All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam McCarthy Cup) 2021

PTH2009

Off topic but why is Michael Duignan here when Offaly are playing in the Championship ? taking the RTE pay id say

LuckyGent88

Dominating but poor wides and poor use of ball also. Good aggression and work rate though from Clare at least

Rasputin11

PTH2009 wrote: »

Off topic but why is Michael Duignan here when Offaly are playing in the Championship ? taking the RTE pay id say

I think it's his living, don't think he has a regular job.

TheMilkyPirate

Rosita wrote: »

I'm on about the same thing as you. Just have a different interpretation. Provocative isn't it?

So they didn't play well then is what your saying? 5-28 from play 13 different scorers.. go have a lie down for yourself.

Akrasia

I hope we won't regret these wides later

Mantis Toboggan

Clare should be much further ahead with a biggish wind advantage.

PTH2009

Darragh Lyons having a nightmare

Great impact sub but not starter

PTH2009

Goalkeeper a joke there, didn't even make an effort to save it

IanVW

PTH2009 wrote: »

Goalkeeper a joke there, didn't even make an effort to save it

Unsavable

Pogue eile

Jaysus if Shanagher had of turned up Clare would be out of sight, if he continues to get supply he will surely get going

formerlyET

Big wind in it?

BENDYBINN

Poor game...hard to watch..q

tranquilo

If Clare's finishing was better they would be +15 up here. Waterford need to wake up

Pogue eile

formerlyET wrote: »

Big wind in it?

There is a decent breeze, but to be honest it is having no effect on the game, Waterford are miles off it and Clare have been wastefull.

killbillvol2

PTH2009 wrote: »

Goalkeeper a joke there, didn't even make an effort to save it

Tell us, what would you have done?

formerlyET

Whatever happens in this game, all credit to Brian Lohan. He has uncovered some young gems who are really playing for him.

Poor Shanagher is not a natural forward - but he is a handful.

formerlyET

Pogue eile wrote: »

There is a decent breeze, but to be honest it is having no effect on the game, Waterford are miles off it and Clare have been wastefull.

I think there's a swirl to it. A lot of shots tailing away.

PTH2009

Fair play to Clare but Waterford are a disaster today and it would take a miracle to get back into this game

Suppose we will have time to rebuild for the Qualifier's and hope we get a kind draw

Boom__Boom

Rasputin11 wrote: »

I think it's his living, don't think he has a regular job.

Should definitely be doing better at his job.
He was saying that he didn't think it was a clear-cut goal chance for the penalty/sin bin.

The wording of the rule is "a goal-scoring chance" - there's no mention of it having to be clear cut and I'd argue that they can be a serious difference between a clear-cut goal chance and a goal chance.

For me a clear-cut goal chance is something that has over 75%/80% of being scored, whereas a goal chance is any time there is any chance of a goal being scored no matter how remote a chance (even 1%) is still a goal chance. The way the rule is written refs are supposed to give a penalty no matter how remote the chance - if the rules committee wanted it to be only when there was a clear-cut goal chance, then they should have written the rule to reflect that.

I've seen other pundits/commentators mention this "clear-cut" interpretation of the rule as well but someone in his position should know better.

munsterlegend

Last years championship was winter hurling. The difference being back in summer hurling is showing.

cosatron

Putting lyons on tony kelly isn't working. Waterford really miss lyons out around the middle and his not a man marker.

LuckyGent88

cosatron wrote: »

Putting lyons on tony kelly isn't working. Waterford really miss lyons out around the middle and his not a man marker.

Clever to keep Tony in the corner so they keep Lyons away from wing back and getting forward.

cosatron

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Clever to keep Tony in the corner so they keep Lyons away from wing back and getting forward.

Agreed. Lohan is doing very well on the line. Cahill is having a mire. He should push gleeson up on conlon and bring lyons out to 5

LuckyGent88

cosatron wrote: »

Agreed. Lohan is doing very well on the line. Cahill is having a mire. He should push gleeson up on conlon and bring lyons out to 5

Not much to lose now in fairness so have to take Lyons out and risk it at least.

Hopefully not for us though. Waterford will have their purple patch at some stage so we need to keep the scores ticking over.

shockframe

Waterford did fight back from a similar position in last years game v Kilkenny.

I know they are missing a few but its a very disappointing performance so far.

Clare have been solid if not spectacular

formerlyET

Shanagher gets fouled twice. Henry doesn't think it's a penalty.

Henry doesn't get the rules.

We're trying to get rid of cynical play, Henry...

martingriff

formerlyET wrote: »

Shanagher gets fouled twice. Henry doesn't think it's a penalty.

Henry doesn't get the rules.

We're trying to get rid of cynical play, Henry...

I thin k there point was (not agreeing with it) was the first foul should take precedence and that was outside the area for giving a penalty. I say a lot of people do not understand the new rules. Normally we get a full league + on a new rule

formerlyET

That kind of cynical foul by Reidy on Lyons should be carded too. This is a huge issue too - cynical play by forwards is not carded as much as cynical by backs.

formerlyET

That free should be overturned for the reaction by the clare players - silly.

spaceCreated

formerlyET wrote: »

That free should be overturned for the reaction by the clare players - silly.

What was the free for? Seemed like Lyones just knocked the sliotar off the ground and caught it again

Billy Ocean

That Rory Hayes deserves a clip anyway.

SeaFields

It's an appalling match.

Pogue eile

This is dire stuff altogether

Pogue eile

SeaFields wrote: »

It's an appalling match.

You got there before me, absolute cat!

TheRiverman

PTH2009 wrote: »

Off topic but why is Michael Duignan here when Offaly are playing in the Championship ? taking the RTE pay id say

I think it's part of his livelihood and doesn't in any way affect the great job he is doing as Chairman of Offaly County Board.

LuckyGent88

Can’t believe I could be this frustrated and annoyed at my team when we are 9 points up.

The wides are scandalous

kksaints

Real lack of quality from both teams here.

formerlyET

Wides are madness - completely giving up on the game plan - panicking.

shockframe

One of the worst games in Munster Hurling for many a year.

Other than 98 it's always been the weakest pairing in Munster really.

breezy1985

breezy1985 wrote: »

Kk, Tipp, Galway, Limk, Tipp, Limk

Smart man you think

Boom__Boom

shockframe wrote: »

One of the worst games in Munster Hurling for many a year.

Other than 98 it's always been the weakest pairing in Munster really.

60 scoring chances created between the two teams and 33 scores says it all.

blackcard

Some teams seem to have taken the decision to have pot shots from 90 yards out in the hope that half of them might go over.

formerlyET

How are Waterford only 7 behind?

LuckyGent88

formerlyET wrote: »

How are Waterford only 7 behind?

Because we want to get wides!!!

formerlyET

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Because we want to get wides!!!

Wides are where it's at.

citykat

Soft free for Kelly. His own man clipped him

PTH2009

Clare pissing about wasting time now

Boom__Boom

formerlyET wrote: »

Wides are where it's at.

Don't forget the mistakes/errors/unforced turnovers.
Game has been absolutely littered with them by both sides.

formerlyET

Tony Kelly trying to give the championship a heart attack by holding his knee

Coneygree

One of the worst Munster hurling games I've ever seen.