FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

corkie

@markodaly Now, do you put the onus on parents alone to police this or should some of this fall to the Social Media companies?

I already provided enough content in my posts to answer your question and don't want to derail this thread any further on the subject.

As posted above opened a new thread on it:- The Digital Services Act 2024 [EU] in Politics

JP Liz V1

FF with SF but what older grass rooters are left in FF?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41374753.html

howiya

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122024732#Comment_122024732

A bizarre twist given the events of the last few weeks. The leader of Fine Gael is a matter for the members of Fine Gael etc is all we've heard from the Fianna Fail TDs

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.newstalk.com/news/half-of-young-people-dissatisfied-with-their-housing-situation-ncyi-1716053

The report was conducted on 18–29-year-olds and focused on how they were impacted by some of the most pressing issues facing the country.

Housing was the most concerning issue for 67% of respondents with more than half of respondents reporting a rise in their rental or mortgage payments over the past year.

The cost of living was also the most pressing concern for 62% of respondents, with 44% of respondents feeling financially ‘worse off’ than last year.

Some 22% of respondents also said they 'skipped meals' due to cost in the last 12 months.

NYCI director of Policy and Advocacy Paul Gordon said the report’s findings were “alarming”.

“It should serve as a wake-up call to Government to address some basic unmet needs for young people,” he said.

The report also found one in two young people have low mental well-being in Ireland.

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Don't worry young people of Ireland. A giveaway budget will cure what ails ye.

And we have excellent mental health services should you need them…oh wait.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122025343#Comment_122025343

inevitable really, government parties are in serious trouble, and they may not make it through back into government after the ge, interesting times…..

corkie

https://twitter.com/RTE_PrimeTime/status/1780125220088483896

RTE News mentioned they are doing a show on it tonight.

"To the social media companies our message is clear. Take concrete steps to get underage children off your apps or we will impose those steps on you." ~~ Micheal Martin

Don't be to quick write that off as bluster, EU Laws have already been enacted in February to deal with it.

These laws have far reaching powers and will effect adults use of social media as well.

More on this subject to come in a new thread I started last night.

The Digital Services Act 2024 [EU] in Politics

These laws/act where action-ed in 2022 during Covid to target miss-information, I believe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act

Edit: - Just watch leaders questions and #TheTikTokseach was asked about it as well

corkie

The Committee on Children…… was on RTE News just now and still continues (on a break) and these issues are been addressed.

Made another post in thread I created last night eager to hear other peoples opinions, so i don't end up creating another echo chamber?

The Digital Services Act 2024 [EU] in Politics

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122020813#Comment_122020813

Think its time for the bould Colm to call it a day.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027064#Comment_122027064

As you are putting this all around boards maybe instead of complaining about what others are doing you can give your opinion on what should be done?

corkie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122028125#Comment_122028125

Hello Moderator Clo-Clo, I am not putting it all around boards. Feel free to look at my comment history.

I create the new topic, because discussion on it was derailing this thread. And if you read the posts or thread, I have voiced my opinion.

Responsible parent supervision of under 16's use of smartphones was one.

US3

Youd think Michael would be more concerned about the hundreds of children that have simply vanished from state care, and rodrick o gorman permanently delete all files about it by accident. Or the other hundreds of children in state care that ended up in the sex trade

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122028209#Comment_122028209

Im not a moderator. Very strange attitude but anyway! best of luck on your travels!!

In terms of internet I have made my position clear, not hard to find, you can see my previous posts!

dasa29

New Poll

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1781922259868811446

JP Liz V1

Wow how are FG and SF in that position, up in polls?

FF clever in their local election pick candidates

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41378992.html

US3

I can't believe he's really a candidate Jesus Christ above

corkie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122014125#Comment_122014125

Taoiseach ‘furious’ at Tánaiste’s Ard Fheis promises

• New Taoiseach Simon Harris has expressed his unhappiness to colleagues over the number of giveaway budget promises made by Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin at his party’s Ard Fheis last week.
• It marks a reversal of the tensions sparked by Mr Harris’s predecessor
• But Fianna Fáil ministers, on learning of the new Taoiseach’s dissatisfaction, pointed out that Mr Harris himself revealed a new five-year house-building target in his own speech the week before.
• But the Taoiseach is not the only Coalition leader unhappy with Mr Martin’s pre-budget largesse.

Unhappy times with the coalition?

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047109#Comment_122047109

I wondered how long it would take for Simon to become petty. It was about 2 days. Fun times in store.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047109#Comment_122047109

I suggest you look at these government threads and look at the number of articles shared, with no direct comments from anyone in parties, saying they are upset over XYZ.

All shared with glee on here saying similar to what you posted

Maybe we will see an "early election" which also on these thread has been predicted since, July 2020 🤣

tom23

can’t believe it myself.

corkie

@Clo-Clo with no direct comments from anyone in parties, saying they are upset over XYZ.

Thanks again for quoting and replying to my post's giving them more weight, than if you ignored them. People see your reply and get curious about what your moaning about.

Do you honestly think anyone from the parties are on boards replying to anything they see here? They have staff who are aware of the site. But don't post here.

Guildenstern

FFG still hanging onto the celebrity candidate launches although I doubt anymore the old same surname trick would still muster. Most offspring don't want the hassle.

They must be scouring the GAA still you'd think.

FFG aren't referred to as the Civil War parties for nothing. Increasingly becoming products of Ireland's past.

An Claidheamh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122046005#Comment_122046005

Disappointing.

On another day, that man (who I regard highly) would be strung up by the FFG "justice" system, while the perpetrator makes huge money scamming the dole and welfare

Exhibit A :

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/man-accused-breaking-tallaght-home-28960653.amp

Along with the many foreign nationals who run for FFG, yet complain about lack of justice for victims of crime, racism, etc -

they have just sold out the people responsible for it, they won't be lecturing me anyway

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047109#Comment_122047109

The odds of the Government lasting into the new year are probably getting slimmer by the day.

I'd say they are fighting like cats and dogs behind the scenes.

corkie

Latest tweet from FineGael!

• Fine Gael will deliver 250,000 homes between 2025 and 2030.

They are assuming they will still be in Government?

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1782429622698725884

As follow up, I posted a picture of book, in a previous post,

'The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness.'

The Author was Interviewed by The New Yorker recently. Link in this thread post.

Blut2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122050912#Comment_122050912

FG didn't deliver anything close to that while in government from 2011 to 2016, or 2016 to 2020, or 2020 to 2024 while they had every opportunity but trust them, this time, everything will change and they'll do it! The 4th term in office is when they'll finally start building houses, just ignore the extensive history of past performance in those other three terms!

They could really do with some more believable PR.

corkie

@Blut2 They could really do with some more believable PR.

Or hire a better company to do it?

Voter: “I’m not sure what party to vote for in the upcoming European and Local elections.”

Us: “Look between D and H on your keyboard.”

Quoted just in case it gets taken down!

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1782807876043416044

Are they really that desperate relying on corny JOKES.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122054571#Comment_122054571

THe obsession with FG and everything they do continues

If you dislike FG so much, which seems to be the case, why are you monitoring their twitter account?

Winding up the online trolls on twitter with stuff like this is the best thing any of the parties can do.

corkie

I asked you before do you know how these apps/sites actually work?

I joined 'X'/'Twitter' in May 2009 and have followed allot of parties or TD's whether I like them personally or not!

The algorithms feed me stuff based on my followings, clicks and interactions, so I'm not monitoring accounts.

It is election year, Local, EU and probably a GE before year end? [NOT a prediction]

So if I want to keep informed, it is none of your business?

@Clo-Clo

Strange the 'X' account mirrored it?

https://twitter.com/X/status/1782851673481965937

https://www.citizen.digital/entertainment/the-look-between-x-and-y-on-your-keyboard-trend-is-confusing-people-online-heres-how-it-all-started-n340885

AlmightyCushion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122051366#Comment_122051366

14,500 houses/apartments were built in 2017. It was nearly 33,000 last year. That is a big increase.

Blut2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122055280#Comment_122055280

Every analysis is that we need approx 60k housing units a year to be built. We're building low 30s. Half of whats needed.

Your "big increase" is an improvement of 18,500 completions per year over 6 years, or about 3000 per year.

At that rate of increase it will take us another decade to come close to building whats required per year. Thats a record of utter failure of policy making, and is why the housing crisis is as bad as it is currently.

There has been awareness and talk of a housing crisis in the Dail for a decade now. The excuses of "it can't be fixed over night" or "but we're making improvements!" absolutely held water when we were emerging from the recession in circa 2013-2014. But it did not any time over the last decade from 2015 to 2024.

It would absolutely have been possible to ramp up building massively over a 3-5 year window within that, if our government had chosen to do it. But they didn't. Thats down to awful decision making.

AlmightyCushion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122055397#Comment_122055397

Lots of countries are struggling to build housing. Germany is building less than 10 times what we did but with 17 times our population. The UK is building less than 8 times what we build with 13 times our population. The Netherlands built over double what we built with 3.5 times our population. Lots of countries are having problems building enough housing. This causes huge demand for construction workers and is part of the problem we have.

We doubled our annual housing output over a 5 year period with a global pandemedic in the middle of it. That is a big ramp up.

https://www.iamexpat.nl/housing/real-estate-news/netherlands-built-record-number-homes-2022-it-isnt-enough

https://www.thelocal.de/20230420/why-does-germany-keep-missing-its-house-building-targets

https://www.bbc.com/news/61407508

CarProblem

The utterly clueless Helen McEntee embarrasses herself yet again yesterday as Michael McNamara absolutely skewered her

You'd think such an embarrassing performance as well as the content of what was said would be news today but strangely not a peep from the likes of RTE……….

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122055927#Comment_122055927

I just watched it. It's actually quite scary how inept the Justice department has become under her leadership. She came across as someone who was on her first day in the job. Simon failed in his first big test by keeping McEntee in there - he and FG will have to suffer the consequences in the elections this year. McNamara was knowledgeable and excellent as always.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122055066#Comment_122055066

I know how it works, I can manage to log onto X and not get a load of tweets from people I have no interest in. So maybe the question should be do you know how it works if you don't want to hear from FG yet you are getting their tweets?

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122055397#Comment_122055397

None of this is wrong, but there is also strong opposition to the planning bill which is the only thing that might realistically actually help. The problems with house building are fundamentally planning related.

tom23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122056034#Comment_122056034

Someone, anyone in Fine Gael must be looking at this and going what the actual ****? Either McEntee has some kind of threat over Harris or its is just lets hope we get through the next 10 months fingers crossed. I actually thought she was going to laugh with nerves… she is a smart lady I have met her, but she is awful in this role. She was like a duck… calm on the surface, paddling like **** under water. We have serious, serious problems with immigration and between her and O'Gorman… there will be an almighty mess to be cleaned up after they are gone.

corkie

@Clo-Clo if you don't want to hear from FG yet you are getting their tweets?

What gives you the impression that I don't want to hear from them? Their a party in government. I use the site effectively to get broad range of views and opinions. Like to keep informed. (not my only source).

We all have our own reasons for doing things.

Blut2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122055494#Comment_122055494

Other countries have wildly different housing markets, availability of prexisting properties, and population growth demographics, to us. There are plenty of countries globally with very large scale housing building at present too, but they're equally irrelevant to the Irish market.

Adding 3000 units a year, to get from 17k to 33k, over 6 years is absolutely anemic growth in the middle of the worst housing crisis in the history of the state. When we know we need to be building 60k units a year it would literally take us another decade to get to that point with this level of growth. How is that in any way defensible? Another decade, or likely more, of this housing crisis ongoing if we stay this course?

Our housing output was close to 100k units a year in recent history in the 2000s, when our population was 20% lower than it is now. We also built far more housing per capita in the 1970s, at a time when Ireland was an economic basket case, than we do now.

Building housing in large numbers is not some unachievable mystery, it just requires a government to decide to do it. Our recent FG governments however have either through rank incompetence, or deliberate decision to limit housing supply throughout the 2015-2024 time period to drive up the price of homes, not done this.

Blut2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122055927#Comment_122055927

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-4WI5kYN1Y

For anyone who hasn't seen it. Its worth watching the first two minutes at the very least to get a flavour of it.

The level of incompetence is genuinely scary, she hasn't got a clue. McNamara has all the facts and figures ready to corner her badly.

roosterman71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122056544#Comment_122056544

Labour and planning are the biggest issues here now. Money is no object. The 2000s was making people rich in the building game. No shortage of people. 70s Ireland was piss poor and local authorities hd no trouble getting builders as it was a paying job. Different ball game now

Blut2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122056574#Comment_122056574

Thats not remotely accurate. We had as many construction workers in 2023 as in 2005, when we built 86,000 housing units. Our planning laws while still problematic now are at least slightly better than they were in 2005.

The labour difference is now our workers are building more non-housing projects. Thats down to the government not prioritising home building. Thats because of bad government policy choice.

70s Ireland was essentially bankrupt as a country yet we managed to fund widescale home building. We spent a higher % of income per capita on housing then than we did in the second half of the 2010s, when Ireland had a booming economy. Thats because of bad government policy choice.

Clo-Clo

The "new houses" numbers do not include the active regeneration of housing which is going on at the moment, the regeneration is a huge bonus for Ireland when the option in the Celtic Tiger was to build new and older houses let to rot.

From what I can gather, any of these houses which people are moving in and bringing back into the housing market are not part of the numbers.

This also has taken a lot of construction workers with plenty of companies specialising in this area

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122056544#Comment_122056544

"building housing in large numbers is not some unachievable mystery, it just requires a government to decide to do it"

Of all the uninformed comments that I have seen on here across many subjects, this ranks at or near the very top.

Finance isn't needed, construction workers aren't needed, building supplies aren't needed, apprentices aren't needed, serviced land isn't needed, utilities aren't needed, etc., etc., all that is required is a government to decide to do it.

Unadulterated nonsense.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122057433#Comment_122057433

As we have seen as well, even when the government handed millions to a county council, the county council left the money sitting and did nothing with it.

You also have the campaigns run by political parties to block all houses in every area of Ireland, the perfect example recently of the unit in desperate need in Dublin, in an ideal location, blocked by the leader of an opposition party.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122056170#Comment_122056170

Matt Cooper and Yates discussed this at length recently. They both agreed that even the latest and long overdue planning legislation won't even remotely be good enough to unblock planning applications in a timely and efficient manner. The fact that new planning laws and planning reform has taken so so so long is all on FFGG. It should have been done many years ago.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122057566#Comment_122057566

I don't disagree, yet it is notable that even that insufficient improvement is vociferously opposed by those who claim they would fix the problem, which doesn't make much sense.

And yes, it should have been done long ago. But politicians have never lost votes by pandering to NIMBYs.

corkie

@JP Liz V1 Asked before at what age should children have smartphones?

@Clo-Clo This topic is of interest to me and this why I like been informed of a parties policies?

Fine Gael is calling for the digital age of consent [16 in Ireland] to be enforced and better education on the impact of social media. Same age the parental supervision ends on a google account here.

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1783121660549197877

Nanny State rules?

Backing up Micheal Martin's stance on the issue.

As FG EU candidates will more likely have to vote by party lines. It probably will be not worth my while discussing the 'Digital Services Act' #DSA with them?

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122057723#Comment_122057723

I would say from 15, 3rd year onwards

I was shocked by the amount of smartphones used by youngsters at Holy Communions

JP Liz V1

I think Helen should resign, her incompetence is astonishing, no knowledge of information despite asked twice for figures

JP Liz V1

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https://twitter.com/griptmedia/status/1782860092494295494