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  • 19-04-2021 4:32am
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    Ray Palmer
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    Looking at removing a load baring wall. I often see it done like attached. Is there some reason it cannot be done so ceiling is flat and no beam showing?


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    Ray Palmer
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    Picture


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    volono
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    I presume an r s j. was put in the walls place, so as to support the weight, don't think there's a way round it.


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    DOCARCH
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    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Looking at removing a load baring wall. I often see it done like attached. Is there some reason it cannot be done so ceiling is flat and no beam showing?

    It can be done either way but installing a beam flush/so it can't be seen is usually more costly and more disruptive the structure above....usually involves cutting floor joists to be beam in/up and pinning the wall above with preops though the floor.


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    Gumbo
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    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Looking at removing a load baring wall. I often see it done like attached. Is there some reason it cannot be done so ceiling is flat and no beam showing?
    Ray Palmer wrote: »
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    Quite simply, cost.

    To flush Mount the beam, means you have to cut and notch each joists so it more labour intensive. I always tell people to donut as in 2 years time you’ll be kicking yourself looking at it everyday while the difference in cost paid for a kitchen table that can be bought at any other time.

    Flush and forget.


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    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,400 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    It can be done either way but installing a beam flush/so it can't be seen is usually more costly and more disruptive the structure above....usually involves cutting floor joists to be beam in/up and pinning the wall above with preops though the floor.

    I can understand that but in this case the joists don't connect to the wall. It is only load bearing for the wall above it. Actually thinking it might be cheaper and cleaner to remove entire wall. Then put in a patrician wall up stairs from where wall is removed


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    PMBC
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    Have a look in your attic first. You might find the wall upstairs is supporting the roof.


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