Declan Ganley challenging ban on attending mass

AMKC

He is complaining he could not go to church. He is one selfish fuc-k. Imagine if this ejit ran the Country we would be like Sweden is it not on lockdown at all and more people than needs to be doing all because of this idiots greed.

DelaneyIn

What?

Ckendrick

AMKC wrote: »

He is complaining he could not go to church. He is one selfish fuc-k. Imagine if this ejit ran the Country we would be like Sweden is it not on lockdown at all and more people than needs to be doing all because of this idiots greed.

Lots of people are complaining about lots of the restrictions. Why shouldn’t Declan Ganley be allowed to complain?

Kivaro

AMKC wrote: »

He is complaining he could not go to church. He is one selfish fuc-k. Imagine if this ejit ran the Country we would be like Sweden is it not on lockdown at all and more people than needs to be doing all because of this idiots greed.

Dude. Chill.

AMKC

Ckendrick wrote: »

Lots of people are complaining about lots of the restrictions. Why shouldn’t Declan Ganley be allowed to complain?

Saying he can not leave his home to attend mass lol. No one is stopping him from leaving his home but there is currently no mass anyway so he is complaining about nothing the big whingebag. He is like an old granny.

Zebra3

AMKC wrote: »

He is complaining he could not go to church.

I pity him. Imagine what he's missing.

millie35

AMKC wrote: »

Saying he can not leave his home to attend mass lol. No one is stopping him from leaving his home but there is currently no mass anyway so he is complaining about nothing the big whingebag. He is like an old granny.

Leave us old grannies out of it!

suicide_circus

Churches etc are very important to some people

KaneToad

AMKC wrote: »

Saying he can not leave his home to attend mass lol. No one is stopping him from leaving his home but there is currently no mass anyway so he is complaining about nothing the big whingebag. He is like an old granny.

Some people like going to church. Some people like going to the pub. I'm not bothered by either. Each to their own...

rostalof

suicide_circus wrote: »

Churches etc are very important to some people

That's true. Live gigs, live sports and pubs are very important to even more people. But people won't be allowed attend them in large numbers anytime soon....

osarusan

No less or more of a whine than plenty of others tbh.

suicide_circus

We're all entitled to argue for the return of our liberties

aren't we?

HeidiHeidi

osarusan wrote: »

No less or more of a whine than plenty of others tbh.

This!

RichT

Well Jealous OP!

You're obviously posting from a Beer Garden in The UK.

Mad_maxx

AMKC wrote: »

He is complaining he could not go to church. He is one selfish fuc-k. Imagine if this ejit ran the Country we would be like Sweden is it not on lockdown at all and more people than needs to be doing all because of this idiots greed.

He's 100% right to challenge the government on this

Beechwoodspark

How dare you OP

Declan Ganley has as much a right as anyone else to challenge the current restrictions and fair play to him

I know plenty people who are VERY affected over not being able to attend church

An extremely sound 21 Filipino lad And his girlfriend. Church is “their safe space”
An elderly lady from kerry background - the church is her rock
A very sound 30 something fireman I know. His faith is so important to him.

Fair play to Ganley to take the challenge

yosser hughes

AMKC wrote: »

He is complaining he could not go to church. He is one selfish fuc-k. Imagine if this ejit ran the Country we would be like Sweden is it not on lockdown at all and more people than needs to be doing all because of this idiots greed.

What's greed got to do with it?

He's entitled to his opinion.

Beechwoodspark

OP I have seen stuff online about various dublin mosques like the south circular road being open throughout the pandemic and large congregations gathering closely

What’s your opinion on this?

My own view If true it makes an absolute mockery of the rules.

gormdubhgorm

AMKC wrote: »

He is complaining he could not go to church. He is one selfish fuc-k. Imagine if this ejit ran the Country we would be like Sweden is it not on lockdown at all and more people than needs to be doing all because of this idiots greed.

Isn't God supposed to be all around us? Even in this thread! So the point is moot?

Fair play to Declan Ganley I say... madness that religious worship is banned, no reason why a small number of people can't sit in what are often massive buildings for 25 mins or so.

gormdubhgorm

Lizbeth Wet Egg wrote: »

Fair play to Declan Ganley I say... madness that religious worship is banned, no reason why a small number of people can't sit in what are often massive buildings for 25 mins or so.

Donegalforever

AMKC wrote: »

He is complaining he could not go to church. He is one selfish fuc-k. Imagine if this ejit ran the Country we would be like Sweden is it not on lockdown at all and more people than needs to be doing all because of this idiots greed.

Your not bad at complaining yourself!

beggars_bush

If god truly is omnipotent, then it doesn't matter where you worship him/her

beggars_bush

beggars_bush wrote: »

If god truly is omnipotent, then it doesn't matter where you worship him/her

This is what the Scottish courts had to say on the matter in a similar case there:

Lord Braid stated in his decision:”I have concluded that the Regulations … constitute a disproportionate interference with the Article 9 right of the petitioners and others. As such, they are beyond the legislative competence of the respondents.”

He added: “ The Regulations are also a disproportionate interference with the petitioners’ and additional party’s constitutional rights.”

He also rejected the government’s argument that congregations could simply worship online.

"While some people may derive some benefit from being able to observe on-line services, it is undeniable that certain aspects of certain faiths simply cannot take place, at all, under the current legislative regime," he said.

“It is impossible to measure the effect of those restrictions on those who hold religious beliefs. It goes beyond mere loss of companionship and an inability to attend a lunch club.

"The fact that the regulations are backed by criminal sanctions is also a relevant consideration...

...He said the government had “paid lip service” to Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which states: “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and observance.”

Lord Braid said there was “no evidence that they [the government] have accorded it the importance which such a fundamental right deserves.”

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...lawful-3176715

Kermit.de.frog

Step away from the Alcohol OP, baby steps, you can do this, we can help you

Beechwoodspark

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

OP I have seen stuff online about various dublin mosques like the south circular road being open throughout the pandemic and large congregations gathering closely

What’s your opinion on this?

My own view If true it makes an absolute mockery of the rules.

It's not true.
And you're making it up

gormdubhgorm

I wonder why the OP is so annoyed at Ganley I honestly don't get the rage. Is it just s/he does not like him?

whisky_galore

beggars_bush wrote: »

If god truly is omnipotent, then it doesn't matter where you worship him/her

Jesus never went to mass.

mcmoustache

Lizbeth Wet Egg wrote: »

Fair play to Declan Ganley I say... madness that religious worship is banned, no reason why a small number of people can't sit in what are often massive buildings for 25 mins or so.

Mad_maxx wrote: »

He's 100% right to challenge the government on this

These lockdowns have gone on for such a long time. People are missing out on the sort of socialisation that can keep them centered. They're feeling isolated. It's having a detrimental effect on their sanity. Without the social elements of life, they're losing sight of what's reasonable and what's stupid. That might go a long way to explaining those posts above.

Beechwoodspark

bubblypop wrote: »

It's not true.
And you're making it up

Google it. Lots of stuff online about it

blackvalley

Some worship at the altar of church .
Some worship at altar of Arthur Guinness .
So would expect him to champion the opening of both .
We are all in this together after all .;)