond from 3 cops when they are clearly identifiable. this guy got himelf killed. police officer drew the wrong firearm..im sure that can happen in the heat of the moment...whcih was caused by the driver himself. and now he's dead.

BanditLuke

If he'd been white you'd be hearing absolutely zip about it. Black people are more likely to commit crime in the United States that's just fact that stats testify to so they are more likely to be involved with confrontations with police officers also.

Ckendrick

It’s unfathomable. If I’m a police officer and you go to reach back into/get back into your car when I’ve made it abundantly clear that I don’t want you to, then I’m going to presume that your reaching for a gun with a view to shooting me.
I mean, why else would you fail to follow my instructions like that?!?
So... I’m going to shoot you before you get a chance to shoot me first. There is absolutely no reason for me to stand there and allow you to shoot me.
Is there?

0ph0rce0

Nozebleed wrote: »

i her ya..but what normal person tries to abscond from 3 cops when they are clearly identifiable. this guy got himelf killed. police officer drew the wrong firearm..im sure that can happen in the heat of the moment...whcih was caused by the driver himself. and now he's dead.

You let one cop away with this "mistake" you'll have every trigger happy cop just shout taser, taser, taser and shoot.

America really is a ****hole.

10000maniacs

Nozebleed wrote: »

i her ya..but what normal person tries to abscond from 3 cops when they are clearly identifiable. this guy got himelf killed. police officer drew the wrong firearm..im sure that can happen in the heat of the moment...whcih was caused by the driver himself. and now he's dead.

The old "I drew the wrong firearm" excuse. Maybe it just might work for a white cop.

Kermit.de.frog

Ckendrick wrote: »

It’s unfathomable. If I’m a police officer and you go to reach back into/get back into your car when I’ve made it abundantly clear that I don’t want you to, then I’m going to presume that your reaching for a gun with a view to shooting me.
I mean, why else would you fail to follow my instructions like that?!?
So... I’m going to shoot you before you get a chance to shoot me first. There is absolutely no reason for me to stand there and allow you to shoot me.
Is there?

Now, now you are in danger of introducing real world nuance which by and large is unwelcome in most cases like this. The individual also had outstanding warrants. Sounds like one to be trusted with not having a weapon alright.


No one wants to hear about that though.

0ph0rce0

10000maniacs wrote: »

The old "I drew the wrong firearm" excuse. Maybe it just might work for a white cop.

:pac: Definitely bull**** alright.

Aren't tasers yellow or have some sort of yellow colouring on them for this reason.

Also with a quick search they are usually holstered on the opposite side to the firearm or lower down the leg sometimes on the front of the vest.


I find it very hard to believe he didn't know the difference.

pjohnson

Maybe a basic IQ test is needed for American police.

penny piper

Nozebleed wrote: »

i her ya..but what normal person tries to abscond from 3 cops when they are clearly identifiable. this guy got himelf killed. police officer drew the wrong firearm..im sure that can happen in the heat of the moment...whcih was caused by the driver himself. and now he's dead.

I agree with you ...but I think police officers are suppose to have a taser on one side of their body and the handgun on the other side...and I believe the taser gun is suppose to be lighter/marked what it is....if she was an experienced officer she should have known....

10000maniacs

Ckendrick wrote: »

It’s unfathomable. If I’m a police officer and you go to reach back into/get back into your car when I’ve made it abundantly clear that I don’t want you to, then I’m going to presume that your reaching for a gun with a view to shooting me.

So assumption number one when somebody is shuffling around in their car is they are reaching for a gun?
Load of old ****e!!

If you've seen some of the tasers the cops use it's an understandable mistake. Why in the **** they issue gun-shaped tasers to be carried beside a gun and to be reached at and grabbed by feel isn't understandable.

Nozebleed

Billy Mays wrote: »

He used his gun by accident

Some of these cops are really f*cking **** at their job

On the bright side it's one less black lad driving around with air freshners dangling out of his mirror

she! the officer was a woman

10000maniacs

Nozebleed wrote: »

the cop was a woman too...maybe she's a rabid feminist.

Nozebleed wrote: »

she! the officer was a woman

I have to ask for the second time in this thread, what has that got to do with anything?

Nozebleed

10000maniacs wrote: »

I have to ask for the second time in this thread, what has that got to do with anything?

whats the colour of the guys skin got to do with anything?

10000maniacs

Nozebleed wrote: »

whats the colour of the guys skin got to do with anything?

If you are really stuck on this, Ill draw you a Venn diagram.

10000maniacs

10000maniacs wrote: »

So assumption number one when somebody is shuffling around in their car is they are reaching for a gun?
Load of old ****e!!

Well in a heavily armed country that’s what cops would think.

Anything else going on in the world?

sligeach

Nozebleed wrote: »

whats the colour of the guys skin got to do with anything?

That's exactly what I was about to ask.

silverharp

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

:pac: Definitely bull**** alright.

Aren't tasers yellow or have some sort of yellow colouring on them for this reason.

Also with a quick search they are usually holstered on the opposite side to the firearm or lower down the leg sometimes on the front of the vest.


I find it very hard to believe he didn't know the difference.

"he"?

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1381660582231879690

Augme

How can you be so stupid that you pull a gun instead of a taser. But then again, these are American cops.

tayto lover

Very sad but clearly an accident.

10000maniacs

silverharp wrote: »

"he"?

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1381660582231879690

She got what she was holding mixed up with a tazer? Load of bull.

Fathom

No comment.

10000maniacs

This is a tazer

silverharp

10000maniacs wrote: »

She got what she was holding mixed up with a tazer? Load of bull.

I dont believe people that mix up the diesel pump and the petrol one yet it happens :pac:

10000maniacs

silverharp wrote: »

I dont believe people that mix up the diesel pump and the petrol one yet it happens :pac:

And Victor Meldrew got a telephone mixed up with a puppy, so I see your point.

Gatling

10000maniacs wrote: »

And Victor Meldrew got a telephone mixed up with a puppy, so I see your point.

If it wasn't an accident explain why the officer only fired one round ....

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you've seen some of the tasers the cops use it's an understandable mistake. Why in the **** they issue gun-shaped tasers to be carried beside a gun and to be reached at and grabbed by feel isn't understandable.

It's not supposed to be near the gun, Correct training would be the gun on your dominant side and the tazer on the other side so there is no mix up.

10000maniacs

Gatling wrote: »

If it wasn't an accident explain why the officer only fired one round ....

Maybe, that's for a court to decide, but she did herself no favours with that tazer cock and bull story.

LessOutragePlz

10000maniacs wrote: »

She got what she was holding mixed up with a tazer? Load of bull.

So her shouting "Tazer, Tazer, Tazer" was all part of an act right :rolleyes: .

You seem to have already made your mind up about the whole thing already.

It was cold blooded murder right?

Nozebleed

sligeach wrote: »

That's exactly what I was about to ask.

10000maniacs wrote: »

Maybe, that's for a court to decide, but she did herself no favours with that tazer cock and bull story.

dont know..guy in the car done himself no favours attempting to flee.....for no appearent reason. very very stupid.

AMKC

She could have just shot him in the leg or arm instead of killing him. But ye another sad story in America in loving the cops. They never learn. The only way to solve this is to only have highly trained detectives have guns and take the guns off the rest of them. Let them have tasers and pepper spray and it will be less likely to happen again.

walshb

10000maniacs wrote: »

So assumption number one when somebody is shuffling around in their car is they are reaching for a gun?
Load of old ****e!!

In America, yes!

In America, where the person stopped has history, hell yes!

10000maniacs

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

So her shouting "Tazer, Tazer, Tazer" was all part of an act right :rolleyes: .

You seem to have already made your mind up about the whole thing already.

It was cold blooded murder right?

If someone was standing over me with a revolver shouting "tazer tazer tazer", the first thing I would do would put my foot on the accelerator and get the fcuk out of there. Self preservation and all that.

Gatling

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

So her shouting "Tazer, Tazer, Tazer" was all part of an act right :rolleyes: .

You seem to have already made your mind up about the whole thing already.

It was cold blooded murder right?

The picture shows she kept her finger off the trigger initially might be hard to prove anything but accident discharge ,
Chance's are muscle memory caused her to automatically draw her pistol rather than the taser ,

silverharp

Nozebleed wrote: »

dont know..guy in the car done himself no favours attempting to flee.....for no appearent reason. very very stupid.

there was a warrant out for him on illegal gun charges , but yeah dumb as a lug hammer

insert name here 123

Also in USA..

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/multiple-people-shot-at-high-school-in-knoxville-us-40306438.html

Ckendrick

10000maniacs wrote: »

So assumption number one when somebody is shuffling around in their car is they are reaching for a gun?
Load of old ****e!!

Well...what is the person reaching for? In the middle of being arrested, why do you suddenly jerk away from the police officer and try to get into the car??