All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam McCarthy Cup) 2021

ArielAtom

Limerick are just so much better than Cork, it’s a pleasure to watch. The reaction by some posters to them being over physical is comical at best. It’s a physical sport, deal with.

MisterAnarchy

ArielAtom wrote: »

Limerick are just so much better than Cork, it’s a pleasure to watch. The reaction by some posters to them being over physical is comical at best. It’s a physical sport, deal with.

There is a big difference between being physical and clothes lines, butts of the hurley to the head and wild swings at head height.

No need at all for that sort of dirt.

ArielAtom

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

There is a big difference between being physical and clothes lines, butts of the hurley to the head and wild swings at head height.

No need at all for that sort of dirt.

I haven’t seen that. Poor performance by opposition normally leads to online bitching. I wouldn’t read much into the thanks you’ve received to your post either��

formerlyET

ArielAtom wrote: »

I haven’t seen that. Poor performance by opposition normally leads to online bitching.

You'll be getting the red card the way you're going on

magic17

Time for Hoggy to call it a day, a year too far for him. Dreadful performance

formerlyET

Horgan has let Cork down today.

LuckyGent88

formerlyET wrote: »

Horgan has let Cork down today.

Very uncharacteristic in fairness. Couple of unrealistic point attempts imo.

castletownman

magic17 wrote: »

Time for Hoggy to call it a day, a year too far for him. Dreadful performance

Always felt he is over-rated anyway.

Not in the same bracket as the true greats of his era.

formerlyET

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Very uncharacteristic in fairness. Couple of unrealistic point attempts imo.

Uncharacteristic, for sure.

LuckyGent88

Cork doing all the hurling but getting no scores. Not taking the frees either.

Poor game really.

Pogue eile

Limerick have been very poor really, Cork not composed enough to take advantage of it.

Fred Astaire

Limerick have left the door wide open for Cork for the last 15 minutes and Cork are not good enough to go through it.

LuckyGent88

Cork have ultimately thrown this away. Bart load of wides, missed pen and unlucky on first Limerick goal

formerlyET

I don't know - I think if Cork got a goal Limerick would go up and get another. Limerick are playing within themselves. Every time Cork have done something they've had a response.

JeffKenna

Very strange booking

4Ad

How is that a Cork free ??

Hococop

Poor call

Fred Astaire

This was surely as bad as Limerick will be all season - a 17/18 minute patch there in the 2nd half where they couldn't do anything right - and Cork couldn't get anywhere near them.

Cork are a country mile off the standard.

MisterAnarchy

Limerick were there for the taking but yet again Cork lost their heads.

LuckyGent88

Not sure Limerick will play that poor again this year. Cork got a lot right in terms of match ups but ultimately didn’t take any of their chances and never had the belief that they would win the game.

castletownman

The evolution of Cork hurling is amazing.

They have gone from being the hardest team to beat and the standard bearers in terms of All Ireland wins, to a spineless outfit full of bluster but no bottle.

ArielAtom

Delighted with that, all the better to witness the amount of whinging here. The counties behind the curve and that includes mine need to step up, very simple really. Stop looking for excuses. Focus on your own counties inabilities and sort them out. Congrats Limerick.

Rosita

castletownman wrote: »

The evolution of Cork hurling is amazing.

They have gone from being the hardest team to beat .

When was this?

tranquilo

My God the Limerick bashing has already started only one game in. The usual bitterness on display. Didn't play that well and still won by 8 points. Subs brought a lot of energy when they came on at the end. If they win the all ireland I can't imagine the sourness that will be on display in here! What a team, a joy to watch them when they get going

zetecescort

Rosita wrote: »

When was this?

1978

Speak Now

Rosita wrote: »

When was this?

2004/05 I guess, actually hard to believe they have only 3 Liam MacCarthys in the last 30 years.

threeball

Standard of the championship apart from kk v wexford has been very poor. Hard to read anything into any of it.

billyhead

Sign of a good team when winning without playing well. We have plenty to improve on for to the Munster Final.

Rosita

Speak Now wrote: »

2004/05 I guess, actually hard to believe they have only 3 Liam MacCarthys in the last 30 years.

Waterford beat them in 2004.

Rosita

threeball wrote: »

Standard of the championship apart from kk v wexford has been very poor. Hard to read anything into any of it.

If that has been the highest standard you could read into it that Kilkenny is the best team.

castletownman

Rosita wrote: »

When was this?

Pretty much their entire history to be fair, apart from the last decade and a half when they have gone to the dogs.

JeffKenna

Fred Astaire wrote: »

What are you babbling on about?

Cringeworthy, embarrassing stuff.

A troll

Rosita

castletownman wrote: »

Pretty much their entire history to be fair, apart from the last decade and a half when they have gone to the dogs.

Can't say I remember their entire history but their record in the past 30 years (as someone said 3 All Irelands) wouldn't suggest they were the hardest team to beat. Not sure anything beyond that is relevant really. Who even remembers that?

supernova5

does anyone know what the Limerick wide total was today?
must surely have been well over 20

supernova5

supernova5 wrote: »

does anyone know what the Limerick wide total was today?
must surely have been well over 20

20 on the button

Munsterbhoy

supernova5 wrote: »

does anyone know what the Limerick wide total was today?
must surely have been well over 20

Rte gave limerick 20 wides.

PTH2009

Hoping the qualifiers will be used as 'Trial events'

Reckon it will still be hard to get tickets

formerlyET

The qualifiers will be something else. Some mouth watering battles about to happen there.

Got caught up in Davy's tactics today, but congrats to both teams, served up a humdinger.

Niallers87

So if its the winners of laois and antrim versus one of Waterford/galway and wexford, there is going to be one big team exiting early this year??? Do i have that right!?

PTH2009

Antrim vs Laois in the PR round next weekend

1 Munster Semi Finalist and 1 Leinster Semi finalist will get a bye into Round 2

1st round will involve Antrim/Laois and either Galway/Wexford vs Waterford or Cork/Tipperary/Clare

Spanish Johnny

Any indication when the first draw is?

MfMan

castletownman wrote: »

Always felt he is over-rated anyway.

Not in the same bracket as the true greats of his era.

Maybe not, but he's been far and away Cork's best forward for a decade. Unfair to single him out, just like Joe Canning, for one bad evening.

Girly Gal

formerlyET wrote: »

The qualifiers will be something else. Some mouth watering battles about to happen there.

Got caught up in Davy's tactics today, but congrats to both teams, served up a humdinger.

It should be straight knockout this year like the football, all the teams that lost today should be out of the championship now, none of them are going to win the All Ireland anyway or get near it.

purplepanda

How can the Liam Ryan "point" have actually even gone completely over the bar when Eoin Murphy batted the ball when his Hurl was actually located in front of the bar?

How does the ball cross over for a point yet Murphy can still bat the ball away from this position, his Hurl would be at a sharp angle to the bar to achieve this.

He's holding his Hurl straight & does a straight jump in front of the bar to catch the ball, if he was underneath his hurl would have hit the bar.

Maybe Murphy has a bendable Hurl that jumps over the bar to bat the ball?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=395216498575088

formerlyET

purplepanda wrote: »

How can the Liam Ryan "point" have actually even gone completely over the bar when Eoin Murphy batted the ball when his Hurl was actually located in front of the bar?

How does the ball cross over for a point yet Murphy can still bat the ball away from this position, his Hurl would be at a sharp angle to the bar to achieve this.

He's holding his Hurl straight & does a straight jump in front of the bar to catch the ball, if he was underneath his hurl would have hit the bar.

Maybe Murphy has a bendable Hurl that jumps over the bar to bat the ball?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=395216498575088

A hurley goes backwards before it goes forwards... - so when the hurl made contact with the ball, it was behind the bar. Both the umpire and Hawkeye called a point. The umpire didn't even hesitate.

washman3

magic17 wrote: »

Time for Hoggy to call it a day, a year too far for him. Dreadful performance

formerlyET wrote: »

Horgan has let Cork down today.

formerlyET wrote: »

A hurley goes backwards before it goes forwards... - so when the hurl made contact with the ball, it was behind the bar. Both the umpire and Hawkeye called a point. The umpire didn't even hesitate.

Correct call ET.
Remember the same happened with Tipp keeper Brian Hogan.

But lads, that's very harsh on Hoggie. Cork's best player over the last decade. The teams he's played on are nowhere near the Cork teams of old. As a Limerickman there is hardly a player I would like to see more winning a Celtic Cross before he retires. Met him briefly once and he comes across as a down to earth decent skin.
His record speaks for itself. Remember, he could easily have walked away 1 or 2 years ago.

BQQ

purplepanda wrote: »

How can the Liam Ryan "point" have actually even gone completely over the bar when Eoin Murphy batted the ball when his Hurl was actually located in front of the bar?

How does the ball cross over for a point yet Murphy can still bat the ball away from this position, his Hurl would be at a sharp angle to the bar to achieve this.

He's holding his Hurl straight & does a straight jump in front of the bar to catch the ball, if he was underneath his hurl would have hit the bar.

Maybe Murphy has a bendable Hurl that jumps over the bar to bat the ball?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=395216498575088

A case of purple and gold tinted glasses?

The video clip you provided completely contradicts your description.
Look, the umpire went straight for the white flag.
If you don't believe him, then Hawkeye says it's a point too.
If you don't believe that either, what's your solution?
Another referee? And if he says it's a point too, then VAR, and if that says it's a point, something else and so on until someone says Wexford won?

purplepanda

He's virtually standing on the line when he jumps, I can't see how he would strike the ball outwards after a point has crossed the bar without holding his Hurl at an angle.

As he is positioned on the line, jumping up straight, arms straight up, with his Hurl held straight, how does he bat a ball that has already supposedly gone over the bar for a point.

Freeze framing the playback shows he doesn't have his Hurl at an angle where he could clear the ball back out after the ball goes over the bar.

I'm not calling for a replay or any stewards inquiry, but I'm just not at all convinced the ball went over for a point & then he batted it back out!

formerlyET

The problem comes with how ridiculous the image is that Hawkeye uses.

But when an umpire has no hesitation and Hawkeye concludes - that's the two options covered. End of story.

I can't see what you're suggesting.

If you have a freeze-frame of Murphy, holding a straight hurley up without backswing, that doesn't go beyond the bar - show it to me. Otherwise, it's just a trick of the mind.

formerlyET

Girly Gal wrote: »

It should be straight knockout this year like the football, all the teams that lost today should be out of the championship now, none of them are going to win the All Ireland anyway or get near it.

We don't know that. All-Ireland winners have come through the backdoor before.