FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

FrancieBrady

skimpydoo wrote: »

Well take a look at this.

'It's crazy': Pharmacists say phones ringing constantly after Janssen jab announcement

https://jrnl.ie/5483899

But they've been doing all 'last week' how ever is it a 'suprise'?

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

But they've been doing all 'last week' how ever is it a 'suprise'?

For the unvaccinated over 50’s.

No surprise that any of those yet to be vaccinated wouldn’t be rushing to book.

Thankfully, the younger, unvaccinated are only too willing to book their vaccination.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

For the unvaccinated over 50’s.

No surprise that any of those yet to be vaccinated wouldn’t be rushing to book.

Thankfully, the younger, unvaccinated are only too willing to book their vaccination.

In answer to this:

Well he made an announcement on the radio this morning about younger people being able to go the Pharmacies to get a vaccine but it seems from the reports coming in that the Pharamacies weren't told of this and now they are being bombarded with calls from people looking for information on this and they are in the dark on it.

YOU answered thus:

Strange. My local pharmacy is well organised and has been taking bookings for the last week or so. Absolutely no problems.

You are now trying to spin your way out of saying you were bluffing/lying.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

In answer to this:



YOU answered thus:




You are now trying to spin your way out of saying you were bluffing/lying.

I feel your pain, Frankie. The damned government is doing a great job and it hurts, doesn’t it?!

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

I feel your pain, Frankie. The damned government is doing a great job and it hurts, doesn’t it?!

If they are doing such a great job why did you need to blunderbuss your way in to bluff/lie on their behalf?

All you need to do is back up what you said and show your local pharmacy offering this 'a week' ago.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If they are doing such a great job why did you need to blunderbuss your way in to bluff/lie on their behalf?

All you need to do is back up what you said and show your local pharmacy offering this 'a week' ago.

Poor Frankie.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Poor Frankie.

No credibility Maryanne, that's the issue here. You will actually lie/bluff in an attempt (failed) to make the government look good.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No credibility Maryanne, that's the issue here. You will actually lie/bluff in an attempt (failed) to make the government look good.

Soz, Frankie. No need to attempt to make the government look good! They are go. They’re still in power and will be for another few years. Get used to it. You will appreciate it in time.

FrancieBrady

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Soz, Frankie. No need to attempt to make the government look good! They are go. They’re still in power and will be for another few years. Get used to it. You will appreciate it in time.

You bluffed/lied to do it Maryanne.

Bottomline I'm afraid.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You bluffed/lied to do it Maryanne.

Bottomline I'm afraid.

I don’t lie.


Don’t be afraid. We’re on the up. Hang on to our coattails. We’ll take care of you.

skimpydoo

Deleted User wrote: »

Wowsers. Delighted to see the yoot of today being so responsible.

Selective reading again. How did you miss all this at the start of the article:

Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly made the announcement earlier today on RTɒs Morning Ireland programme. However, this was the first many pharmacists had heard of the new vaccine rollout development.

The Journal spoke to 12 pharmacies today, all of whom confirmed that the announcement this morning had been the first time they had heard official confirmation they were to begin administering the Janssen vaccine to those under 34.

All pharmacies had also spent most of their morning answering calls and speaking to customers about the vaccine and registration.

“We had to turn off the phones today, which means our vulnerable customers can’t get through to us because of everyone ringing in because of the vaccine,” said one pharmacist from Rathmines. “So, you know, we’re running blind at the minute.

“I was trying to contact someone and it took me ten minutes before I could get a free phone call. I had to head out and use my own phone in the end.
“And they’d had no discussion with us or anything.”

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

Well take a look at this.

'It's crazy': Pharmacists say phones ringing constantly after Janssen jab announcement

https://jrnl.ie/5483899

The pharmacy I linked to had their online tool ready for 18yr olds this morning
As far as I know it was the pharmacy union that negotiated the change
So no surprises
I'd say its the non participating chemists that got a shock mainly today as every mammy under the sun had their 18 to 34 year olds (yes 34 Yr olds ) ringing or visiting the chemist

skimpydoo

Marine Layer wrote: »

The pharmacy I linked to had their online tool ready for 18yr olds this morning
As far as I know it was the pharmacy union that negotiated the change
So no surprises
I'd say its the non participating chemists that got a shock mainly today as every mammy under the son had their 18 to 34 year old (yes 34 Yr olds ) ringing or visiting the chemist

Actually it's pharmacies who just found out they were participating,

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

Actually it's pharmacies who just found out they were participating,

Eh?

skimpydoo

Marine Layer wrote: »

Eh?

The Journal spoke to 12 pharmacies today, all of whom confirmed that the announcement this morning had been the first time they had heard official confirmation they were to begin administering the Janssen vaccine to those under 34.

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

Selective reading again. How did you miss all this at the start of the article:

Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly made the announcement earlier today on RTɒs Morning Ireland programme. However, this was the first many pharmacists had heard of the new vaccine rollout development.

The Journal spoke to 12 pharmacies today, all of whom confirmed that the announcement this morning had been the first time they had heard official confirmation they were to begin administering the Janssen vaccine to those under 34.

All pharmacies had also spent most of their morning answering calls and speaking to customers about the vaccine and registration.

“We had to turn off the phones today, which means our vulnerable customers can’t get through to us because of everyone ringing in because of the vaccine,” said one pharmacist from Rathmines. “So, you know, we’re running blind at the minute.

“I was trying to contact someone and it took me ten minutes before I could get a free phone call. I had to head out and use my own phone in the end.
“And they’d had no discussion with us or anything.”

Maybe The Journal should have asked pharmacists who had actually prepared for the job!

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

The Journal spoke to 12 pharmacies today, all of whom confirmed that the announcement this morning had been the first time they had heard official confirmation they were to begin administering the Janssen vaccine to those under 34.

So……They DID know that it was in the pipeline. Just weren’t prepared. Tough.

skimpydoo

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe The Journal should have asked pharmacists who had actually prepared for the job!

Is that the best you can come up with?

They should have been told before it was broadcast on the airwaves. You can't prepare when you are not kept in the loop.

skimpydoo

Deleted User wrote: »

So……They DID know that it was in the pipeline. Just weren’t prepared. Tough.

They probably knew it was coming but thats all. I knew it was coming down the line but I had no further info on what vaccines would be used and when it would start.

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

The Journal spoke to 12 pharmacies today, all of whom confirmed that the announcement this morning had been the first time they had heard official confirmation they were to begin administering the Janssen vaccine to those under 34.

Well that's their unions fault
I rang all 3 of my local ones this morning and all three were taking names
One directed me online
I wonder how many the journal contacted before they found their 12 :rolleyes:
Honestly Good news stories like this and negative crap splattered about
Most important thing today is jabs are accelerating big time now

skimpydoo

Deleted User wrote: »

So……They DID know that it was in the pipeline. Just weren’t prepared. Tough.

More from the article:

At another pharmacy, a worker said that they are taking names to vaccinate the new age groups, but can’t do anything for those under 50 yet as they are still waiting HSE guidance.

One pharmacist in Dublin City centre said that he had heard some talk about this being a possibility during the week, but this was the first he had heard about official confirmation.

He has since applied to the HSE to order more of the Janssen jab into his business.

“It was alright before now because most of the over 50s are vaccinated anyway,” he said, “but we have quite a young demographic around us here.”

Another pharmacist from a different pharmacy in the South Dublin area said: “My phone is so bad, I can barely do my normal day’s work.

“It wasn’t communicated. The HSE and government kind of dumped it on pharmacies and didn’t communicate it properly. And a lot of pharmacies have waiting lists and they’ve no vaccines.

“It’s crazy, crazy!”

Another pharmacist contacted The Journal to say: “We only had 20 vaccines to give out because that was what we had leftover from the over 50′s and we had no communication from the HSE as to when or how many doses, if any, that we will be getting from them.

“We were totally thrown in the deep end here and only able to provide the information that we got from the news,” he said. “They haven’t even contacted us to tell us that we are getting more vaccines! It’s impossible!”

They are still waiting for a plan to be put in place over the weekend for Monday’s rollout.

skimpydoo

Marine Layer wrote: »

Well that's their unions fault
I rang all 3 of my local ones this morning and all three were taking names
One directed me online
I wonder how many the journal contacted before they found their 12 :rolleyes:
Honestly Good news stories like this and negative crap splattered about
Most important thing today is jabs are accelerating big time now

Jabs are accelerating is a good thing and I am not knocking that. I am knocking on how it was communicated.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

I don’t lie.

Explain how pharmacies where doing something for the last week that was only announced today for the 5th July then.


Was it a mistake? You were confused by the abysmal communications of the government or was it a lie to make the government look good?

It's one or the another.

Finty Lemon

Portugal and Spain are heading for lockdown.
Enjoy your holidays you dopes

skimpydoo

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Portugal and Spain are heading for lockdown.
Enjoy your holidays you dopes

Ryanair doing return flights for €14.99 each way and I guess they want you to have money for the various Covid tests you will be doing.

Finty Lemon

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Explain how pharmacies where doing something for the last week that was only announced today for the 5th July then.


Was it a mistake? You were confused by the abysmal communications of the government or was it a lie to make the government look good?

It's one or the another.

'Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly has announced an expansion of the vaccination roll-out programme to younger people.

It will see the 18-34 age group being able to 'opt in' for Janssen or AstraZeneca for earlier vaccination.

Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland programme, Mr Donnelly said this 'opt-in' system will run in parallel with the online portal registration, calling it a two-track approach in the vaccine roll-out.

From next Monday, 750 pharmacies can begin administering the Janssen vaccine to people in the 18-34 age groups, who have opted in.' This explains the change.

Govt have crafted a message that creates an urgency to get vaccinated among the cohort least likely to present. Kinda brilliant when you think about it.

FrancieBrady

Finty Lemon wrote: »

'Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly has announced an expansion of the vaccination roll-out programme to younger people.

It will see the 18-34 age group being able to 'opt in' for Janssen or AstraZeneca for earlier vaccination.

Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland programme, Mr Donnelly said this 'opt-in' system will run in parallel with the online portal registration, calling it a two-track approach in the vaccine roll-out.

From next Monday, 750 pharmacies can begin administering the Janssen vaccine to people in the 18-34 age groups, who have opted in.' This explains the change.

Govt have crafted a message that creates an urgency to get vaccinated among the cohort least likely to present. Kinda brilliant when you think about it.

And Maryanne said this has been running all last week without problems. She was asked to back that up but has declined.
She is either confused by government communications or bluffing/lying to make the government look good.

She can clear it all up by telling us which pharmacy was running this scheme 'all last week'.

skimpydoo

skimpydoo wrote: »

Jabs are accelerating is a good thing and I am not knocking that. I am knocking on how it was communicated.

A very Niche complaint

Finty Lemon

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And Maryanne said this has been running all last week without problems. She was asked to back that up but has declined.
She is either confused by government communications or bluffing/lying to make the government look good.

She can clear it all up by telling us which pharmacy was running this scheme 'all last week'.

Well done. You have outfoxed Mary Anne. A big win for you.

Finty Lemon

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Well done. You have outfoxed Mary Anne. A big win for you.

The FrancieBrady account is right about the Mary Anne account being wrong
Once is enough to say it though

FrancieBrady

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Well done. You have outfoxed Mary Anne. A big win for you.

Marine Layer wrote: »

The FrancieBrady account is right about the Mary Anne account being wrong
Once is enough to say it though

Cavalry arrives.

So you think it is ok to bluff/lie...ok, noted.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Cavalry arrives.

So you think it is ok to bluff/lie...ok, noted.

Hypocritical putting words into a mouth that weren't said
For an account too that gives out about that so much

Marine Layer

Marine Layer wrote: »

Hypocritical putting words into a mouth that weren't said
For an account too that gives out about that so much

Ahh, don’t be spoiling Frankie fun.

Ok, spoke with Sonny Jim. He gets his annual flu jab in our local pharmacy. He saw that they were taking bookings for unvaccinated over 50’s, so rang last Friday to ask if they might be doing the under 50’s at any time. They said that there was very little uptake in the over 50’s group and expected to be cleared to do the under 50’s in the coming weeks and did he want to put his name down, so he did.

No doubt Francie will be along shortly to pick holes/pour scorn on this and previous posts of mine!

Cluedo Monopoly

Stop Mary. It's embarassing.

Cluedo Monopoly

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Portugal and Spain are heading for lockdown.
Enjoy your holidays you dopes

You'll be throwing around made up numbers next

Finty Lemon

Speaking of bluff and lies, 'rent control will benefit tenents'
'Banning building investment funds from the market will improve housing supply' are two great lies/bluffs doing the rounds recently. I wish FFG would tackle that rubbish head on.

Triangle

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Cavalry arrives.

So you think it is ok to bluff/lie...ok, noted.

Bluffing, lieing is wrong, but supporting a political wing of a terrorist organisation is OK?

Seems to me that a lot of politicians bluff and lie - across the board. Not to many of them make bombs though.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Ahh, don’t be spoiling Frankie fun.

Ok, spoke with Sonny Jim. He gets his annual flu jab in our local pharmacy. He saw that they were taking bookings for unvaccinated over 50’s, so rang last Friday to ask if they might be doing the under 50’s at any time. They said that there was very little uptake in the over 50’s group and expected to be cleared to do the under 50’s in the coming weeks and did he want to put his name down, so he did.

No doubt Francie will be along shortly to pick holes/pour scorn on this and previous posts of mine!

No picking holes, I'll just leave that there in all it's magnificence.

FrancieBrady

Triangle wrote: »

Bluffing, lieing is wrong,

Glad we cleared that up. I agree.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Ahh, don’t be spoiling Frankie fun.

Ok, spoke with Sonny Jim. He gets his annual flu jab in our local pharmacy. He saw that they were taking bookings for unvaccinated over 50’s, so rang last Friday to ask if they might be doing the under 50’s at any time. They said that there was very little uptake in the over 50’s group and expected to be cleared to do the under 50’s in the coming weeks and did he want to put his name down, so he did.

No doubt Francie will be along shortly to pick holes/pour scorn on this and previous posts of mine!

Like something from a "Sir Norman Fry" sketch, just needed the "As far as I'm concerned, that is the end of the matter. Thank you.", and it would have been completed.

FrancieBrady

McMurphy wrote: »

Like something from a "Sir Norman Fry" sketch.

The circling of the wagons was familiar and funny too.

Marine Layer

Marine Layer wrote: »

Hypocritical putting words into a mouth that weren't said
For an account too that gives out about that so much

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Stop Mary. It's embarassing.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No picking holes, I'll just leave that there in all it's magnificence.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The circling of the wagons was familiar and funny too.

See what I mean! So predictable. Some cannot bear to see that the country is on the up under the current government!

Freedom 21

Freedom 21 wrote: »

Will there be a new announcement regarding the plans for reopening now that Leo is in the Independent saying there is no reason to believe a 4th wave is coming

A big change in Govt thinking in 24 hours

Try reading the article before posting.

“ TÁNAISTE Leo Varadkar has insisted there is “no reason to believe” a fourth lockdown will be imposed on the country despite the looming threat of the Delta variant of the coronavirus.

Mr Varadkar said yesterday that there will be a fourth wave of the pandemic over the coming summer months and admitted that at this point the Government do not know how long it will last or how bad it will be.

However, he insisted the country would “weather through” another spike in new cases by ramping up vaccinations, keeping the current restrictions in place and introducing vaccine passes for indoor dining.

“There is no reason to believe that we will be forced to go into a fourth lockdown because of the variant,” Mr Varadkar told the Irish Independent. ”

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

See what I mean! So predictable. Some cannot bear to see that the country is on the up under the current government!

'Some' made no comment on 'the country'. 'Some' challenged you on suspected bluffing/lies.

But you cleared it all up Maryanne, no doubt about it.

Finty Lemon

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

You'll be throwing around made up numbers next

ECDC ... its all there

Finty Lemon

Ireland ahead of Germany, France, Portugal, Sweden, Norway on vaccine schedule.

Similar to Austra and Denmark, remember those two who were lauded here as being massively progressive on their sourcing policy?

blanch152

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Ireland ahead of Germany, France, Portugal, Sweden, Norway on vaccine schedule.

Similar to Austra and Denmark, remember those two who were lauded here as being massively progressive on their sourcing policy?

This is something that the government deserves great credit for. They have ensured that we have had one of the most efficient distributions of vaccines. If they pull of the Romanian deal, we will move ahead of everyone.

blanch152

skimpydoo wrote: »

More from the article:

At another pharmacy, a worker said that they are taking names to vaccinate the new age groups, but can’t do anything for those under 50 yet as they are still waiting HSE guidance.

One pharmacist in Dublin City centre said that he had heard some talk about this being a possibility during the week, but this was the first he had heard about official confirmation.

He has since applied to the HSE to order more of the Janssen jab into his business.

“It was alright before now because most of the over 50s are vaccinated anyway,” he said, “but we have quite a young demographic around us here.”

Another pharmacist from a different pharmacy in the South Dublin area said: “My phone is so bad, I can barely do my normal day’s work.

“It wasn’t communicated. The HSE and government kind of dumped it on pharmacies and didn’t communicate it properly. And a lot of pharmacies have waiting lists and they’ve no vaccines.

“It’s crazy, crazy!”

Another pharmacist contacted The Journal to say: “We only had 20 vaccines to give out because that was what we had leftover from the over 50′s and we had no communication from the HSE as to when or how many doses, if any, that we will be getting from them.

“We were totally thrown in the deep end here and only able to provide the information that we got from the news,” he said. “They haven’t even contacted us to tell us that we are getting more vaccines! It’s impossible!”

They are still waiting for a plan to be put in place over the weekend for Monday’s rollout.

Oh dearie me, the government moves quickly and private sector pharmacists are slow on the uptake. I am surprised that we haven't had SF types on here calling for the nationalisation of pharmacies because they are slow to implement the government's decision.

Oh.......I see,.....that would mean conceding the government is right to roll out vaccines as quick as possible.

mattser

blanch152 wrote: »

Oh dearie me, the government moves quickly and private sector pharmacists are slow on the uptake. I am surprised that we haven't had SF types on here calling for the nationalisation of pharmacies because they are slow to implement the government's decision.

Oh.......I see,.....that would mean conceding the government is right to roll out vaccines as quick as possible.

I see the same perma whingers have run out of government damning weekend ' breaking stories '. You know, the ones that never were.
Another week wasted plodding the keyboard.
Do they ever do a days work ?

RandomViewer

mattser wrote: »

I see the same perma whingers have run out of government damning weekend ' breaking stories '. You know, the ones that never were.
Another week wasted plodding the keyboard.
Do they ever do a days work ?

Babs and Hookie in unison?