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FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Oh dearie me, the government moves quickly and private sector pharmacists are slow on the uptake. I am surprised that we haven't had SF types on here calling for the nationalisation of pharmacies because they are slow to implement the government's decision.

    Oh.......I see,.....that would mean conceding the government is right to roll out vaccines as quick as possible.

    The government moves quickly? :):) Good one!

    I see they are finally going to go against NPHET and introduce antigen testing....quick move there alright! :):)

    Somebody senior in the health service said to me that the reason the first 'on the ground' response to the pandemic and the vaccine rollout was so good and efficient was because there is so many wasting their time plodding on keyboards and never doing a days work in the Health service so there were loads available to deploy to the task.
    Stands to reason, it was a very efficient service when I engaged with i a few times for my own jab and for people I care for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    The government moves quickly? :):) Good one!

    I see they are finally going to go against NPHET and introduce antigen testing....quick move there alright! :):)

    Somebody senior in the health service said to me that the reason the first 'on the ground' response to the pandemic and the vaccine rollout was so good and efficient was because there is so many wasting their time plodding on keyboards and never doing a days work in the Health service so there were loads available to deploy to the task.
    Stands to reason, it was a very efficient service when I engaged with i a few times for my own jab and for people I care for.
    Are you suggesting a widespread cull in the HSE once this covid is over? Which union group will you target first?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Are you suggesting a widespread cull in the HSE once this covid is over? Which union group will you target first?

    I'd like to start again with the HSE lad.

    Let's not get into a protracted debate about what everyone knows, the waste in the admin of the health and public service.

    I was told something and it was not hard to see how it made sense. Take it or leave it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think I've got my answer finally on why the FrancieBrady account won't acknowledge this time that the government should have followed Nphet advice
    My own view is the 19th is where that should end and the antigen testing if not vaccinated at indoor dining should begin
    It seems to be what they're aiming for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I think I've got my answer finally on why the FrancieBrady account won't acknowledge this time that the government should have followed Nphet advice
    My own view is the 19th is where that should end and the antigen testing if not vaccinated at indoor dining should begin
    It seems to be what they're aiming for

    No idea what that has to do with me.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No idea what that has to do with me.

    Of course you don't it was just a couple of days ago and the modus operandi is answers like the above will deflect from being called out on moving goalposts to maximise giving out
    They don't
    All for following nphet advice last Xmas
    All against it now
    Pretence when questioned
    No exact position untill the government decides except they're too slow(when in fact they're quick)
    Both positions probably prepared
    One used
    Zero credibility
    This Sherlock has the FrancieBrady accounts posts All deduced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Of course you don't it was just a couple of days ago and the modus operandi is answers like the above will deflect from being called out on moving goalposts to maximise giving out
    They don't
    All for following nphet advice last Xmas
    All against it now
    Pretence when questioned
    No exact position untill the government decides except they're too slow(when in fact they're quick)
    Both positions probably prepared
    One used
    Zero credibility
    This Sherlock has the FrancieBrady accounts posts All deduced

    You got a bee in your bonnet because I said that the government should follow the health advice (which includes but ins't exclusive to NPHET).

    Other than that I'm still not sure what your issue is.

    Now I see the snide accusation that I have 'accounts'.

    Can you back up what you mean by that accusation or withdraw it please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Surprised there were no polls this weekend,


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    I'd like to start again with the HSE lad.

    Let's not get into a protracted debate about what everyone knows, the waste in the admin of the health and public service.

    I was told something and it was not hard to see how it made sense. Take it or leave it.

    Why not debate it? Starting again is the easy bit. Sounds a bit like a pol pot socialist experiment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Week in politics doing Dublin by-election Alan B"stard lives.
    horrile little gnome Barratt got spouting his bile on RTE?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Why not debate it? Starting again is the easy bit. Sounds a bit like a pol pot socialist experiment.

    Housing and health in crisis...suggest change and you are likened to Pol Pot.

    Yeh, sure Finty, who wouldn't be up for a debate with that mindset? :):)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Housing and health in crisis...suggest change and you are likened to Pol Pot.

    Yeh, sure Finty, who wouldn't be up for a debate with that mindset? :):)

    Suggested 'starting again' what is that?? Either a nonsense vague notion or maybe a nice euphemism for something more radical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Suggested 'starting again' what is that?? Either a nonsense vague notion or maybe a nice euphemism for something more radical.

    If you think start again is 'vague' that would be another red flag about entering debate with you.

    The comment I made stands on it's own. Make of it what you will.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    If you think start again is 'vague' that would be another red flag about entering debate with you.

    The comment I made stands on it's own. Make of it what you will.

    I presume "start again" means privatize the lot?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Russia is in the grip of a 3rd covid wave. Only 16% of the population has received its first vaccine.

    Vaccine hesitancy is widespread in the population, a legacy of decades of a socialist government system that 'managed' information to its subjects


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    While pointing out what he did, is welcome, what he should be saying is that unpunished state killings of civilians is a much more fundamental threat to democracy and human rights than that of paramilitaries or subversives.

    State killings require scrutiny and justice to be served no matter how long ago they happened.



    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ddf5ec60-dc42-11eb-a2c2-c6b14b84b2dd?shareToken=593a5ea8f39513197dfc5e23c4046147


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    "In this paper, we have studied the impact of rent control on its tenant beneficiaries as well as the landlord response. To answer this question, we exploit a unique rent control expansion in San Francisco in 1994 that suddenly provided rent control protections for small multi-family housing built prior to 1980. By combining new panel microdata on individual migration decisions with detailed assessor data on individual parcels in San Francisco, we get quasi-experimental variation in the assignment of rent control at both the individual tenant level and at the parcel level.

    We find that, on average, in the medium to long term the beneficiaries of rent control are between 10 and 20 percent more likely to remain at their 1994 address relative to the control group and, moreover, are more likely to remain in San Francisco. Further, we find the effects of rent control on tenants are stronger for racial minorities, suggesting rent control helped prevent minority displacement from San Francisco. All our estimated effects are significantly stronger among older households and among households that have already spent a number of years at their current address. On the other hand, individuals in areas with quickly rising house prices and with few years at their 1994 address are less likely to remain at their current address, consistent with the idea that landlords try to remove tenants when the
    reward is high, through either eviction or negotiated payments.

    We find that landlords actively respond to the imposition of rent control by converting their properties to condos and TICs or by redeveloping the building in such as a way as to exempt it from the regulations. In sum, we find that impacted landlords reduced the supply of available rental housing by 15 percent. Further, we find that there was a 25 percent decline in the number of renters living in units protected by rent control, as many buildings were converted to new construction or condos that are exempt from rent control.

    This reduction in rental supply likely increased rents in the long run, leading to a transfer between future San Francisco renters and renters living in San Francisco in 1994. In addition, the conversion of existing rental properties to higher-end, owner-occupied condominium housing ultimately led to a housing stock increasingly directed toward higher income individuals. In this way, rent control contributed to the gentrification of San Francisco, contrary to the stated policy goal. Rent control appears to have increased income inequality in the city by both limiting displacement of minorities and attracting higher income residents.

    These results highlight that forcing landlords to provide insurance against rent increases can ultimately be counterproductive. If society desires to provide social insurance against rent increases, it may be less distortionary to offer this subsidy
    in the form of government subsidies or tax credits. This would remove landlords’ incentives to decrease the housing supply and could provide households with the insurance they desire. A point of future research would be to design an optimal social insurance program to insure renters against large rent increases." Interesting conclusions from a 2018 manhatten institute paper.

    SF made the housing situation worse by introducing rent control
    A better solution is tax breaks for residential developers to boost supply


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Russia is in the grip of a 3rd covid wave. Only 16% of the population has received its first vaccine.

    Vaccine hesitancy is widespread in the population, a legacy of decades of a socialist government system that 'managed' information to its subjects

    It seems it one thing a lot of EU Government's are envious of Ireland of. The uptake of vaccines right accross the age groups is astounding them. We cannot get vaccine's fast enough. As fast as we get them we use them. I think for the hoping and having at present it four days from coming into the country that a vaccine ends up in someone's arm. If you do not take it someone else will. Waiting my second AZ dose tempted to ring a few pharmacy's and go on backup for second dose. It's a matter of getting on with it now

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    It seems it one thing a lot of EU Government's are envious of Ireland of. The uptake of vaccines right accross the age groups is astounding them. We cannot get vaccine's fast enough. As fast as we get them we use them. I think for the hoping and having at present it four days from coming into the country that a vaccine ends up in someone's arm. If you do not take it someone else will. Waiting my second AZ dose tempted to ring a few pharmacy's and go on backup for second dose. It's a matter of getting on with it now

    It's because we have been locked down for so long, the fear that is out there driven by the media and now the drive for a 2 tier society with restrictions on people's freedom who have not taken the vaccine. People just want the lockdown over with and all restrictions lifted. Simple as that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Floppybits wrote: »
    It's because we have been locked down for so long, the fear that is out there driven by the media and now the drive for a 2 tier society with restrictions on people's freedom who have not taken the vaccine. People just want the lockdown over with and all restrictions lifted. Simple as that


    60000 at the Austran Grand Prix today and our crowd wetting themselves over a few sheep pens in Kilmainham last night for a concert and 500 in Wexford for Leinster quarter final football match.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    60000 at the Austran Grand Prix today and our crowd wetting themselves over a few sheep pens in Kilmainham last night for a concert and 500 in Wexford for Leinster quarter final football match.

    Well Reid was on today saying that the hospitals are at capacity and that is with just 44 covid cases in hospital. No capacity added so we can expect another lockdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Well Reid was on today saying that the hospitals are at capacity and that is with just 44 covid cases in hospital. No capacity added so we can expect another lockdown

    Legacy of FFG governance. 44 in hospital and society can't move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Legacy of FFG governance. 44 in hospital and society can't move on.

    Exactly even if the vaccines work and hospital numbers don't increase they won't open due to the capacity issued. FF FG and the the unions that have mismanaged and destroyed the HSE should be held to account.


  • Registered Users Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Fils


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Well Reid was on today saying that the hospitals are at capacity and that is with just 44 covid cases in hospital. No capacity added so we can expect another lockdown

    Paul Reid need to be removed from his position, clueless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Relax brah wrote: »
    Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter


    Easily pleased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Relax brah wrote: »
    Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter

    Well his own party members have said that Varadkar is on the spectrum ,whether that's the Autism spectrum or the HSEs main computer is anyone's guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Relax brah wrote: »
    Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter

    Another deluded gov supporter.
    I think you need to be prescribed something yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Relax brah wrote: »
    Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter

    'Handling' Pearse would have been countering his points wth the truth as he saw it. Nope, what we got was arrogance and deflection.


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    'Handling' Pearse would have been countering his points wth the truth as he saw it. Nope, what we got was arrogance and deflection.

    Leo pointed out the obvious. He’s sick of the vocal posturing of the empty vessels in opposition, who are more interested in social media likes than actually doing anything proactive re housing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Leo pointed out the obvious. He’s sick of the vocal posturing of the empty vessels in opposition, who are more interested in social media likes than actually doing anything proactive re housing.

    So Varadkar should resign for delaying insurance legislation ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Leo pointed out the obvious. He’s sick of the vocal posturing of the empty vessels in opposition, who are more interested in social media likes than actually doing anything proactive re housing.

    You do realise he could be talking about himself there? Mr Anonymous Accounts himself.

    People have been vocal in the Dàil since the foundation of the state. It was a woe is me hissy fit designed to deflect from government failures. What does it remind me off....hmmm


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You do realise he could be talking about himself there? Mr Anonymous Accounts himself.

    People have been vocal in the Dàil since the foundation of the state. It was a woe is me hissy fit designed to deflect from government failures. What does it remind me off....hmmm

    I feel your pain, Frankie. Micheal, Leo and Eamon are doing a great job in very difficult circumstances. Get over it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Pharmacy union rep on radio today said their interactions with govt last week were excellent. They were directly involved in the planning for changes in vaccine cohorts to be offered through pharmacies, and communicated the plan to their members in good time.
    The 'panic' as characterised by some wilfully misinformed people here was simply down to demand from 18-30 year olds. This is seen by health professionals as a very positive development as there was concern that uptake would be lower than optimal in this group.
    The plan accelerates availability to this key group by 4 to 6 weeks approximately, and with 1million extra doses secured from Romania also, it represents a very good week of progress.
    But sure complain about some irrelevant 'communication issues' if you like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    60000 at the Austran Grand Prix today and our crowd wetting themselves over a few sheep pens in Kilmainham last night for a concert and 500 in Wexford for Leinster quarter final football match.

    Austria right now is in a position of relatively low case numbers, still declining cases and a smaller proportion of Delta.

    “But the proportion of Delta is also growing rapidly and we’ve got far fewer people fully vaccinated than in the UK.

    “Personally, I think that we’ll probably need to reintroduce many currently lifted interventions in Austria to stop the next wave of cases, hospilisations and deaths"
    Fabian Valka, Vectorraum


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I feel your pain, Frankie. Micheal, Leo and Eamon are doing a great job in very difficult circumstances. Get over it.

    Whoever told you that is bluffing/lying Maryanne.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Three-quarters of German residents expect a rise in coronavirus infections and new restrictions on public movement in the fall, according to a survey published Sunday.

    Research firm YouGov found that 76% of respondents expect an increase in the number of COVID-19 infections and for pandemic measures to be tightened during the autumn period.

    Only 16% think there will be no new COVID restrictions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    FFG are ahead of the curve


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    "Vaccination against the coronavirus could soon become compulsory for all adults in France — with some suggesting children as young as 12 should be given the jab.

    Jean Castex, the prime minister, has asked MPs and state authorities to propose ways of extending mandatory vaccination to all adults after initially imposing it on healthcare workers. Reluctance among the public to vaccinate appears likely to prevent the country reaching the 80 per cent needed to reach collective immunity."

    Can u imagine Fat Pearse if this came in?? Full Irish heart attack guaranteed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Three-quarters of German residents expect a rise in coronavirus infections and new restrictions on public movement in the fall, according to a survey published Sunday.

    Research firm YouGov found that 76% of respondents expect an increase in the number of COVID-19 infections and for pandemic measures to be tightened during the autumn period.

    Only 16% think there will be no new COVID restrictions.

    Stephen Donnelly is expecting us to be hit by a hurricane.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Norway's prime minister and health minister have both admitted that the Delta variant of Covid-19 will probably push back the final step of Norway's reopening plan.

    Health Minister Bent Høie has warned that the final step of Norway’s four-step plan to reopen the country and lift coronavirus measures will be pushed back due to concerns over the spread of the Delta coronavirus variant, which was first identified in India.

    The next step of Norway’s reopening plan was due to be assessed and potentially announced next week, but now the government will instead focus on making sure Norway doesn’t take a step back, rather than moving forward with the reopening plan.

    “Next week will mark three weeks since we moved to step three, but with the uncertainty associated with the Delta variant, my priority will be to avoid taking a step back in the reopening plan, rather than taking a step forward,” Høie told newspaper


    Grown ups in charge in Norway too, evidently


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Stephen Donnelly is expecting us to be hit by a hurricane.

    Planning


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    In other news, the hysteria surrounding teachers not being vaccinated before returning to school, and the warnings of catastrophe around roll out of the Leaving Cert, have long since been forgotten due to the unwavering leadership of Minister Norma Foley.
    A grown up in charge. Not a word from Aodhan ORiordain or indeed from little Donnchadh, who has disappeared from view entirely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    In other news, the hysteria surrounding teachers not being vaccinated before returning to school, and the warnings of catastrophe around roll out of the Leaving Cert, have long since been forgotten due to the unwavering leadership of Minister Norma Foley.
    A grown up in charge. Not a word from Aodhan ORiordain or indeed from little Donnchadh, who has disappeared from view entirely.

    I think the scrutiny of what newbie Foley was up to in Education by all the opposition worked out well. She couldn't break wind without explaining what she was doing.

    This is how it works Finty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    I think the scrutiny of what newbie Foley was up to in Education by all the opposition worked out well. She couldn't break wind without explaining what she was doing.

    This is how it works Finty.

    They all disagreed with her. She didn't care. Her plan worked. They shut up. Thats how it works :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    They all disagreed with her. She didn't care. Her plan worked. They shut up. Thats how it works :D

    Schools were empty here for most of May but not reported, Media coverage blocked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,127 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    They all disagreed with her. She didn't care. Her plan worked. They shut up. Thats how it works :D

    Her plans were scrutinised and questioned. Opposition doing it's job. She had to comply.
    Once done she got on with doing her job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Schools were empty here for most of May but not reported, Media coverage blocked

    Good silage weather probably


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Good silage weather probably

    Fun finding silage where this happened,


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    We will have more of it in the next few weeks now from Matt the Chat Carthy. Matt will lecture us all about CAP, despite never having set foot on a working farm.
    Come to think of it, he has never actually showed up at any place of work for a day's hard graft, too busy with activism to have a real job.
    He knows the current proposal by the grown ups stinks and will oppose it enthusiastically just like he backed the now utterly discredited beef plan movement. But he will have no idea of what to do as an alternative. Yap yap yap.


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