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Ninthlife

Kick off delayed with no revised time according to BBC

Did you smash it

beakerjoe wrote: »

Im saying its right, but violence gets results. People never take notice unless things get violent.

Look at the water protests....

Or the Russian Revolution

Dozyart

Seemingly if the game goes ahead it will be evening kick off

they need a few hours to sanitise all the touch points etc

jayo26

FourFourRED wrote: »

Potentially 2 more seasons of Edi

https://twitter.com/jonathanshrager/status/1388865914477678601?s=12

That be such a united thing to do.

Major protest at the ground and united leak news of cavani signing a new deal to try appease the crowd lol.

jamesbere

Dozyart wrote: »

Hahahahaha lets kidnap players and burn houses!! :pac:

Stealing corner flags. That's going to do it

PARlance

jayo26 wrote: »

That be such a united thing to do.

Major protest at the ground and united leak news of cavani signing a new deal to try appease the crowd lol.

After benching him

Coillte_Bhoy

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Probably the only time those lads have been in Old Trafford.

Probably been there a lot more than many of the lads on here sitting at home watching on TV and tut tutting about this behaviour. Fair play to them

Dozyart

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Probably been there a lot more than many of the lads on here sitting at home watching on TV and tut tutting and cheering on this behaviour. Fair play to them

Fixed your post in the interest of fairness

LuckyLloyd

Have to say fair play to the Utd fans here. Bit of backbone. Good to see. Getting the game cancelled would be a nice little victory and very clear message.

FourFourRED

New time to be announced at 4pm apparently.

beakerjoe

I hope no one gets hurt, but this is sadly the only way to get higher ups to pay attention.

Actions like this will at least grab the attention of the FA, The Government and hopefully Joel n Co.

If its just a peaceful protest outside, no one gives a ****.

Dozyart

Seemingly an air ambulance has landed at Old Trafford!

FourFourRED

beakerjoe wrote: »

I hope no one gets hurt, but this is sadly the only way to get higher ups to pay attention.

Actions like this will at least grab the attention of the FA, The Government and hopefully Joel n Co.

If its just a peaceful protest outside, no one gives a ****.

I don’t think anyone has been hurt. The stewards held the gates (the ones at the foot of the steps) open for them to get onto the pitch from what I’ve seen on Twitter.

There’s been no issue with police that I’ve seen either. Looks a lot more peaceful than violent to me anyway.

StringerBell

FourFourRED wrote: »

The fans have turned out in massive numbers to protest. Not everyone will get it, I understand that.

So is it that you can't put the statement into words or what?

FourFourRED

StringerBell wrote: »

So is it that you can't put the statement into words or what?

You don’t think that what’s happened today has made any statement at all?

beakerjoe

FourFourRED wrote: »

I don’t think anyone has been hurt. The stewards held the gates (the ones at the foot of the steps) open for them to get onto the pitch from what I’ve seen on Twitter.

There’s been no issue with police that I’ve seen either. Looks a lot more peaceful than violent to me anyway.

At the very least, its an effective protest.

I personally don't mind if we forfeit the points. A small price to pay.

pjohnson

I guess its a novelty way to make sure the players are rested for the Europa League. Just get the remaining League games cancelled lol.

beakerjoe

pjohnson wrote: »

I guess its a novelty way to make sure the players are rested for the Europa League. Just get the remaining League games cancelled lol.

The only available window to play is the FA Cup final date

Dozyart

beakerjoe wrote: »

I personally don't mind if we forfeit the points. A small price to pay.

I dont either,I just think it could have been achieved without going into the stadium

PARlance

Delayed game and the win would be ideal.

PARlance

Dozyart wrote: »

I dont either,I just think it could have been achieved without going into the stadium

Pretty damming of the (lack of) security really, to have it done twice!

StringerBell

FourFourRED wrote: »

You don’t think that what’s happened today has made any statement at all?

You said it's made a massive statement, I'm simply asking you to put the statement into words. What does it mean to you?

Dozyart

PARlance wrote: »

Pretty damming of the (lack of) security really, to have it done twice!

This also true,I've seen some memes of it already relating to ISIS watching how easy it was to get in :pac::pac::pac::pac:

StringerBell

PARlance wrote: »

Pretty damming of the (lack of) security really, to have it done twice!

Yes!

Drumpot

StringerBell wrote: »

So is it that you can't put the statement into words or what?

Statement is very simple, they want the Glazers out


Groundsmen , players and manager are not the real concern to anybody here, that’s a disingenuous sentiment to profess. People just don’t want their Sunday afternoon game upset and are making up reasons why their motives aren’t driven by what they want.

Ninthlife

beakerjoe wrote: »

At the very least, its an effective protest.

I personally don't mind if we forfeit the points. A small price to pay.

Dont agree wity being ok forfeiting points as it can affect league position so youre punishing the players and staff who worked hard to acheive the points and position

Dozyart

Drumpot wrote: »

People just don’t want their Sunday afternoon game upset and are making up reasons why their motives aren’t driven by what they want.

lol

adox

Fair fùcks to them. Hopefully other clubs will follow.

StringerBell

Drumpot wrote: »

Statement is very simple, they want the Glazers out


Groundsmen , players and manager are not the real concern to anybody here, that’s a disingenuous sentiment to profess. People just don’t want their Sunday afternoon game upset and are making up reasons why their motives aren’t driven by what they want.

Is it okay if I discuss it with you after the other poster that I asked? I'm not really sure I'm best placed to actually respond to yours really as I haven't professed anything either way re groundsmen, players, managers, trophy cabinets, statues, tea pots or anything else that may pop up.

Headshot

Good old Souness

My hatred for him cannot be measured

Drumpot

Excellent, Neville, Carragher and Keane focusing on the Glazers.

Lord TSC

Drumpot wrote: »

Excellent, Neville, Carragher and Keane focusing on the Glazers.

Very, very happy with their response.

beakerjoe

Ninthlife wrote: »

Dont agree wity being ok forfeiting points as it can affect league position so youre punishing the players and staff who worked hard to acheive the points and position

If it helps our club to rid itself of the Glazers.... its totally worth it.

Joel wont give a rats ass either way. So its a moot point.

But if you dont shoot ya will never score.

PARlance

Surprised Souness hasn't blamed Pogba yet... I'm sure it's coming.

jayo26

Souness is a disgrace, never heard such crap.

BenK

Not for the first time Souness talking absolute muck. If you don't know anything about the Glazers don't talk about them.

beakerjoe

“It’s been a peaceful protest in the stadium, I’m not sure about outside. They’re very unhappy at how they’ve been treated, and how the Glazers have taken money out of the club. It’s heightened by what’s happening with the Super League. Yes, we want to see a game of football, and we don’t want any trouble, but I can’t stand here and have a go at Manchester United supporters. My own supporters at Liverpool were doing things 10 or 15 years ago to get Hicks and Gillett out of the club. Whether it will happen with the Glazers, who knows, but as long as it’s peaceful I won’t have a go at any Man Utd fans.”

Jaime has hit the right tone here.

StringerBell

Headshot wrote: »

Good old Souness

My hatred for him cannot be measured

I agree with your sentiment completely, but I would say he ain't wrong on the glazers. They do not give a flying **** about what anybody thanks of them, they also don't even live in the country so the actual blowback they will experience is pretty minimal.

They were **** NFL owners before they were **** EPL owners but one thing has always remained consistent with them if you pay attention to their history, they simply do not give a **** and they will not leave before they are ready. The glazers bread and butter is not the match day fan, they do not care. I don't know how to say that any clearer.

I hope they will go asap but I think it's being overestimated the difference fan protests will make to them. The bottom line is what counts, maybe if they had got the Europa League game called off? Would have drawn more attention I guess and hit the pocket potentially?

FourFourRED

StringerBell wrote: »

You said it's made a massive statement, I'm simply asking you to put the statement into words. What does it mean to you?

Give me a break Souness. You should know exactly what it means.

Drumpot

StringerBell wrote: »

Is it okay if I discuss it with you after the other poster that I asked? I'm not really sure I'm best placed to actually respond to yours really as I haven't professed anything either way re groundsmen, players, managers, trophy cabinets, statues, tea pots or anything else that may pop up.

The first paragraph was for you.

The second paragraph was a response to anybody who might be trying to pretend that their disappointment to these events are anything other then them just not wanting to be inconvenienced.

jayo26

Good man Gary

StringerBell

Fair play to the protestors also for not turning into a violent angry mob. That was important.

Mantis Toboggan

These "fans" protesting outside the teams hotel before a Liverpool game are almost as bad as Pogba's agents comments prior to the Red Bull game.

FourFourRED

jayo26 wrote: »

Good man Gary

Even Carragher is speaking sense about it too.

jamesbere

StringerBell wrote: »

Fair play to the protestors also for not turning into a violent angry mob. That was important.

Thankfully it didn't turn that way. Interesting to see the reaction now. If the glazers care or not will be soon seen.

StringerBell

FourFourRED wrote: »

Give me a break Souness. You should know exactly what it means.

I actually find it hilarious you can't put it into words and continue to flail like a child having a tantrum rather than just discuss your point of view but fair enough, I've tried.

I know exactly what the statement means to me, you don't seem to be able to put into words what it means to you and resort to (presumably) insults. We can leave it at that I suppose.

Dozyart

Drumpot wrote: »

The first paragraph was for you.

The second paragraph was a response to anybody who might be trying to pretend that their disappointment to these events are anything other then them just not wanting to be inconvenienced.

This is absolute w@nk :pac::pac::pac:

Anyone who doesnt agree with the stadium being broken into,balls and flags being stolen and at least one tv camera going for dive just wants the game to happen?

There cant just be any other reason!!

Headshot

If the game isnt going to be canceled the delay is the next best thing.

It's been a good day for utd fans, Im proud of our fans today but we cannot let just be for today but with every home game we need a constant protest

StringerBell

Drumpot wrote: »

The first paragraph was for you.

The second paragraph was a response to anybody who might be trying to pretend that their disappointment to these events are anything other then them just not wanting to be inconvenienced.

Cheers, I asked the other guy though what it meant to him as he said a massive statement was made today so happy enough to get yours, just wasn't the one I was looking for.

As the second part doesn't apply to me I was probably right in that I can't do much with the post

StringerBell

Headshot wrote: »

If the game isnt going to be canceled the delay is the next best thing.

It's been a good day for utd fans, Im proud of our fans today but we cannot let just be for today but with every home game we need a constant protest

It should have started at the Roma game is my thinking on that.

Delayed kick off is good for the purpose of the protest, affects TV stations and takes up media time which generates pr globally. Which is why it's been very important it hasn't turned into some kind of riot and has been a peaceful protest, very happy with that.