Golf Ireland App now live

Seve OB

prawnsambo wrote: »

This is true. However, the outcry that ensued when GI said handicaps could only be viewed on their platform makes that a pipe dream. We have all these systems because people are resistant to change and people don't use them because they're resistant to change. :rolleyes:

What do you want people to change to?

Golf clubs run software and they are free to choose whichever software they like. Some software is better than others and some require multiple apps while others are all in one. The software allows booking golf, entering comps, entering scores, publishing results and some administrative facilities such as bar account balance/ prize balance etc.

The Golf Ireland App does none of this.

prawnsambo

Seve OB wrote: »

What do you want people to change to?

Golf clubs run software and they are free to choose whichever software they like. Some software is better than others and some require multiple apps while others are all in one. The software allows booking golf, entering comps, entering scores, publishing results and some administrative facilities such as bar account balance/ prize balance etc.

The Golf Ireland App does none of this.

I don't 'want'' people to change to anything. The resources are there to be used. Use them or not, it's up to you. But there are downsides to not using all the resources available. Your situation with 'Marker 2' being one of them. And there was a hell of a lot of work for club committees because people never checked GolfNet to see if their scores were correctly entered and fully up to date before the changeover to WHS. I'm sure most didn't care about that, but it's more than likely that a lot of people aren't on the correct handicap because of it.

billy3sheets

I've used the GI App since the weekend and I like it.
I've entered 2 9-hole scores and added 6 firends from 3 different clubs (all of them knew their GUI number ). I like the highlighting of the 8 counting scores in green. I think it would be useful to highlight the score which is dropping out of the count in orange.

1st round, I filled in my own scores only scores after the round. The 2nd round I filled in both our scores for the first 5 holes on the go. Between findng the phone in different pockets, unlocking it, shading it from the glare etc, it was a bit slow and my partner politely suggested leaving until the end

It's a useful option but I can't see it being for everyone. Might beat a soggy card on a wet day.

david2002

I returned a score on the GI app on Monday 26th April. It was verified on the app by my playing partner.
The round appeared on my GI record for 3-4 says but the following weekend it dropped off or was removed.
I enquired with a clubmate who had returned a score om May 2nd and similar happened him. His scored dropped off his record yesterday.

Very strange. A fault in the app or it is being removed by our Handicap Committee, we have no idea.

Anyone else come across this scenario?

DuckSlice

david2002 wrote: »

I returned a score on the GI app on Monday 26th April. It was verified on the app by my playing partner.
The round appeared on my GI record for 3-4 says but the following weekend it dropped off or was removed.
I enquired with a clubmate who had returned a score om May 2nd and similar happened him. His scored dropped off his record yesterday.

Very strange. A fault in the app or it is being removed by our Handicap Committee, we have no idea.

Anyone else come across this scenario?

Seems strange, is you handicap sec deleting them I wonder?

IAmTitleist

Can't remember if i mentioned this on this thread or another but there is certainly a problem with no returns after entering a competition. Whether it's just at my club i don't know.

Last night my 4 ball all entered the competition. 3 of us finished the 18 holes and entered our scores...handicap adjusted appropriately by this morning.

The 4th member walked in after 9 (he was having a shocker). Didn't enter his card and this morning looking at his Golf Ireland profile, it doesn't show any score from last night. He has a good round as his 20th oldest so it would and should have dropped out but it's still there.

So is a no return a simple way of avoiding an increase in handicap if its a poor round?

gypsy79

IAmTitleist wrote: »

So is a no return a simple way of avoiding an increase in handicap if its a poor round?

No. They must all be explained to handicap sec

A first one is a warning. A second one in our place would result in handicap frozen for a week, second a month

And handicap secretary has power to add a penalty score

IAmTitleist

I think that was the case before the new system though?

It was rarely if ever acted upon at our club by our handicap committee.

gypsy79

IAmTitleist wrote: »

I think that was the case before the new system though?

It was rarely if ever acted upon at our club by our handicap committee.

well there is a more robust plan in ours to deal with it

DuckSlice

IAmTitleist wrote: »

I think that was the case before the new system though?

It was rarely if ever acted upon at our club by our handicap committee.

Seems to depend on whoever closes the comp where i play. Havent noticed whats happening with NR now on the WHS though.

spacecoyote

etxp wrote: »

Seems to depend on whoever closes the comp where i play. Havent noticed whats happening with NR now on the WHS though.

I do have an NR in my record going back from early 2020. Was out with the society and entered an open in the club we were playing on the same day.

Was captain of the society for the year and completely forgot about submitting my card after as was so tied up with prize giving, etc...

So it appears to have applied a net double bogey to all holes as I have a score of 117 strokes standing or like a sore thumb in my record at the moment (showd how little qualifying golf has been played that a round from Feb 2020 is still among my last 20 counting rounds)

gypsy79

spacecoyote wrote: »

I do have an NR in my record going back from early 2020. Was out with the society and entered an open in the club we were playing on the same day.

Was captain of the society for the year and completely forgot about submitting my card after as was so tied up with prize giving, etc...

So it appears to have applied a net double bogey to all holes as I have a score of 117 strokes standing or like a sore thumb in my record at the moment (showd how little qualifying golf has been played that a round from Feb 2020 is still among my last 20 counting rounds)

Score entry for boards will be interesting

blue note

spacecoyote wrote: »

I do have an NR in my record going back from early 2020. Was out with the society and entered an open in the club we were playing on the same day.

Was captain of the society for the year and completely forgot about submitting my card after as was so tied up with prize giving, etc...

So it appears to have applied a net double bogey to all holes as I have a score of 117 strokes standing or like a sore thumb in my record at the moment (showd how little qualifying golf has been played that a round from Feb 2020 is still among my last 20 counting rounds)

I put in my 20th qualifying score last weekend. The oldest goes back to September 2019. And I was delighted looking at all the golf I had gotten to play in that time, probably more than any time since I was a junior!

FixdePitchmark

IAmTitleist wrote: »

Can't remember if i mentioned this on this thread or another but there is certainly a problem with no returns after entering a competition. Whether it's just at my club i don't know.

Last night my 4 ball all entered the competition. 3 of us finished the 18 holes and entered our scores...handicap adjusted appropriately by this morning.

The 4th member walked in after 9 (he was having a shocker). Didn't enter his card and this morning looking at his Golf Ireland profile, it doesn't show any score from last night. He has a good round as his 20th oldest so it would and should have dropped out but it's still there.

So is a no return a simple way of avoiding an increase in handicap if its a poor round?

Sorry if this is a daft question.

But how was there a competition?

This an informal thing ?

mighty magpie

Yeah NRs are entered as 18 net double bogeys in my club too.

One issue i have seen between app and website is that when searching another player, i can see their scores on app but not website.

I hope whoevers in charge of testing is checking this thread.

IAmTitleist

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Sorry if this is a daft question.

But how was there a competition?

This an informal thing ?

Northern Ireland!

prawnsambo

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Sorry if this is a daft question.

But how was there a competition?

This an informal thing ?

They're called 'informal qualifying events' at the moment.

prawnsambo

IAmTitleist wrote: »

Can't remember if i mentioned this on this thread or another but there is certainly a problem with no returns after entering a competition. Whether it's just at my club i don't know.

Last night my 4 ball all entered the competition. 3 of us finished the 18 holes and entered our scores...handicap adjusted appropriately by this morning.

The 4th member walked in after 9 (he was having a shocker). Didn't enter his card and this morning looking at his Golf Ireland profile, it doesn't show any score from last night. He has a good round as his 20th oldest so it would and should have dropped out but it's still there.

So is a no return a simple way of avoiding an increase in handicap if its a poor round?

I answered this on the other thread. NRs should be counted as nett double bogey for each hole. Basically the hcap/sec should enter zero for each hole and Golf Ireland will record those as NDBs for handicap purposes.

Poker Face

Members Club competitions allowed from May 10th.

While the return to formal, organised competition across all sports will commence from 7th June in line with the Irish Government’s ‘Path Ahead’,
we can now confirm that golf clubs can organise internal club competitions for members only from 10th May onwards, with all other competition
activities then permitted from 7th June, subject to the public health situation at the time.

https://static.clubhouse.golfireland.ie/clubs/1000/uploads/files/club_support/gi_livingwithcovidroi_may10_4.pdf

Golf 247

Poker Face wrote: »

Members Club competitions allowed from May 10th.

While the return to formal, organised competition across all sports will commence from 7th June in line with the Irish Government’s ‘Path Ahead’,
we can now confirm that golf clubs can organise internal club competitions for members only from 10th May onwards, with all other competition
activities then permitted from 7th June, subject to the public health situation at the time.

https://static.clubhouse.golfireland.ie/clubs/1000/uploads/files/club_support/gi_livingwithcovidroi_may10_4.pdf

Thanks for sharing the link. Is it published on their website as I cant find it or are they keeping it out of public domain? Just want to be sure its a valid link?

Poker Face

Golf 247 wrote: »

Thanks for sharing the link. Is it published on their website as I cant find it or are they keeping it out of public domain? Just want to be sure its a valid link?

Its on https://www.golfireland.ie/covid-19 .... Golf and Living with Covid in ROI after May 10th is link

david2002

etxp wrote: »

Seems strange, is you handicap sec deleting them I wonder?

You could be spot on. Never thought of that. You would think if my Club dont accept GI app scores they would communicate that to us though.

prawnsambo

david2002 wrote: »

You could be spot on. Never thought of that. You would think if my Club dont accept GI app scores they would communicate that to us though.

Talk to your handicap secretary. They may have deleted it because there was no accompanying scorecard left in (this is just me surmising). By rights, they should outline a procedure for members to follow so that they can approve these scores. I would expect scorecards to be left in as well as the score lodged correctly on the GI app and/or the club software.

DuckSlice

prawnsambo wrote: »

I answered this on the other thread. NRs should be counted as nett double bogey for each hole. Basically the hcap/sec should enter zero for each hole and Golf Ireland will record those as NDBs for handicap purposes.

Will these rounds count towards the players handicap? can someone just keep doing NR and then get a massive handicap?

DuckSlice

david2002 wrote: »

You could be spot on. Never thought of that. You would think if my Club dont accept GI app scores they would communicate that to us though.

They have to accept them, but i think they have the right to ask for the scorecard.

IAmTitleist

prawnsambo wrote: »

I answered this on the other thread. NRs should be counted as nett double bogey for each hole. Basically the hcap/sec should enter zero for each hole and Golf Ireland will record those as NDBs for handicap purposes.

Apologies i knew i had mentioned it on somewhere.

I guess our handicap secretary isn't doing his job correctly then.

The temptation of not returning my card after a shocker round could be hard to resist....:p

IAmTitleist

Actually on this.

I've had a look through our Masters Scoreboard for a few random people...and the problem goes back to last year and before probably.

Any card that wasn't returned in the past does not appear on the new golf WHS system. So for example the player above who i spoke about has 3/4 no returns from the tail end of last summer. All of which don't appear on WHS.

willabur

anyone else getting upgrade notifications on app store but when you go to upgrade you get the new zealand golf app?

Wichita Lineman

willabur wrote: »

anyone else getting upgrade notifications on app store but when you go to upgrade you get the new zealand golf app?

Yes but if you tab down a little the Irish version appears.

prawnsambo

IAmTitleist wrote: »

Actually on this.

I've had a look through our Masters Scoreboard for a few random people...and the problem goes back to last year and before probably.

Any card that wasn't returned in the past does not appear on the new golf WHS system. So for example the player above who i spoke about has 3/4 no returns from the tail end of last summer. All of which don't appear on WHS.

Yeah. These were mostly dropped when they were converting old scores to the new system. Unless the player in question didn't have that many scores and they were included. Which I think is fair. No point throwing in NRs if there are enough actual scores within the time period.

manster

Anyone else having issues with being able to get location services working with app? A few lads I know have tried reinstalling, turning GPS off and on, turning phone off and on, waving phone in air, threatening it etc. All to avail. Literally standing on 1st teebox but app says "location unavailable". Very frustrating.

OEP

manster wrote: »

Anyone else having issues with being able to get location services working with app? A few lads I know have tried reinstalling, turning GPS off and on, turning phone off and on, waving phone in air, threatening it etc. All to avail. Literally standing on 1st teebox but app says "location unavailable". Very frustrating.

Must be something to do with the phone or OS they have, and a bug in the app. You should notify GI or he app developers

flanzer

manster wrote: »

Anyone else having issues with being able to get location services working with app? A few lads I know have tried reinstalling, turning GPS off and on, turning phone off and on, waving phone in air, threatening it etc. All to avail. Literally standing on 1st teebox but app says "location unavailable". Very frustrating.

I got an error saying I had to be in the vicinity of the golf course when submitting the scorecard! I was in the bloody car park! Tried it a few times, then went home (6kms away), and submitted them later, without an issue

fearruanua

Apologies if this has been asked before.
Played this morning. Submitted general play score.
Waiting for attestation from player partner. He has received the notification to say that he has to do it but he can’t figure out where in the app he approves my score. Any advice appreciated.

coillcam

fearruanua wrote: »

Apologies if this has been asked before.
Played this morning. Submitted general play score.
Waiting for attestation from player partner. He has received the notification to say that he has to do it but he can’t figure out where in the app he approves my score. Any advice appreciated.

Go to messages. There will be a score waiting for approval. I didn't get a notification from my mate's round today but the message was sitting waiting.

fearruanua

coillcam wrote: »

Go to messages. There will be a score waiting for approval. I didn't get a notification from my mate's round today but the message was sitting waiting.

Lovely. Sorted. thanks

prawnsambo

flanzer wrote: »

I got an error saying I had to be in the vicinity of the golf course when submitting the scorecard! I was in the bloody car park! Tried it a few times, then went home (6kms away), and submitted them later, without an issue

Could have been a GPS issue, so located based on IP which could be miles away. But at home worked fine and within the margin for error.

coillcam

Uploaded my first score yesterday 50 (49* adjusted for stroke max) on the local back 9. This was +12 which matched my 12 handicap displayed in the app for the white tees on the back 9.

This morning I logged in and I've been cut by 1.2 from 21.1 to 19.9. It's only the 2nd score visible in the app though. For some reason, the handful of cards submitted are missing. I only joined mid-summer last year and it took a while before I could get a handicap. As a result, I barely got to play any comps.

I'd suspect that my handicap could jump around quite a bit until I log 8+ scores.

prawnsambo

coillcam wrote: »

Uploaded my first score yesterday 50 (49* adjusted for stroke max) on the local back 9. This was +12 which matched my 12 handicap displayed in the app for the white tees on the back 9.

This morning I logged in and I've been cut by 1.2 from 21.1 to 19.9. It's only the 2nd score visible in the app though. For some reason, the handful of cards submitted are missing. I only joined mid-summer last year and it took a while before I could get a handicap. As a result, I barely got to play any comps.

I'd suspect that my handicap could jump around quite a bit until I log 8+ scores.

Initial handicap cards from pre-WHS times are dropped from the system once new scores are added afaik. This could possibly be the case with initial handicap cards under WHS as well, but it's too early to know at this stage.

Gipo3

coillcam wrote: »

Uploaded my first score yesterday 50 (49* adjusted for stroke max) on the local back 9. This was +12 which matched my 12 handicap displayed in the app for the white tees on the back 9.

This morning I logged in and I've been cut by 1.2 from 21.1 to 19.9. It's only the 2nd score visible in the app though. For some reason, the handful of cards submitted are missing. I only joined mid-summer last year and it took a while before I could get a handicap. As a result, I barely got to play any comps.

I'd suspect that my handicap could jump around quite a bit until I log 8+ scores.

There is an adjustment until you have enough cards. If you see what differential is counting and see if adjustment gives the index. https://www.randa.org/Rules-of-Handicapping/2019/Rules/The-Rules-of-Handicapping/Rule-5

coillcam

Gipo3 wrote: »

There is an adjustment until you have enough cards. If you see what differential is counting and see if adjustment gives the index. https://www.randa.org/Rules-of-Handicapping/2019/Rules/The-Rules-of-Handicapping/Rule-5

Ah okay, this makes sense. In a few weeks it'll even out provided I keep logging my scores.

I have a mate with no HC who joined at the same time as me last year. Will he get a HC from Golf Ireland/WHS by logging rounds or should he still submit cards to our HC secretary?

prawnsambo

coillcam wrote: »

Ah okay, this makes sense. In a few weeks it'll even out provided I keep logging my scores.

I have a mate with no HC who joined at the same time as me last year. Will he get a HC from Golf Ireland/WHS by logging rounds or should he still submit cards to our HC secretary?

Submit cards to the club. They have to check them and enter them on the system. Also they may want to consider an adjustment to what the cards produce.

billy3sheets

Good that you can see the stableford scores while entering the scores. Bad that you can't see them after the round has been submitted. Be good if the golfer's name was shown at the top too when you look at specific round, be useful for a screenshot.

sam7777

flanzer wrote: »

I got an error saying I had to be in the vicinity of the golf course when submitting the scorecard! I was in the bloody car park! Tried it a few times, then went home (6kms away), and submitted them later, without an issue

this happened to me yesterday,i opened the google maps app,and it changed my location from home,to the golf course

bren2001

coillcam wrote: »

Uploaded my first score yesterday 50 (49* adjusted for stroke max) on the local back 9. This was +12 which matched my 12 handicap displayed in the app for the white tees on the back 9.

This morning I logged in and I've been cut by 1.2 from 21.1 to 19.9. It's only the 2nd score visible in the app though. For some reason, the handful of cards submitted are missing. I only joined mid-summer last year and it took a while before I could get a handicap. As a result, I barely got to play any comps.

I'd suspect that my handicap could jump around quite a bit until I log 8+ scores.

I've gone 18.2 -> 20.1 -> 16.0 -> 17.0

That's from submitting 3 9-hole cards: 49, 43, and a 47. I expect it to jump around a good bit more.

mighty magpie

Had a 78 drop out of my 20 and 81 added over the weekend. Handicap increased by 0.3.

My average best 8 is +8.4 to par. Handicap 7.0.

The lack of knowledge of how it the new WHS is calculated is startling in my club, even those on club commitee.

kod12

How have people been using the app for stableford. When I scratch a hole I put in the lowest number that gives zero points is that correct?

Seve OB

kod12 wrote: »

How have people been using the app for stableford. When I scratch a hole I put in the lowest number that gives zero points is that correct?

you can tell it that you picked up

dan_ep82

Seve OB wrote: »

you can tell it that you picked up

IIRC its down the bottom of the screen, tap the three dots to open the option.

valc

Has anyone had problems creating a scorecard on the Golf Ireland app?

I preregistered to play at a club I am a member in (though not my home club) last weekend, but when finished I tried to create the scorecard to enter my score. I could select the club, the marker and then selected proceed to create the scorecard, but the app just wouldn’t create. I was sitting about 30 yds from the 18th green at the time so I was in the vicinity, as requested by the app.

Any advice appreciated. My handicap secretary didn’t know why.

valc