Considering giving up main job for side hustle.

Mongfinder General

Make hay while the sun shines. Only fans will inevitably have competition or get hit with regulations that might limit your earning power. Get as much out of it while you can. Personally, I’d keep the nursing job long term. Then again, I’ve a a great face for radio.

floorpie

Health11 wrote: »

It's bizarre some of the posts here. I don't know if it's jealousy or what. I am well aware I am in a very lucky position, and I don't think I am anything 'special' or talented.

If you were earning 1m a month people might be jealous, but nobody in the western world is jealous of 10k a month in exchange for the task here. Your 30k estimate is hypothetical at this point.

Judging by public vs private sector threads, posters here would be more jealous if you remained a staff nurse and got to top of the scale.

Re: comments on begrudgery, any comment that says quitting is a bad idea is begrudgery? She's not earning "retire early" money. It's "decent living" money and that's with the major assumption that it remains consistent, which it 100% will not. I think it's bizarre that old timers on a Jobs board are advising someone to quit a career for a hypothetical income, when she currently has both the career + the OF income.

carveone

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Good old Irish begrudgery popping into the thread. Surprised it took this long (apart from the tax man comments lol)

Lol! I was just typing a reply to herself's "It's bizarre some of the posts here" to say "you ain't seen nothing until the moral superiority brigade turn up (one of us! one of us!)"

...and then lo and behold, they turn up.

Also:
"I don't think I am anything 'special' or talented.".
Uh, yeah, at 12k per month I beg to differ :P

As an aside, a lot of sex related businesses have done really well over the term of the pandemic. Sexsiopa is probably giving Love Honey a run for their money at this stage, especially since brexit. Good for Shawna. The very high end (ie: the expensive real dolls) have been doing a lot of business. It'll be interesting to see to what extent this drops once the economy is back up. So to speak

jobless

Health11 wrote: »

It's bizarre some of the posts here. I don't know if it's jealousy or what. I am well aware I am in a very lucky position, and I don't think I am anything 'special' or talented.

Pm your link, ill let you know of you are talented haha

YellowLead

Health11 wrote: »

The lower side of things are heavily skewed by a)guys and b)those without social media c)those who dont post explicit content/don't show their face.

I am not sure what you're arguing. If you don't believe I am earning what I am earning, it makes no difference to me.

I’m not arguing with you lol, I’m merely pointing out some facts to true few thickos that are buying this BS. I couldn’t care less what you think.

But since you are engaging with me - how did you manage to get a sufficient social media presence when you are working as nurse, fair enough if somebody is unemployed they might have the time?

An hour a day isn’t enough to take pictures and respond to enough messages to make the kind of money you are claiming - what’s your answer for that lol

begbysback

ThumbTaxed wrote: »

Just think about that money when your kids friends are sharing pictures of your bits around.

Don’t think this will be as big an issue as you would imagine, nudity has come a long way since the 80s & 90s, much more common and generally acceptable, even a popular tv program where ye have to get naked. Not too far into the future mothers will be showing their kids naked selfies and the kids will be gasping “wtf people actually gave you money for these!!”

ThumbTaxed

begbysback wrote: »

Don’t think this will be as big an issue as you would imagine, nudity has come a long way since the 80s & 90s, much more common and generally acceptable, even a popular tv program where ye have to get naked. Not too far into the future mothers will be showing their kids naked selfies and the kids will be gasping “wtf people actually gave you money for these!!”

Nudity is not the same as sticking apparatus here there and everywhere for a few euro. As long as she has factored that into her decision, it is all good.

YellowLead

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/onlyfans-monica-huldt-describes-how-makes-money-2020-3%3famp

This woman is one of the sites top earners at $100k per year so less than 10k per month, and she only makes that by treating it as a full time job.

So yeah, The nurse who throws only one hour per day at it is literally one of the sites most successful creators and she is on boards asking about it. Lol!!!

floorpie

Mr.S wrote: »

It’s obviously not secure employment, but the cash is immense so I can see why they’d be conflicted.

This is not immense cash. It's good, not immense. So it's neither secure, nor immense.

I’m sure if they replaced OF with YouTube - the reaction would be far different.

As I said in my first post, the advice in distance selling communities (Fulfilment by Amazon, Ebay) is to NOT put all of your eggs onto one platform, and to NOT quit your day job, because your income can disappear permanently overnight. So the advice from me would be the same simply because of the platform risk.

begbysback wrote: »

Don’t think this will be as big an issue as you would imagine

This is a thread on a jobs board asking for employment advice and 10-20% of replies are pathetic and lecherous. If OP or other posters don't care about the reputational cost of sex work then that's up to them, but being treated like this when you're asking for serious advice is a clear example of this cost.

MrMusician18

Mr.S wrote: »

I think OP’s post is valid - I don’t think she’s gloating or trolling - she obviously started OF on the side and grew her following over time. Isn’t that the point of the forum to ask for advice?

It’s obviously not secure employment, but the cash is immense so I can see why they’d be conflicted. They are also likely not used to this level of an income, even more reason to ask for advice.

I’m sure if they replaced OF with YouTube - the reaction would be far different.

If you want to take this poster at face value, that's obviously up to you. And there are posters on the site with real problems on the site, more worthy of a 7 page thread than this obvious fantasy stuff.

If the OF page is real, we are being used here for promotion.

And If the poster has a 150k/yr side hustle, the best advice is to get finsncial professional to help them. They can afford it. Not anonymous internet posters.

Health11

YellowLead wrote: »

I’m not arguing with you lol, I’m merely pointing out some facts to true few thickos that are buying this BS. I couldn’t care less what you think.

But since you are engaging with me - how did you manage to get a sufficient social media presence when you are working as nurse, fair enough if somebody is unemployed they might have the time?

An hour a day isn’t enough to take pictures and respond to enough messages to make the kind of money you are claiming - what’s your answer for that lol

I have been on social media throughout school and college. Most of the people I follow on social media have jobs.

Do you have any experience with OF? If someone hasn't replied to your message on it, that sucks.

Health11

MrMusician18 wrote: »

There are lots of very successful online content creators. That is on no doubt.

What is hard to believe though is that they'd be making that much and posting here looking for advice.

Then again we do have resident billionaire Aonghus on the site.

I never quite understand this mentality. Just because I have a bit of spare money coming in, I should stop frequenting Boards.ie?

Do you think anyone posting on internet forums is a loser? Grow up.

YellowLead

Health11 wrote: »

I have been on social media throughout school and college. Most of the people I follow on social media have jobs.

Do you have any experience with OF? If someone hasn't replied to your message on it, that sucks.

I have never used it I have only read about it because people joke I should join it to make money (I have an incredible figure) - but I don’t have time because I work, plus while I have no issue with people who create content - in fact I say more power to them and why not - it wouldn’t be something I’d be interested in personally as I can make money other ways.

I meant that most people don’t have enough followers on social media to make the kind of money from subscriptions you are talking about, for those who do it’s usually a full time job as an ‘influencer’. I didn’t mean social media use was only for the unemployed at all.

Health11

Mr.S wrote: »

I think OP’s post is valid - I don’t think she’s gloating or trolling - she obviously started OF on the side and grew her following over time. Isn’t that the point of the forum to ask for advice?

It’s obviously not secure employment, but the cash is immense so I can see why they’d be conflicted. They are also likely not used to this level of an income, even more reason to ask for advice.

I’m sure if they replaced OF with YouTube - the reaction would be far different.

And it's not like I am saying what I am doing is changing the world. It is what it is, but for the effort involved I consider it easy money.

YellowLead

Health11 wrote: »

I never quite understand this mentality. Just because I have a bit of spare money coming in, I should stop frequenting Boards.ie?

Do you think anyone posting on internet forums is a loser? Grow up.

‘Bit of spare money’ but you told us it was 120k per annum, about 4 times your usual salary?
Perhaps it’s more like 100 euro you ACTUALLY make.

Health11

YellowLead wrote: »

I have never used it I have only read about it because people joke I should join it to make money (I have an incredible figure) - but I don’t have time because I work, plus while I have no issue with people who create content - in fact I say more power to them and why not - it wouldn’t be something I’d be interested in personally as I can make money other ways.

I meant that most people don’t have enough followers on social media to make the kind of money from subscriptions you are talking about, for those who do it’s usually a full time job as an ‘influencer’. I didn’t mean social media use was only for the unemployed at all.

Different strokes for different folks. I have no problem with you making money in other ways as long as its all legal and ethical.

Health11

YellowLead wrote: »

‘Bit of spare money’ but you told us it was 120k per annum, about 4 times your usual salary?
Perhaps it’s more like 100 euro you ACTUALLY make.

If that makes you feel better, i have no problem with you believing that.

YellowLead

My guess is that what’s really going on here is that you have your only fans account and you are HOPING to make more money from it, and wondering should you quit your nursing job (if that’s even true either) for an easy life making the kind of money you imagine you can make because you have read around a select number of creators making 100k per year.

YellowLead

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/onlyfans-monica-huldt-describes-how-makes-money-2020-3%3famp

If you can tell us why you make more money than this lady who is considered one of the sites top earners by only putting in an hour a day....then maybe people might believe you...

Health11

YellowLead wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/onlyfans-monica-huldt-describes-how-makes-money-2020-3%3famp

If you can tell us why you make more money than this lady who is considered one of the sites top earners by only putting in an hour a day....then maybe people might believe you...

You seem very invested. I couldn't care less if you belive me. I asked a question. If you don't want to answer that's fine, not sure why you are on this thread getting angry.

floorpie

I think we should give advice to OP in good faith based on the dilemma outlined, whether it's unlikely or not

YellowLead

Health11 wrote: »

You seem very invested. I couldn't care less if you belive me. I asked a question. If you don't want to answer that's fine, not sure why you are on this thread getting angry.

I’m not getting angry, I just find it all super amusing. But it’s fine, I’ve said my piece so I’ll stop posting. I’ll leave you to drumming up new fans and let the gullible guys who are fantasising give you their advice, I wish you no harm.

celt262

Health11 wrote: »

Yeah I am aware of the precarious nature of the career hence keeping all my options open. I have been investing in stocks and bitcoin for a while now. Hopefully I can start making a passive income so if OF goes bust I will have my money made.

Just be careful you might be making good money now but them lads wont be long dropping you and moving onto the next model at any time.

I know a girl local to me started off and was allegedly making what you are getting now and was charging €15 a month for the privilege and has cut the subscription cost to €5 a month now to try and get subscribers. You wont keep making that money unless you start doing stuff with other guys/girls.

Signore Fancy Pants

LOL

Screenshot of your earnings summary on OF, plz tnx bai.

Health11

celt262 wrote: »

Just be careful you might be making good money now but them lads wont be long dropping you and moving onto the next model at any time.

I know a girl local to me started off and was allegedly making what you are getting now and was charging €15 a month for the privilege and has cut the subscription cost to €5 a month now to try and get subscribers. You wont keep making that money unless you start doing stuff with other guys/girls.

Yeah I am aware that it may not be sustainable. I was thinking if I could maximise my earnings now, I could live off that anyway along with my nursing job.

Signore Fancy Pants

How long did it take you to amass €12,000 a month on OF?

Jequ0n

I am always happy to see when a stressed out front line worker finds a way to relax and unwind after a gruelling shift.

Dontfadeaway

Health11 wrote: »

It's bizarre some of the posts here. I don't know if it's jealousy or what. I am well aware I am in a very lucky position, and I don't think I am anything 'special' or talented.

I don’t think people know about O.F enough or how big it has become, so they refuse to believe it. Just get what you can while you can.

Health11

Dontfadeaway wrote: »

I don’t think people know about O.F enough or how big it has become, so they refuse to believe it. Just get what you can while you can.

I didn't think of that but you may be right.

Luckycharm

floorpie wrote: »

If you were earning 1m a month people might be jealous, but nobody in the western world is jealous of 10k a month in exchange for the task here. Your 30k estimate is hypothetical at this point.

Judging by public vs private sector threads, posters here would be more jealous if you remained a staff nurse and got to top of the scale.

Re: comments on begrudgery, any comment that says quitting is a bad idea is begrudgery? She's not earning "retire early" money. It's "decent living" money and that's with the major assumption that it remains consistent, which it 100% will not. I think it's bizarre that old timers on a Jobs board are advising someone to quit a career for a hypothetical income, when she currently has both the career + the OF income.

I think she should do a science degree instead that is clearly where the money is

carveone

I was about to say: what's the issue? What's with the "be careful" comments? Just feck off for 8 months, see how it goes, restart when you feel like it.

However I come from an IT/engineering background. So I may be getting it wrong. I'm curious about medicine in contrast to other professions. For example, in the UK, you'd be a house officer, then senior, then registrar. At which point you go into consulting or GP. Is there a point in those years of training where, if you sodded off for a year, that would affect your career? Or at least (like pilots) your currency?

I've worked in IT and, at two points in my career, have decided to take 6 months. And I did. And that was the end of it. Sure, this is anathema to the old careerists, who believe you work for 40 years and taking a career break is the worst thing in the world. But it made no difference to me, indeed each time I did it I ended up with more money in the next job.

I get the chilling impression that nursing staff here are thought of as akin to nuns. It's not a job, it's "a calling" (ie: they screw you on salary and hours). You can leave but don't come back.

The inmo website has a section on: "Can I take a career break". The answer is yes but "only available for domestic purposes, educational purposes or travel abroad". OR ELSE apparently. When you return, they reserve the right to not employ you for 12 months. On zero pay. And you aren't allowed work for anyone else. WTF is this nonsense. And what is "domestic purposes" when it's at home. Allowing you to have children I suppose.

When I lived in Canada, the health service there was actively poaching HSE nursing staff. Australia too. Both my sisters worked in London and they both said Irish nursing staff are actively recruited there. At this stage you could spend 3 years in a cave in Tibet and they'd still absolutely bite your hand off.

Ok. I went a bit mad there but my point was: This country. Jaysus.

Signore Fancy Pants

Dontfadeaway wrote: »

I don’t think people know about O.F enough or how big it has become, so they refuse to believe it. Just get what you can while you can.

Doing OF for 5 months.
Now up to 12k a month.
Only doing an hour a day.
Says her social media from school/college has enough of a following to rake in 12k pm.
Has bought stocks & Bitcoin....so...maybe has 1 Bitcoin...LOL.

Only an hour or so a day suggests income is from subscriptions. Doubtful to be from requests. So let's be very very unbelievably generous and believe the OP has earned 12k pm for 5 months, thats €60k....on subscriptions.

In reality, not the case as you'd struggle to have an initial solid following, maybe a handful a week.Also, to gain a fcuk tonne of followers needed to get to €12k pm, you'd want to be doing mad stuff, like 3 girls 2 cups stuff, certainly not a casual hour or so

€12.99 seems to be a nice monthly subscription model, so let's pretend thats the one in use here. Let's pretend that people have subscribed 5 times at €12.99 a pop, totalling €64.95 each.

That's 185 people who have paid up €12.99 consistently for 5 months.....with feck all to show for it. Porn heads and perverts are a fickle bunch. Its a Pandemic, fcuk tonnes of people have been out of work. Nobody is going to consistently pay €12.99 a month to someone who isn't putting the effort in or doing requests (such as the OP). Thats a Netflix subscription.

According to Google, Belle Delphine has a $35 monthly subscription but is apparently worth it with a fcuking huuuge social media following prior to OF.

Niamh O'Connor who is apparently a really really popular Irish OF person, earned €27k in Feb.

The recent article in the Independent, stated a full time OF hawker with 200 subscriptions at $9.99 a pop, earns up to €2k pm.

Quite frankly, the OP is winding ye gullible feckers up.

The OP would need to be really fecking popular and an absolute stunner to be making anywhere near 12k pm.

Its a ballhop.

EddieN75

Make hay while the sun shines. The mid 20s spread could be just around the corner and that 12k earning potential could turn into 12 euro in a flash.

ThumbTaxed

My recommendation is to do OF for 24 hours a day and get 288k a month or 3.5m a year and you will earn probably 40m before you are a wreck.

Then go back to nursing.

Dontfadeaway

Dontfadeaway wrote: »

I don’t think people know about O.F enough or how big it has become, so they refuse to believe it. Just get what you can while you can.

In fairness, although I don't use it (paying for porn, pfft) it took me all of about 20 minutes to find a site called OnlyFinder.com where you can search locations and such for OnlyFans sex workers, and it generally lists how many people they have subscribing to them, and how much it costs to subscribe (by the month).


I didn't see anyone making 12k a month on it, but then I didn't really look very thoroughly.

StupidLikeAFox

The government have been ****ing nurses for years, may as well **** yourself and make a few quid at it

YellowLead

YellowLead wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/onlyfans-monica-huldt-describes-how-makes-money-2020-3%3famp

If you can tell us why you make more money than this lady who is considered one of the sites top earners by only putting in an hour a day....then maybe people might believe you...

She’s nowhere near the top earner. I knew nothing about OF before this thread but a simple google reveals that her claims are hardly that radical.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/people/arid-40228745.html

And she wouldn’t be here asking about leaving her job unless she was successful.

Signore Fancy Pants

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Doing OF for 5 months.
Now up to 12k a month.
Only doing an hour a day.
Says her social media from school/college has enough of a following to rake in 12k pm.
Has bought stocks & Bitcoin....so...maybe has 1 Bitcoin...LOL.

Only an hour or so a day suggests income is from subscriptions. Doubtful to be from requests. So let's be very very unbelievably generous and believe the OP has earned 12k pm for 5 months, thats €60k....on subscriptions.

In reality, not the case as you'd struggle to have an initial solid following, maybe a handful a week.Also, to gain a fcuk tonne of followers needed to get to €12k pm, you'd want to be doing mad stuff, like 3 girls 2 cups stuff, certainly not a casual hour or so

€12.99 seems to be a nice monthly subscription model, so let's pretend thats the one in use here. Let's pretend that people have subscribed 5 times at €12.99 a pop, totalling €64.95 each.

That's 185 people who have paid up €12.99 consistently for 5 months.....with feck all to show for it. Porn heads and perverts are a fickle bunch. Its a Pandemic, fcuk tonnes of people have been out of work. Nobody is going to consistently pay €12.99 a month to someone who isn't putting the effort in or doing requests (such as the OP). Thats a Netflix subscription.

According to Google, Belle Delphine has a $35 monthly subscription but is apparently worth it with a fcuking huuuge social media following prior to OF.

Niamh O'Connor who is apparently a really really popular Irish OF person, earned €27k in Feb.

The recent article in the Independent, stated a full time OF hawker with 200 subscriptions at $9.99 a pop, earns up to €2k pm.

Quite frankly, the OP is winding ye gullible feckers up.

The OP would need to be really fecking popular and an absolute stunner to be making anywhere near 12k pm.

Its a ballhop.

Too much “research” dude.

Health11

Deleted User wrote: »

Too much “research” dude.

Exactly! Im astonished he went to that effort and still came out with an incorrect verdict.

Anyway there’s only two possibilities here.

The op is totally lying.
The op is earning serious money.

If she’s earning €100 a month there would be no need for the thread.

Signore Fancy Pants

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Too much “research” dude.

Less than 5 minutes, another 5 doing the sums.

I just opened an account myself. I have no subscribers or content and I'm up €4000 already.

Signore Fancy Pants

Health11 wrote: »

Exactly! Im astonished he went to that effort and still came out with an incorrect verdict.

Prove me wrong.

Signore Fancy Pants

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Less than 5 minutes, another 5 doing the sums.

I just opened an account myself. I have no subscribers or content and I'm up €4000 already.

you seem to know a lot about requests and subscriptions and the difference.

The op could be a total spoofer but if she is on OF at all she is making money, or the thread would make no sense. If it was 2K a month then why would anybody give up a 35K job?

Signore Fancy Pants

[Deleted User] wrote: »

you seem to know a lot about requests and subscriptions and the difference.

Yeah, it's called reading *slow clap* for you boss.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The op could be a total spoofer but if she is on OF at all she is making money, or the thread would make no sense. If it was 2K a month then why would anybody give up a 35K job?

Maybe because its BS. I hope she ends up making €20k+ per month, girl power etc.

And on that note, this is not AH so I will bow out of the thread, the OP has no obligation to deal with someone like me who will ask questions and counter his/her claims.

Bon chance Amigo.

Signore Fancy Pants

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Yeah, it's called reading *slow clap* for you boss.

Not denying you read it, just wondering when you started reading it.

Maybe because its BS. I hope she ends up making €20k+ per month, girl power etc.

And on that note, this is not AH so I will bow out of the thread, the OP has no obligation to deal with someone like me who will ask questions and counter his/her claims.

Bon chance Amigo.

Yes, I agree, in these threads we should assume the OP is not lying.

So OP, my opinion:

1) You shouldn't quit your job. This big money might not last.
2) Make sure that being on OF isn't against your contract as a nurse.
3) Save.

Get your tax in order.

Health11

I'm happy doing what I'm doing so will take no notice of the naysayers.

Timmyr

pm me a link to your of, for research purposes

893bet

Here for the PM also, just see what the fuss is.

floorpie

Deleted User wrote: »

it took me all of about 20 minutes to find a site called OnlyFinder.com ..... generally lists how many people they have subscribing to them, and how much it costs to subscribe (by the month).

I've scraped that depressing site and for anybody interested here are the stats (yes I have too much time)

Exec summary:
1) OP might be telling the truth but is overly ambitious
2) OF is a bad business to get into
3) Girls and guys selling nudes account for 0.00129% of Irish GDP

* There are ~800 Irish accounts visible

* The average subscription price is $6 and the median is $5 (prices are in dollars)

* The average number of likes is 3864 and the median is 134, the range is 0 - 267311

* Of the 800 accounts, 22% (176) earn zero per month, and ~50% make <$10

* Only 57 make their number of subscribers known, the rest hide it (in other words, for these 57 you can know their income from subscriptions, the rest you can not)

* Of these 57 accounts, here are the number of subscribers and the earnings per month for the top 5 accounts in order:

4687 -- $18,748
371 -- $5,156.9
31 -- $620
29 -- $522
35 -- $279.65

* The top account (with 4687 subscribers) is Matty Gilbert, so in terms of subscriber numbers he doesn't earn €50k per month as claimed by media: https://www.fm104.ie/news/buzz/irish-dad-opens-up-about-decision-to-start-only-fans-where-he-earns-e50k-a-month/
You can verify that this information is all current by looking at the number of subscribers listed on his page right now (4.6K): https://onlyfans.com/mattygilbert91

* Based on the 57 accounts that show both #subscribers and #likes, you can roughly model the number of subscribers for accounts where it is unknown; on average users get ~0.02 subscribers for each like

* Based on this rough model, the average income for all accounts is $521 per month, and the median is $14, with a tiny % accounting for most income

* The range of income is 0 - $32,000 (i.e. OP's estimate of possible income is pretty good)

* Only 80 accounts make $1000 a month or more

* 10 accounts make $10,000 or more (OP is top tier)

* Many accounts like to brag about being in the top x% of earners, based on information they're privy to via OF. I believe many are incorrect about their standing, but nevertheless it gives you an idea of how much work you need to do to get into a certain select strata, and how little reward you get for being in the top tiers:

Claimed Top %

---

#Likes

---

Estimated Base Income per month
16

---

547

---

82.05
14

---

1500

---

225
11

---

3600

---

540
1.9

---

5,000

---

690
1

---

13,331

---

750
1

---

44,000

---

2403.9
0.8

---

4600

---

1999.65
0.9

---

16,026

---

6600

* These figures don't include tips and requests, which may account for 0-50% additional income

* There's no correlation between attractiveness and income (my personal judgment), so perhaps it's a good business to get into if you're a 5/10 and I'm considering a career change

All in all, OP, your ambition to become the top 0.01% of Irish earners on OF is probably unrealistic just based on probabilities and level of competition. For anybody else, don't get into the porn business, you likely wont make any money

BorneTobyWilde

OF is only possible with a huge social media base, unless you're a celebrity. Did you really use your normal social media base to promote your OF, but wouldn't that social media base be all your friends and family.