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ElChe32

Now the real work begins lads. #GlazersOUT

Chuck Noland

https://youtu.be/CWCycC0P5AM



Fans run football lads

ShaneU

Thank god for that

Glazers out

y0ssar1an22

andy mitten talking about EW and the SL collapse.

Alf Veedersane

Thank God.

It was all a bit sad. So far removed from what a lot of us grew up watching. A lot has changed and made it more commercial...far more commercial and a lot of points made about how it was a logical step from the changes in the last 20-odd years.

But it felt like it was a massive step over the line. Watching the ESL would have left me cold.

I'm delighted that sense has been seen. I don't think it has gone away though. Maybe Perez and his ilk will realise that unsustainable business is unsustainable. I won't hold my breath.

But for now I'm happy with the very public opposition to it from players and even from the like of Guardiola.

pjohnson

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Thank God.

It was all a bit sad. So far removed from what a lot of us grew up watching. A lot has changed and made it more commercial...far more commercial and a lot of points made about how it was a logical step from the changes in the last 20-odd years.

But it felt like it was a massive step over the line. Watching the ESL would have left me cold.

I'm delighted that sense has been seen. I don't think it has gone away though. Maybe Perez and his ilk will realise that unsustainable business is unsustainable. I won't hold my breath.

But for now I'm happy with the very public opposition to it from players and even from the like of Guardiola.

It was all worth it to get rid of Woodward.

Adamocovic

Nowhere near the end of it.

Will be interesting to see what actions are taken now. Not only by the FA, Uefa and UK government but also by the club and Glazers.

What an absolutely bizarre crazy period.

Alf Veedersane

pjohnson wrote: »

It was all worth it to get rid of Woodward.

Every cloud, eh

Father Hernandez

pjohnson wrote: »

It was all worth it to get rid of Woodward.

And hopefully the start of the Glazers.

The announcement on the website is pretty pathetic too but not surprising.

Manchester United will not be participating in the European Super League.

We have listened carefully to the reaction from our fans, the UK government and other key stakeholders.

We remain committed to working with others across the football community to come up with sustainable solutions to the long-term challenges facing the game.

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/official-statement-on-man-utd-withdrawal-from-european-super-league?utm_campaign=ManUtd&utm_medium=post&utm_source=twitter

beakerjoe

pjohnson wrote: »

It was all worth it to get rid of Woodward.

Another one will take his place. Meaningless until the root of evil is dig out, The Glazers.

beakerjoe

Father Hernandez wrote: »

And hopefully the start of the Glazers.

The announcement on the website is pretty pathetic too but not surprising.



https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/official-statement-on-man-utd-withdrawal-from-european-super-league?utm_campaign=ManUtd&utm_medium=post&utm_source=twitter

Its pathetic. They should make a public apology to begin with and then sell the club.

Lord TSC

beakerjoe wrote: »

Its pathetic. They should make a public apology to begin with and then sell the club.

I’d expect more of a statement and PR spin in the next 24 hours. Seems that the meeting of clubs ended and everyone scrambled to throw out a statement of some sort, with the main instigators having less of one prepared before hand. Just had to get something out simultaneously.

I reckon we either get stories of the Glazers selling, or links to Sancho/Haaland/Ronaldo to distract us pretty quick.

Louis Friend

Be careful what we wish for.

I’d take the Glazers over the Saudis any day.

pjohnson

Lord TSC wrote: »

I’d expect more of a statement and PR spin in the next 24 hours. Seems that the meeting of clubs ended and everyone scrambled to throw out a statement of some sort, with the main instigators having less of one prepared before hand. Just had to get something out simultaneously.

I reckon we either get stories of the Glazers selling, or links to Sancho/Haaland/Ronaldo to distract us pretty quick.

Sell to Ronaldo. Break the internet.

Drumpot

Have a voicemail wishing me a happy birthday and a friend saying “I’d say thus is the best birthday ever, with Woodward getting the boot and the glazers under fire”.

It’s not just here that I complain incessantly about them. That said, I have to reflect on that, it’s not healthy.

wanderer100

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1384634579143774214?s=20

Father Hernandez

Drumpot wrote: »

Have a voicemail wishing me a happy birthday and a friend saying “I’d say thus is the best birthday ever, with Woodward getting the boot and the glazers under fire”.

It’s not just here that I complain incessantly about them. That said, I have to reflect on that, it’s not healthy.

A good day all round, Happy Birthday Drumpot.

beakerjoe

wanderer100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1384634579143774214?s=20

Hes a good lad by the looks of it

Father Hernandez

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1384635358344728578?s=20

Also very interesting, hit them where it hurts. Force them out.

Ninthlife

Good news for football in general that this proposal is dead in the water.

I expect clubs will now seek to blame execs or consultants claiming they were misguided.

The 6 involved will now want to 'win' the fans back..expect promises of big signings

BenK

I won't hear another bad word said about our Harry.

Drumpot

Father Hernandez wrote: »

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1384635358344728578?s=20

Also very interesting, hit them where it hurts. Force them out.

Hound them out and change the rules to 50+1.

Look at Bayern and Dortmund , fans chose not to join because the fans had a voice.

EltonJohn69

Poor barca

v3ttel

Pipmae wrote: »

Gary Neville on Sky now.

"Ed Woodward is the trunk of the tree. We now need to go for the roots".

Good on him.

Glad he's not weakened his sentiment on them since it became clear that the ESL was falling apart and Woodward is leaving.

A fantastic day for the club, but it's only 2 out of 3. I hope our fanbase don't settle for that.

Glazers gotta go. It's now or never.

beakerjoe

From such a dark day in Sunday to now, its been some rollercoaster and this could.... big could.... be the catalyst for positive change.

Glazers out

El Gato De Negocios

wanderer100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1384634579143774214?s=20

If true, my estimation of him as a leader has increased 10 fold.

#welldoneharry

malinheader

According to sky. Manchester United state they withdrew after listening to fans and government.
What total horse siht.

Woodward going is brilliant but only the first step, I said yesterday what I thought about him being sacrificed.
The premier league, fifa and UEFA must have the balls now to punish the real culprits. This is the problem they have now, how do you punish the scumbags of owners without punishing the players.

GLAZIERS OUT.

kerplun k

malinheader wrote: »

According to sky. Manchester United state they withdrew after listening to fans and government.
What total horse siht.

Woodward going is brilliant but only the first step, I said yesterday what I thought about him being sacrificed.
The premier league, fifa and UEFA must have the balls now to punish the real culprits. This is the problem they have now, how do you punish the scumbags of owners without punishing the players.

GLAZIERS OUT.

That’s it.
There’s no scenario where you punish the owners without it adversely effecting the club.

Kerrydude1981

Its a lovely morning folks,

Super League is dead and buried and Ed Woodward is stepping down

Now punish the owners

paulbok

kerplun k wrote: »

That’s it.
There’s no scenario where you punish the owners without it adversely effecting the club.

Could they declare all individuals involved as an unfit person to be involved in running a club?

S.M.B.

Just seen the press release from the ESL itself saying they will continue to look at reforming European football.

It feels to me like it was the semi - closed nature of the league and the potential of it being a stepping stone for further undesirable change that really was the deal breaker for most fans and players.

Trigger

paulbok wrote: »

Could they declare all individuals involved as an unfit person to be involved in running a club?

I think they have very specific rules around that so not sure they can do that. They definitely need to be punished in some way.

The FA won't want to be seen punishing clubs in general as basically they would be punishing the players who fought back for them in that case.

I'm really not sure how they will move forward here, it will be interesting to see

Elwood_Blues

S.M.B. wrote: »

Just seen the press release from the ESL itself saying they will continue to look at reforming European football.

It feels to me like it was the semi - closed nature of the league and the potential of it being a stepping stone for further undesirable change that really was the deal breaker.

Would be a bit funny if Everton, West Ham, Newcastle, Villa, Leicester and Leeds announced they were now in talks to join instead.

LuckyGent88

So do we expect a similar video apology from a Glazier?? I highly doubt it.

Absolute nonsense from Henry anyway to the Pool supporters.

Father Hernandez

https://twitter.com/lfc/status/1384763846557147142?s=21

What time is Joel’s apology video being released does anyone know?

Kerrydude1981

I hope the pool fans dont fall for this BS of a message

namloc1980

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

I hope the pool fans dont fall for this BS of a message

Some of them are. Jumping through mental hoops to justify this.

Trigger

Mod: Lets nip this in the bud now and leave discussion of what opposition fans are doing at the door please, and keep this thread on the topic
of Manchester United

Father Hernandez

https://twitter.com/HarryMaguire93/status/1384760309144031233?s=20

Gone up massively in my book the last couple days. Big game Sunday.

El Gato De Negocios

Hard to know if any punishment will come, punishing the owners financially with fines for example will just result in money being siphoned from the clubs.

At best, the FA will update their contracts prohibiting forming of breakaway leagues or competitions without due process.

namloc1980

El Gato De Negocios wrote: »

Hard to know if any punishment will come, punishing the owners financially with fines for example will just result in money being siphoned from the clubs.

At best, the FA will update their contracts prohibiting forming of breakaway leagues or competitions without due process.

That's already a rule in the Premier League rulebook. Clubs can't play in any competitions outside the UEFA competitions, Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup.

Trigger

Father Hernandez wrote: »

https://twitter.com/HarryMaguire93/status/1384760309144031233?s=20

Gone up massively in my book the last couple days. Big game Sunday.

For me also, has really come out of all this looking like a leader in the dressing room. Shaw too..

I'm not going to say that about Fernandes as we all know that about him.

beakerjoe

Id love to see a Glazer apology though.... for laughs.

billyhead

It's gas though. If this was properly planned it may have been a runner i.e engaging with all stakeholders on the proposal. A proper consultation process. It was the rushing through and the decision to just go with it that was the downfall. It should be used as a lesson learned as to how not to implement a project or programme. I don't think we have heard the end of it though. A ESL is inevitable.

Mitch Connor

namloc1980 wrote: »

That's already a rule in the Premier League rulebook. Clubs can't play in any competitions outside the UEFA competitions, Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup.

I believe they can - but they can't do so without prior agreement/consent.

namloc1980

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I believe they can - but they can't do so without prior agreement/consent.

Which they didn't have here but attempted to do it anyway.

Mitch Connor

I think it is going to be a massively interesting few months for United.

With the collapse of the ESL and Woodward announcing he is stepping down (and was planning to, which I do believe is the case) I think we are going to see the club sold.

I think the Glazers will be actively looking to sell the club, with the sale and transition being the priority of Woodward before stepping down, with the new CEO being put in place by the new owners, whomever they turn out to be.

I also think there is a good chance Glazers would have sold if the ESL had gone through, but for a lot more than they will get now - but either way I don't see Glazers sticking around. they aren't in it to win or for prestige, and I don't think there is another scenario in the near future that could see a value bump like the ESL would have been.

No point in me speculating who the new owners could be, I have zero idea, but despite the numbers that will be needed I do think there will be plenty of interest in United.

Mitch Connor

namloc1980 wrote: »

Which they didn't have here but attempted to do it anyway.

Well yes and no.

They didn't have agreement. but they had also not played in the ESL.

Their plan would have been to get agreement from all parties in the end, becuase the ESL couldn't exist without that agreement.

They would not have played in the ESL without that agreement.

billyhead

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think it is going to be a massively interesting few months for United.

With the collapse of the ESL and Woodward announcing he is stepping down (and was planning to, which I do believe is the case) I think we are going to see the club sold.

I think the Glazers will be actively looking to sell the club, with the sale and transition being the priority of Woodward before stepping down, with the new CEO being put in place by the new owners, whomever they turn out to be.

I also think there is a good chance Glazers would have sold if the ESL had gone through, but for a lot more than they will get now - but either way I don't see Glazers sticking around. they aren't in it to win or for prestige, and I don't think there is another scenario in the near future that could see a value bump like the ESL would have been.

No point in me speculating who the new owners could be, I have zero idea, but despite the numbers that will be needed I do think there will be plenty of interest in United.

Ortega family perhaps?

loyatemu

beakerjoe wrote: »

I see Henry has apologised. I hope Pool fans see him for what he really is.

Id love to see a Glazer apology though.... for laughs.

the Arsenal statement also contained an apology - it's not much but it's more than United's did.

Ceferin was sounding conciliatory yesterday so there may not be any punishment, but expect to see a tightening up on the rules so clubs can be punished/expelled immediately the next time something like this comes up.

what a farce this has been.