When can we fly to Spain.

DessieJames

Rasmus wrote: »

Does anyone know if Spain will be dropping the PCR requirement later in summer if a person is vaccinated? Even if the digital pass is introduced by August, it doesn't mean it's hassle-free entry, as far as I can see.

of course, they are desperate to get tourists back, the only problem are the absolute charlatans in government here, not to mentuon over zealous lunatics , pathlogical liars NPHET dragging this out for as long as posisble.

DessieJames

maestroamado wrote: »

As i said earlier i seen a guy with UK passport being quizzed on a flight from Dublin December (i think) before we became high risk which was in Jan.
He pushed his way past me as i was bringing the info up.
When they scanned they pulled him aside as it turned red and went x.
When mine was scanned it said correct ans went green.
That's all i know but we will find out here soon i expect.
Belfast would work for me...

I've taken numerous flights to and from Belfast and will again next week,never any isues at all.

Rasmus

DessieJames wrote: »

of course, they are desperate to get tourists back, the only problem are the absolute charlatans in government here, not to mentuon over zealous lunatics , pathlogical liars NPHET dragging this out for as long as posisble.

Hopefully. When the pass comes into use, EU countries have been asked not to impose additional travel restrictions (including testing) unless necessary to protect public health.  Member states will still have the right to request tests on entry - whether Spain will or not is the question though.. hopefully they'll be more eager to encourage tourism.

maestroamado

DessieJames wrote: »

I've taken numerous flights to and from Belfast and will again next week,never any isues at all.

There has not been a flight from Belfast to Malaga since Dec... starting back next week, i am assuming from your comment you have travelled recently?


Can i ask what is needed on arrival with Irl passport, my trip is not important enough to have being getting tested out and again for return...


With regard to your comment as to what's happening here, the problem is in my view there is no joined-up thinking and we make it up as we go.

Atlantic Dawn

Spain says come one, come all once vaccinated from June 7, finally some sense...

"From June 7, all vaccinated people and their families will be welcome in our country, Spain, regardless of their country of origin," Mr Sanchez said at an international tourism fair in Madrid.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0521/1222975-world-covid/

0lddog

maestroamado wrote: »

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With regard to your comment as to what's happening here, the problem is in my view there is no joined-up thinking and we make it up as we go.

I think you are being far to kind to the people who are responsible for policy.

Among other things they seem to be devoid of ambition and incapable of grasping the concepts of risk management

W.W. laid it out clearly at a recent oireachtas committee meeting.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/oireachtas-tv/video-archive/committees/4228/

maestroamado

0lddog wrote: »

I think you are being far to kind to the people who are responsible for policy.

Among other things they seem to be devoid of ambition and incapable of grasping the concepts of risk management

W.W. laid it out clearly at a recent oireachtas committee meeting.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/oireachtas-tv/video-archive/committees/4228/

I expect that if what i am reading is correct we will just have to open the borders to Europe.
This has being going on for over a year and we have no system in place to confirm who got the vaccines.
So basically Ryanair will be flying passengers one-way...

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Spain says come one, come all once vaccinated from June 7, finally some sense...

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0521/1222975-world-covid/

How do you prove you're vaccinated, the thing they give you with batch numbers and dates ?

Atlantic Dawn

Augeo wrote: »

How do you prove you're vaccinated, the thing they give you with batch numbers and dates ?

The EU Digital Covid Certificate will be up and running by end of June. I imagine they won't really care if you are spoofing them as their own vulnerable will be vaccinated.

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1222934/

Yeah but we mightn't have that for another 6 weeks after that.
From7th June to when we've the digital thing what's required?

kenkin

I have a ROI passport. Can I travel from Belfast to Alicante without a PCR test or is it only UK passport holders who can now travel to Spain without a PCR test

DessieJames

kenkin wrote: »

I have a ROI passport. Can I travel from Belfast to Alicante without a PCR test or is it only UK passport holders who can now travel to Spain without a PCR test

yes it shouldnt be a problem, theres hundreds of thousands of people up north who have Irish passports.

DessieJames

maestroamado wrote: »

There has not been a flight from Belfast to Malaga since Dec... starting back next week, i am assuming from your comment you have travelled recently?


Can i ask what is needed on arrival with Irl passport, my trip is not important enough to have being getting tested out and again for return...


With regard to your comment as to what's happening here, the problem is in my view there is no joined-up thinking and we make it up as we go.

havent been to Malaga recently, but i have the UK a good few times and never any issues flying to and from Belfast, in fact i cant even remember seeing any border security in quite sometime.

Looking good for July now..........
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40297949.html

"A pilot programme for a digital cert has been in operation in Ireland since earlier this year, he said, so it could be rolled out within a week of the legislation being approved by the EU.

.......................

“We will be ready within a week of the EU legislation.” "

DessieJames

Folks why are you all so concerned about going on holiday as in flying from Dublin, even if the prophets of doom in NPHET get their way and its put back a few months simply drive or get a train or coach to Belfast and fly from there,it's a few more hours but at least you'll all get away on holiday without any issues at all.

I will be likely travelling from Dublin but if need be ill head up to Belfast to fly to Spain, i think lll go for about 5/6 weeks as well, get the fcuk out of this absolute misery dump for a good while and forget about it all,i dont fancy sitting in some beer garden sheltering from the rain either!!

Enjoy your holiday, and stop believing the lies and scaremongering about travel.

naufragos123

DessieJames wrote: »

Folks why are you all so concerned about going on holiday as in flying from Dublin, even if the prophets of doom in NPHET get their way and its put back a few months simply drive or get a train or coach to Belfast and fly from there,it's a few more hours but at least you'll all get away on holiday without any issues at all.

I will be likely travelling from Dublin but if need be ill head up to Belfast to fly to Spain, i think lll go for about 5/6 weeks as well, get the fcuk out of this absolute misery dump for a good while and forget about it all,i dont fancy sitting in some beer garden sheltering from the rain either!!

Enjoy your holiday, and stop believing the lies and scaremongering about travel.

Agree with you Dessie James. The only problem is that for some of us on this rock, Belfast is just too far away.

kenkin

Whats the best way to get from Dublin to either of the airports in Belfast?

beggars_bush

DessieJames wrote: »

Folks why are you all so concerned about going on holiday as in flying from Dublin, even if the prophets of doom in NPHET get their way and its put back a few months simply drive or get a train or coach to Belfast and fly from there,it's a few more hours but at least you'll all get away on holiday without any issues at all.

I will be likely travelling from Dublin but if need be ill head up to Belfast to fly to Spain, i think lll go for about 5/6 weeks as well, get the fcuk out of this absolute misery dump for a good while and forget about it all,i dont fancy sitting in some beer garden sheltering from the rain either!!

Enjoy your holiday, and stop believing the lies and scaremongering about travel.

you've been rabbiting on for the last few months about going and yet here you still are.

DessieJames

DessieJames wrote: »

Folks why are you all so concerned about going on holiday as in flying from Dublin...........

I'm vaccinated and need to go to Austria via Germany as soon as practically possible to close off some business stuff but I'm not going to go until I can fly with the vaccine benefit (ie freely).
Last I heard you can't fly from UK to Germany die to the Indian variants prevalence in the UK, also no flights that suit me from Belfast to Germany or Austria.

I know I'm in a fly to Spain thread so I'm way off topic admittedly

beggars_bush

beggars_bush wrote: »

you've been rabbiting on for the last few months about going and yet here you still are.

Saving up the PUP isn't going too well, bags of cans aren't cheap :pac:

DessieJames

beggars_bush wrote: »

you've been rabbiting on for the last few months about going and yet here you still are.

so its ok for people like this to slate me for no reason byut when i say something similar the moderators send me a message and give me an infraction for being "uncivil" :rolleyes:

what fcuking business is it of yours where and when i go, ill go to Spain when i want, people like you will probably stay in a dark room with masks and hand sanatizer, go and do one :rolleyes:

DessieJames

naufragos123 wrote: »

Agree with you Dessie James. The only problem is that for some of us on this rock, Belfast is just too far away.

up to you mate, if you want to go away on holiday you'll foresake a few extra hours travelling.

DessieJames

kenkin wrote: »

Whats the best way to get from Dublin to either of the airports in Belfast?

whatever you want, drive, train or coach.

Belfast city airport is close to the city centre, the international aiorport if you want to call it that it's more like a large shed lol is about 35 minutes outside the city centre, regular bus service from Europa.

sideshowbob321

When can we travel to Spain ?

Answer - 19th July
- Mike Drop
- Close the thread .....

robbie checker

Well I don't think its that clear cut and the devil will be in the detail this evening. Even if the EU Digital Covid certs are in place for 19th July, it won't cover people who only have one vaccine or children who are not vaccinated and some families with kids may need PCR tests for the whole family with the additional cost and hassle of that on both sides. What happens then if one of the family tests positive either before you depart or return? Can't see the government allowing travel without PCR tests within Europe if they are reluctant to open the Common area due to the Indian variant. Only some hotels offer free hotel cancellations and most are a week or more before you are supposed to travel. Ryan Air will only allow you to change flight dates 7 days pre departure unless you want to pay the higher fares, Aer Lingus are more flexible. I don't think travel insurance will cover these situations if you book now. Not trying to put anyone off here. We went to Portugal last year and would go tomorrow in a heartbeat but it just seems more uncertain this year than last year which is mad with the vaccination rollout this year.

robbie checker

robbie checker wrote: »

.........it won't cover people who only have one vaccine or children who are not vaccinated and some families with kids may need PCR tests for the whole family with the additional cost and hassle of that on both sides.................

Yeah, all that is fairly well know.

It's travel with a vaccine, negative test or proof that you've had covid.
Much what they've always said to be fair.

If the EU Digital Covid certs aren't in place for 19th July then obviously there's no travel.

Sono

Took a punt, flights booked middle of august, fingers crossed now.

I'd booked for 23rd July....... flights and car rental a while back.
Car rental is x3€s now.

mdolly123

Are PCR tests scrapped for Irish travellers to Spain now?
Is a test needed to get through Dublin airport on the way out?

Atlantic Dawn

19th July says RTE...

Non-essential international travel will resume on 19 July.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0528/1224365-covid-19/

DessieJames

i booked up last week for July i had always intented on flying in July anyway.

DessieJames

mdolly123 wrote: »

Are PCR tests scrapped for Irish travellers to Spain now?
Is a test needed to get through Dublin airport on the way out?

coming abck you dont need one so i would assume you dont need one going to Spain

junebabies

Havnt seen the news, what do you need if you are non vaccinated travelling to Italy end of July does anyone know? Or has anyone a link to the Green light system?

Skippette

junebabies wrote: »

Havnt seen the news, what do you need if you are non vaccinated travelling to Italy end of July does anyone know? Or has anyone a link to the Green light system?

The EU DigitalCovid-19 Certificate (DCC) will come into force on the 1st of July for EU countries. In order to obtain it you will need to show that:
- Vaccinated
- tested negative
- recovered from Covid

EU member states can put additional restrictions or allowances with this. For example, Spain have said the UK (so non EU ) can come there with no covid test and Ireland seem to have dismissed the Antigen test. On gov.ie it states all children (7-18)will need a PCR test to enter Ireland.

The traffic light system won't come into play for EU countries unless the sh!t hits the fan I would imagine. So all going well, you will need a negative PCR test taken 72hr before arrival in Italy and you should be good to go. Would be worth checking what Italy may require as in, they may say you need to complete a passenger locator form. I don't know if they do, but I know that Spain requires it and I assume Ireland will still request it.

Gael23

Any update on the relaxing of the outdoor mask rule?

Gael23

Gael23 wrote: »

Any update on the relaxing of the outdoor mask rule?

In Ireland? What's the outdoor mask rule?

junebabies

Augeo wrote: »

In Ireland? What's the outdoor mask rule?

I presume she ment in Spain

maestroamado

Skippette wrote: »

The EU DigitalCovid-19 Certificate (DCC) will come into force on the 1st of July for EU countries. In order to obtain it you will need to show that:
- Vaccinated
- tested negative
- recovered from Covid

EU member states can put additional restrictions or allowances with this. For example, Spain have said the UK (so non EU ) can come there with no covid test and Ireland seem to have dismissed the Antigen test. On gov.ie it states all children (7-18)will need a PCR test to enter Ireland.

The traffic light system won't come into play for EU countries unless the sh!t hits the fan I would imagine. So all going well, you will need a negative PCR test taken 72hr before arrival in Italy and you should be good to go. Would be worth checking what Italy may require as in, they may say you need to complete a passenger locator form. I don't know if they do, but I know that Spain requires it and I assume Ireland will still request it.

I have been asking this elsewhere with no joy, you may know.
Where do we get this EU DigitalCovid-19 Certificate (DCC) you mention...

maestroamado

maestroamado wrote: »

I have been asking this elsewhere with no joy, you may know.
Where do we get this EU DigitalCovid-19 Certificate (DCC) you mention...

It's to be available on smartphones so likely an app I believe....... after entering some ID criteria (PPS was taken at time of vaccination) your status will be displayed in the QR code. Can also be printed I think.

Skippette

maestroamado wrote: »

I have been asking this elsewhere with no joy, you may know.
Where do we get this EU DigitalCovid-19 Certificate (DCC) you mention...

No word yet officially that I've seen. But I do see that a local pharmacy to me is providing PCR tests for travel with the results going to an app called Health Passport Europe. I would imagine that the EU might build on something like that, I don't know. I would also think that whatever testing centre would also be able to provide paper copies of results for children.

With regards to those of us that have been vaccinated, god knows. Hard to see them using the Health Passport app to put in your PPSN for recognition unless there's an extra layer of security on it maybe a bit like the RevApp? Also, I had my first jab in at the docs, when she uploaded my details she got an error but thinks once that part of the HSE website turns on, all the details will be queued and then upload. (My thinking on it, is that they will all have to be manually input again.) I did ask about the cert, she did say that the Vaccine card that they give you will suffice for travel until the new one is rolled out.

From what I can make out, the vaccine card will be phased out and the DCC will come out in its place. Its the people would have already been vaccinated and want the DCC I think there may be a delay. But then again, as much as I am eager to get away maybe not everyone else is so there might not be a rush for them to be changed over.

Skippette

Skippette wrote: »

The EU DigitalCovid-19 Certificate (DCC) will come into force on the 1st of July for EU countries. In order to obtain it you will need to show that:
- Vaccinated
- tested negative
- recovered from Covid

EU member states can put additional restrictions or allowances with this. For example, Spain have said the UK (so non EU ) can come there with no covid test and Ireland seem to have dismissed the Antigen test. On gov.ie it states all children (7-18)will need a PCR test to enter Ireland.

The traffic light system won't come into play for EU countries unless the sh!t hits the fan I would imagine. So all going well, you will need a negative PCR test taken 72hr before arrival in Italy and you should be good to go. Would be worth checking what Italy may require as in, they may say you need to complete a passenger locator form. I don't know if they do, but I know that Spain requires it and I assume Ireland will still request it.

Just to Clarify
Its only one of those 3 things above you need to show
If fully vaccinated (2 shots of pfizer,moderna or Astrazenica but just one shot of jaansen)
Fully vaccinated means 1 week after your 2nd pfizer
2 weeks after 2nd moderna or Astrazenica or your 1 shot of jaansen

You will not be considered fully vaccinated after only one shot unless its jaansen
So bear that in mind for the cert

A pcr 24hrs before travel will also get you the cert OR proof you've recovered from covid/tested positive in last 6 months

Skippette

Marine Layer wrote: »

Just to Clarify
Its only one of those 3 things above you need to show
If fully vaccinated (2 shots of pfizer,moderna or Astrazenica but just one shot of jaansen)
Fully vaccinated means 1 week after your 2nd pfizer
2 weeks after 2nd moderna or Astrazenica or your 1 shot of jaansen

You will not be considered fully vaccinated after only one shot unless its jaansen
So bear that in mind for the cert

A pcr 24hrs before travel will also get you the cert OR proof you've recovered from covid/tested positive in last 6 months

PCR is 72hr before travel, Antigen is 24hrs before travel according to the framework published on Europa.eu website.

Caranica

maestroamado wrote: »

I have been asking this elsewhere with no joy, you may know.
Where do we get this EU DigitalCovid-19 Certificate (DCC) you mention...

This is May. It won't be available until July. Further information on how and where to get it will be available closer to the time!

maestroamado

Caranica wrote: »

This is May. It won't be available until July. Further information on how and where to get it will be available closer to the time!

Most people plan trips well in advance so i think there should be an advance plan for this...
It may be a wait and see but we should be told this...

Caranica

maestroamado wrote: »

Most people plan trips well in advance so i think there should be an advance plan for this...
It may be a wait and see but we should be told this...

Both the Covid/vaccine and IT landscapes here have changed dramatically in recent weeks. The ability to plan ahead is limited. I wouldn't expect details until late June, which would still be 3 weeks before implementation.

maestroamado

maestroamado wrote: »

Most people plan trips well in advance so i think there should be an advance plan for this...
It may be a wait and see but we should be told this...

19th July is the date, book away.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet for some reason

Gael23

Augeo wrote: »

In Ireland? What's the outdoor mask rule?

I meant in Spain. You have to wear a mask at all times in public

plastik90

Can anyone confirm if the PCR test from HSE walk-in testing centers can be used for travel?
A lof of reports like below saying the HSE won't provide free testing, but do the airlines accept the HSE text to board the flight?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40301615.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0529/1224668-covid-ireland-update/

solerina

Augeo wrote: »

19th July is the date, book away.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet for some reason

Is it that simple ?
If a couple are both fully vaccinated can we just book a holiday in Spain or wherever and head off and return with no need to isolate etc....it seems so normal that I feel I am missing something !!

solerina

solerina wrote: »

Is it that simple ?
If a couple are both fully vaccinated can we just book a holiday in Spain or wherever and head off and return with no need to isolate etc....it seems so normal that I feel I am missing something !!

Yes, it will be that simple presuming Covid doesn't throw a spanner in the works. Just about the wherever.......... Ireland has not announced when we can go to the UK without restrictions.

I've a trip booked for the 23rd July and I'm 95% confident I'll be going.