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FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

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    #662
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Floppybits wrote: »
    All it is is tinkering around at the edges to try quell the anger for a bit. They have no interest in stopping Vulture funds from buying up homes. If they did they would have acted sooner. There is also the possibility that FF do want to make the necessary changes but FG have them by the short and curly's and are telling them that if they make the changes they will make things very hard for them.


    Reports are already blowing this out of the water. Are they really taking people for fools and thinking they'll get away with it?


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    #663
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,364 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    CDarby wrote: »
    FG are "one of the two of them" I'm referring to, in the post you quoted.

    Oh I get you now.

    Who do you reckon will be the next government if FF and FG won't be part of it?


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    #664
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Reports are already blowing this out of the water. Are they really taking people for fools and thinking they'll get away with it?

    I’m starting to think that the Govt really doesn’t have a clue how angry people are at the minute.


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    #665
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394736250930802689

    Seems quite odd.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #666
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394736250930802689

    Seems quite odd.

    Nice win for SF, if they can land a blow with demonstrations and painting FG and FF as the shield for foreign landlords they could do some serious damage.

    After all the pressure last week I don't think his bill will be received how Darragh wanted it to.


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    #667
    piplip87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭piplip87


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394736250930802689

    Seems quite odd.

    Absolutely ridiculous by Chambers. So the SF housing policy that cannot work, due to the costs of building is introduced. If it works SF get the credit, if it doesn't the government get the blame.


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    #668
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,771 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    piplip87 wrote: »
    Absolutely ridiculous by Chambers. So the SF housing policy that cannot work, due to the costs of building is introduced. If it works SF get the credit, if it doesn't the government get the blame.

    Does the motion mean anything, or is it just the usual hot air?


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    #669
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Govt of chaos and confusion continues.....

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394759937662799885?s=19



    FF lads revolting now. Everyone knew this would happen, Martin is a spineless, power hungry wuss.

    https://twitter.com/unspeakable28/status/1394732823433596931?s=19


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    #670
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Govt plans savaged according to news reports and rightly so. As reported elsewhere a 2% stamp duty rate already is in force for purchases over €1,000,000 so it's an 8% increase.
    Take that new 10% rate on a portfolio which has a 5% yield and the stamp duty is paid off after 2 years.
    Everything else is tax free after that for the Reits.
    FFG still enabling Vultures and pushing down on young purchasers.


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    #671
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Isn't posting shinner/left supporting tweets here a bit like posting tweets from the Pope to support catholicism :D


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    #672
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Marine Layer wrote: »
    Isn't posting shinner/left supporting tweets here a bit like posting tweets from the Pope to support catholicism :D

    But, but SF deflection from the usual suspects.


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    #673
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    But, but SF deflection from the usual suspects.

    How is that deflection,its a valid point and it refers to government criticism
    Did you not like it?
    On topic :)


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    #674
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Pat Kenny knocking the FFG housing plan out of the park and illustrating how easily it will be for developers and vultures to circumvent this package.


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    #675
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,641 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Pat Kenny knocking the FFG housing plan out of the park and illustrating how easily it will be for developers and vultures to circumvent this package.

    You can tell FG do not want to make any changes to this. All they are doing now is tinkering at the edges, if even that, and that is only to try quell the anger. We are seeing now what FG and FF are really about.


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    #676
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Floppybits wrote: »
    You can tell FG do not want to make any changes to this. All they are doing now is tinkering at the edges, if even that, and that is only to try quell the anger. We are seeing now what FG and FF are really about.



    I hope those who are affected take heed.


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    #677
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,641 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    I hope those who are affected take heed.

    The focus needs to be kept on the issue. The government have another couple of years to go so I can see them throwing out a few crumbs to people coming up to the election, the usual tactic.


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    #678
    Oymyakon
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Oymyakon


    I'm 26 and genuinely feel hopeless about the prospect of having my own home in the next 10 years. I understand covid has affected construction but the lack of urgency in the government's message about delivering housing on public land has me looking for jobs in Europe. I'd rather rent at a more affordable rate for the next 10 years if I'm going to be renting at all.


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    #679
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,324 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Oymyakon wrote: »
    I'm 26 and genuinely feel hopeless about the prospect of having my own home in the next 10 years. I understand covid has affected construction but the lack of urgency in the government's message about delivering housing on public land has me looking for jobs in Europe. I'd rather rent at a more affordable rate for the next 10 years if I'm going to be renting at all.

    this is all coming to a head now, our governments current and past, have all largely failed to address this, major change has to come, and i suspect it will, your generation have had enough, and to be honest, so to have many older generations, even those indirectly effected. please dont give up, we ll all need to work together to try resolve this critical issue


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    #680
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Oymyakon wrote: »
    I'm 26 and genuinely feel hopeless about the prospect of having my own home in the next 10 years. I understand covid has affected construction but the lack of urgency in the government's message about delivering housing on public land has me looking for jobs in Europe. I'd rather rent at a more affordable rate for the next 10 years if I'm going to be renting at all.

    And nothing for renters in this latest plan. I feel sorry for you, as I've two daughters in similar position as yourself.


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    #681
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,504 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Heard MM telling Mary Lou in the Dáil that SF have objected to 16 housing developments out of 21 in Dublin.

    Strange one I thought but they seem to have all the answers and people believe them so let's see what they come up with.

    SF are utterly shameless when it comes to speaking out of both sides of their mouth

    They block development all of the time and five minutes later stamp their feet about how the government "isn't doing anything about the housing shortage "


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    #682
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    SF are utterly shameless when it comes to speaking out of both sides of their mouth

    They block development all of the time and five minutes later stamp their feet about how the government "isn't doing anything about the housing shortage "

    Just on that ..... Didn't hear it myself, but if this is true......


    https://twitter.com/olivercallan/status/1394944034255298560?s=19


    Do the gombeens in cabinet literally draw up their plans using crayons?


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    #683
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,641 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Just on that ..... Didn't hear it myself, but if this is true......


    https://twitter.com/olivercallan/status/1394944034255298560?s=19


    Do the gombeens in cabinet literally draw up their plans using crayons?

    Heard it there on Claire Byrnes show and has been ignored.


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    #684
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Heard it there on Claire Byrnes show and has been ignored.

    It's a good show this morning.

    They are saying passing the SF motion yesterday was 'human error'.

    The housing issue is causing massive damage to FFG. It will be a major failure point at the next election no matter what they do to repair it now. They are more or less admitting that they would have continued allowing cuckoo funds to run riot until the public and opposition reacted.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #685
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Just on that ..... Didn't hear it myself, but if this is true......

    https://twitter.com/olivercallan/status/1394944034255298560?s=19

    Do the gombeens in cabinet literally draw up their plans using crayons?

    I imagine there will be more on that revelation today.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #686
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,771 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Oymyakon wrote: »
    I'm 26 and genuinely feel hopeless about the prospect of having my own home in the next 10 years. I understand covid has affected construction but the lack of urgency in the government's message about delivering housing on public land has me looking for jobs in Europe. I'd rather rent at a more affordable rate for the next 10 years if I'm going to be renting at all.

    Have you looked at the cost of rental in any part of Europe?

    If you want to live in a capital city like Dublin, and within reasonable commuting distance, you will pay at least the same as Dublin.


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    #687
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Have you looked at the cost of rental in any part of Europe?

    If you want to live in a capital city like Dublin, and within reasonable commuting distance, you will pay at least the same as Dublin.


    In other words, suck it up. Straight from the FFG playbook.


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    #688
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Just on that ..... Didn't hear it myself, but if this is true......


    https://twitter.com/olivercallan/status/1394944034255298560?s=19


    Do the gombeens in cabinet literally draw up their plans using crayons?

    SF led Dublin city council bought 260 homes in 2018
    Pot kettle :)


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    #689
    BASHIR
    Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭BASHIR


    Marine Layer wrote: »
    SF led Dublin city council bought 260 homes in 2018
    Pot kettle :)

    RBoyd Barret is PBP fyi


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    #690
    timmyntc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Marine Layer wrote: »
    SF led Dublin city council bought 260 homes in 2018
    Pot kettle :)

    Bbbut the shinners!

    The tweet is referring to institutional investors buying houses, not local authorities.

    Also councillors do not get a massive say in what houses the council purchases or leases. The council staff are semi-autonomous and IIRC they do not need permission from councillors to do these things.


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    #691
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    timmyntc wrote: »
    Bbbut the shinners!

    The tweet is referring to institutional investors buying houses, not local authorities.

    Also councillors do not get a massive say in what houses the council purchases or leases. The council staff are semi-autonomous and IIRC they do not need permission from councillors to do these things.

    Its not but but the shinners
    The shinners are giving out about government spending money buying homes that people want,yet they're happy to buy them themselves pushing first time buyers out (instead of building new ones)
    Its typical both sides of mouths territory


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