All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam McCarthy Cup) 2021

martingriff

malistheman wrote: »

Owens will give Clare something soft to even it up surely. Will probably be discussed among the officials at water break

He thinks it was the correct decision

Clareman

That's in the D, by his rule that's a penalty

dirkmeister

That’s more of a goal scoring opportunity than Tipp’s one.

martingriff

Goal chance he could have ran at goal where is our penalty

Clareman

malistheman wrote: »

Clare keeper has been fantastic even allowing for a mistake for the goal.

He fouled the ball for a free (which was scored) and the resulting puck out went straight to Tipp who got a goal directly from it, so that's 1-1, he also let in a silly goal so that's 2-1 he's at fault for.

Clareman

That has to be a yellow on Barrett

Clareman

That's as clear a yellow as you'll see but not given

awaywithyou

How much has James Owens on Tipp to win.. must be substantial

GoldFour4

Clareman wrote: »

He fouled the ball for a free (which was scored) and the resulting puck out went straight to Tipp who got a goal directly from it, so that's 1-1, he also let in a silly goal so that's 2-1 he's at fault for.

Sorry yeah - some good saves made though

Speakerboxx

The referee is wearing a Tipp Jersey.

Clareman

malistheman wrote: »

Sorry yeah - some good saves made though

Yeah, who'd be a goalie

Mantis Toboggan

Clare going for scores from crazy angles

Clareman

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Clare going for scores from crazy angles

Yeah, some silly shots, game seems to have finished, there's no bite there anymore.

External Association

The arse has fallen out of Clare since the penalty. Such fine margins.

That reffing decision was beyond bad, even beyond atrocious.

I can't remember such a decision in any sport.

Clareman

Surely that was a foul in the square for a goal scoring opportunity but he left advantage

Clareman

External Association wrote: »

The arse has fallen out of Clare since the penalty. Such fine margins.

That reffing decision was beyond bad, even beyond atrocious.

I can't remember such a decision in any sport.

Totally changed the game, deflated Clare completely, Tipp having the extra man meant we were just holding on, the goal then destroyed it, 2 goals in 10 minutes.

GoldFour4

Amongst everything else.. Tony Kelly has been very quiet. (Cue a couple of last minute goals)

Clareman

malistheman wrote: »

Amongst everything else.. Tony Kelly has been very quiet. (Cue a couple of last minute goals)

Tipp have done well to man mark him BUT Barrett should have gotten a second yellow, yes the first yellow was harsh, but he should have gotten a second.

External Association

FFS Owens

sligeach

How is that not a Clare penalty?

The ref is nothing else if not consistent... Consistently BAD!

Clareman

How is that not a penalty

Clareman

Owens is a disgrace, I don't like to pick on refs but that's a disgracefully performance.

breezy1985

Clareman wrote: »

How is that not a penalty

Because the Clare man starts the hugging

dmc17

Afraid if he gave that one he still might not collect his bet

SunnySundays

More of a penalty than the one given!!!!!!!

Clareman

breezy1985 wrote: »

Because the Clare man starts the hugging

Then it's a free out

Swaine

Ref is lucky Davy Fitz isn't Clare manager.

He has absolutely screwed Clare.

Realt Dearg Sec

Worst refereeing decision (and overall worst refereeing performance, how is Barrett stop on the field?) I've ever seen, and that's not for a want of competition.

Worst of it is that is a good new rule but this will be serious ammunition for getting rid of it on grounds that a goal scoring opportunity is too open to interpretation (I mean, technically every time you have the ball outside your own 45 is a goal scoring opportunity).

Anyway it ruined this match and Owens shouldn't still be an inter county referee tomorrow. But he will be.

sligeach

That ref should have the rest of the summer off.

breezy1985

Clareman wrote: »

Then it's a free out

Probably decided it was 50/50 and both were at it and let play ho on or played advantage. Who knows

threeball

Clareman wrote: »

Owens is a disgrace, I don't like to pick on refs but that's a disgracefully performance.

He should have some serious questions to answer after this. The ridiculous penalty that was given and the one that wasn't. Poor poor performance from Owens.

Speakerboxx

That ref should never again ref. Disgrace.

Mantis Toboggan

Impressed with clare really gave it everything and on another day could easily have won.

giveitholly

Speakerboxx wrote: »

That ref should never again ref. Disgrace.

Bar the penalty call what did he get wrong?

corner back 2

Sad to see a game at this level so obviously reffed one way and the ref deciding the game instead of the two teams on the field.

threeball

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Worst refereeing decision (and overall worst refereeing performance, how is Barrett stop on the field?) I've ever seen, and that's not for a want of competition.

Worst of it is that is a good new rule but this will be serious ammunition for getting rid of it on grounds that a goal scoring opportunity is too open to interpretation (I mean, technically every time you have the ball outside your own 45 is a goal scoring opportunity).

Anyway it ruined this match and Owens shouldn't still be an inter county referee tomorrow. But he will be.

Its too open when you say inside the 21. They should have extended the D and that should be the zone. Calling a penalty for a foul on the sideline is ridiculous unless there's 3 unmarked tipp players on the edge of the square

Swamp_Cat

Clareman wrote: »

Totally changed the game, deflated Clare completely, Tipp having the extra man meant we were just holding on, the goal then destroyed it, 2 goals in 10 minutes.

Only way Tipp were going to win. Yet another boring, pathetic game from the Munster championship. Bar a few decent matches, it's got to be the least entertaining comp going.

Tipp absolutely were handed that "win". Nobody's gonna fear them.

LuckyGent88

Regardless of that stupid decision, we completely lost our shape and way we wanted to play in that second half. Got dominated on the ball and Tipp created more space with bringing players out to get free and get easy scores.

4 points in it in the end and we were screwed by a ref and also played poor in second half.

I see sheep

What a farce ... Hard for Clare when Tipp's MOTM is the ref. That joke yellow ruined the match

Swamp_Cat

giveitholly wrote: »

Bar the penalty call what did he get wrong?

Have you been watching?

breezy1985

giveitholly wrote: »

Bar the penalty call what did he get wrong?

He didn't make Clare win

Fred Astaire

Swamp_Cat wrote: »

Only way Tipp were going to win. Yet another boring, pathetic game from the Munster championship. Bar a few decent matches, it's got to be the least entertaining comp going.

Tipp absolutely were handed that "win". Nobody's gonna fear them.

HAHA.


Christ - Tipp were well capable of beating Clare without the penalty.

External Association

breezy1985 wrote: »

Probably decided it was 50/50 and both were at it and let play ho on or played advantage. Who knows

Clare player was trying to move towards the ball and was being held and wrapped. Clear Clare penalty.

giveitholly

Swamp_Cat wrote: »

Have you been watching?

Yeah of course that is why I am asking

Clareman

breezy1985 wrote: »

Probably decided it was 50/50 and both were at it and let play ho on or played advantage. Who knows

The Tipp player was on his knees with his back to the ball and his arms wrapped around the Clare player, that's a foul, not a 50/50. If he didn't give it because he felt the Clare player fouled first then it's a free out, there's no advantage where you can foul and play the ball.

corner back 2

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Regardless of that stupid decision, we completely lost our shape and way we wanted to play in that second half. Got dominated on the ball and Tipp created more space with bringing players out to get free and get easy scores.

4 points in it in the end and we were screwed by a ref and also played poor in second half.

Proves there was nothing between the teams. A 6 point swing on the basis of two incorrect penalty decisions and Tipp should have played with 14 for last 10 minutes.

threeball

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Regardless of that stupid decision, we completely lost our shape and way we wanted to play in that second half. Got dominated on the ball and Tipp created more space with bringing players out to get free and get easy scores.

4 points in it in the end and we were screwed by a ref and also played poor in second half.

You're carrying Shanagher too. Hes doing little to nothing inside. Barely gets off the ground for ball and chases nothing. Your worst forward by far

breezy1985

Clareman wrote: »

The Tipp player was on his knees with his back to the ball and his arms wrapped around the Clare player, that's a foul, not a 50/50. If he didn't give it because he felt the Clare player fouled first then it's a free out, there's no advantage where you can foul and play the ball.

If it was me ide be giving a free out. I can only guess at what he was thinking

Jizique

Clareman wrote: »

Absolutely, yellow card all day, no question on that front, it was not a goal scoring chance though.

Scored 2-4 without reply in the ten mins, went 8 points up;
In fairness, Clare put a lot of balls into the Tipp keeper’s hands

Clareman

Jizique wrote: »

Scored 2-4 without reply in the ten mins, went 8 points up;
In fairness, Clare put a lot of balls into the Tipp keeper’s hands

Yeah, they had to only have 1 player in the full forward line so a lot of wasted ball.