When can we fly to Spain.

naufragos123

maestroamado wrote: »

Have you made any enquiries as to having a test done before you return in Spain. I know it can be done at Malaga Airport but that woulkd not be convenient for me...

I'm having enough stress trying to sort out the pre departure ones. I'll worry about the return a little later.:)

maestroamado

Your fine i understand, i was not aware the Antigen test was ok for Spain until you said so i thought you may know.
There is testing at Malaga Airport if this is where you goin.

Big Daddy Kane

So bloody confusing all of this:(

Caranica

casio4 wrote: »

So am I fully vaccinated with just one AZ jab?

According to the exception list for mandatory hotel quarantine here. It does note that a booster is required though.

maestroamado

casio4 wrote: »

So am I fully vaccinated with just one AZ jab?

People who had the AZ jab said it was discrimination i was told about a Month ago. I did not see it on any official documents as officially confirmed...

naufragos123

maestroamado wrote: »

People who had the AZ jab said it was discrimination i was told about a Month ago. I did not see it on any official documents as officially confirmed...

Whatever about discrimination it is certainly unfair. People who got AZ, like yours truly, have to wait longer to be fully vaccinated. In my case I'm 5 weeks on from my first jab and if it was Pzifer I'd be one week away from fully vaccinated. As it stands I'm several weeks away even with the narrowing of the gap. Given that we AZ people are also mainly in an older cohert, 60-70, it certainly does seem quite discriminatory.

EagererBeaver

If only when designing the vaccination program and then actually administering it, the relevant organs of the state had thought to take account of the implications for those who wanted to go on holiday.

naufragos123

EagererBeaver wrote: »

If only when designing the vaccination program and then actually administering it, the relevant organs of the state had thought to take account of the implications for those who wanted to go on holiday.

But you see "holiday" is a very dirty word if it's outside the country. So they've done everything in their power to shut it down. :mad:

Caranica

maestroamado wrote: »

People who had the AZ jab said it was discrimination i was told about a Month ago. I did not see it on any official documents as officially confirmed...

Check out the exemptions from MHQ list which gives the timeline for each vaccine.

maestroamado

Caranica wrote: »

Check out the exemptions from MHQ list which gives the timeline for each vaccine.

I am passing on what i was told as i do not really fallow this as too much chatter.
However i did get useful info here today which means i can travel next week if i choose...

Caranica

You passed on hearsay and twice I directed you to a government document that sets out specific definitions of fully vaccinated according to Irish rules.

maestroamado

Caranica wrote: »

You passed on hearsay and twice I directed you to a government document that sets out specific definitions of fully vaccinated according to Irish rules.

I You come across as a difficult person, a forum is about hearsay-chatter...
The hearsay you mention i was made aware of a Month before your comment...

I would rather be lost than be guided by some people as the journey is the fun...

EagererBeaver

maestroamado wrote: »

I You come across as a difficult person, a forum is about hearsay-chatter...
The hearsay you mention i was made aware of a Month before your comment...

I would rather be lost than be guided by some people as the journey is the fun...

Did you see that on a poster in HMV in 2003 or something?

The difficulty with pseudo-intellectual bollocks such as this is that you're talking about international travel during a ****ing pandemic. If you don't allow yourself to be "guided" (i.e. understand and follow the rules) then the "fun" you'll be having will feature an awful lot of not getting on planes and quarantine.

maestroamado

rBeaver wrote: »

Did you see that on a poster in HMV in 2003 or something?

The difficulty with pseudo-intellectual bollocks such as this is that you're talking about international travel during a ****ing pandemic. If you don't allow yourself to be "guided" (i.e. understand and follow the rules) then the "fun" you'll be having will feature an awful lot of not getting on planes and quarantine.

For me the word "hearsay" is a courtroom word and most of what is on a forum is general info, i listen to everyone but will not be pushed.
I have booked based on the useful info i got right here....

solerina

Caranica wrote: »

According to the exception list for mandatory hotel quarantine here. It does note that a booster is required though.

I know I saw a tweet from Fergal Bowers the RTE correspondent saying that you were not classed as fully vaccinated until after the second dose of AZ for travel purposes. He is usually pretty reliable for facts.

DamienDarts

Looking for a bit of advise please.
Myself and my wife are fully vaccinated now.
Can we travel to Mallorca the last week of July with two kids under 6?
And would we be welcome over there?
Thinking of Santa Ponsa.

Big Daddy Kane

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/europe/europeantravellers-given-green-light-as-digital-cert-passes-eu-parliament-40520227.html

gaillimh

DamienDarts wrote: »

Looking for a bit of advise please.
Myself and my wife are fully vaccinated now.
Can we travel to Mallorca the last week of July with two kids under 6?
And would we be welcome over there?
Thinking of Santa Ponsa.

Do yourself a favour. Stay in Port de Pollenca instead of Santa Ponsa.
Lots of nice 2 and 3 bed apartments there.
Lovely beach and restaurants.
Have been twice with small kids and highly recommend the place.
One million times nicer than Santa Ponsa.

Caranica

solerina wrote: »

I know I saw a tweet from Fergal Bowers the RTE correspondent saying that you were not classed as fully vaccinated until after the second dose of AZ for travel purposes. He is usually pretty reliable for facts.

It's been changed. We were sent the info in work as we would have a lot of international staff. It definitely was 28 days after dose 1, it's now 15 days after dose 2.

maestroamado

solerina wrote: »

I know I saw a tweet from Fergal Bowers the RTE correspondent saying that you were not classed as fully vaccinated until after the second dose of AZ for travel purposes. He is usually pretty reliable for facts.

Fergal is correct as not fully vaccined.
There had to be a compromise as people getting the AZ would be discriminated against as given there is 12 weeks between 1 and 2 + a 2 week wait after jab 2 it was not really an option to leave these people out.
I assume this a pan Europe decision??

EagererBeaver

maestroamado wrote: »

Fergal is correct as not fully vaccined.
There had to be a compromise as people getting the AZ would be discriminated against as given there is 12 weeks between 1 and 2 + a 2 week wait after jab 2 it was not really an option to leave these people out.
I assume this a pan Europe decision??

Please stop talking ****e about discrimination.

Strazdas

Caranica wrote: »

It's been changed. We were sent the info in work as we would have a lot of international staff. It definitely was 28 days after dose 1, it's now 15 days after dose 2.

Is that info even correct? The government has revealed very few details about how the EU digital green cert will actually work for Irish citizens, only the date it will go live (July 19th). The media here has received or published no formal information on this, so I'm not sure how your workplace would be in the know. This sounds more like speculation than actual hard info.

maestroamado

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Please stop talking ****e about discrimination.

I will say as i please.
This is the reason that people who are not fully vaccined are being allowed travel. This decision was not made in Ireland and we had no say in it...

Caranica

Strazdas wrote: »

Is that info even correct? The government has revealed very few details about how the EU digital green cert will actually work for Irish citizens, only the date it will go live (July 19th). The media here has received or published no formal information on this, so I'm not sure how your workplace would be in the know. This sounds more like speculation than actual hard info.

I'm referring to the exemption list here https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/a6975-mandatory-hotel-quarantine/

It details how soon after vaccination you are considered to be fully vaccinated. You'll see it's an official government website, not speculation.

maestroamado

Strazdas wrote: »

Is that info even correct? The government has revealed very few details about how the EU digital green cert will actually work for Irish citizens, only the date it will go live (July 19th). The media here has received or published no formal information on this, so I'm not sure how your workplace would be in the know. This sounds more like speculation than actual hard info.

This decision as was made in Europe, were told all along we may not be able to travel this summer and then we were told maybe the end of August,
The EU made the decision and each Country had the option to opt in, we had little choice but go with it.
It now seems like a single pan-Europe and is being created elsewhere, i assume there will be a link like boarding pass when we want to travel.
I am not as confident as others we will be ready but i heard Leo on the radio a couple of weeks ago talking about percentage of people who had got vaccined so we will know in July...

TimHorton

maestroamado wrote: »

This decision as was made in Europe, were told all along we may not be able to travel this summer and then we were told maybe the end of August,
The EU made the decision and each Country had the option to opt in, we had little choice but go with it.
It now seems like a single pan-Europe and is being created elsewhere, i assume there will be a link like boarding pass when we want to travel.
I am not as confident as others we will be ready but i heard Leo on the radio a couple of weeks ago talking about percentage of people who had got vaccined so we will know in July...

"Leo" has a habit of telling lies. #leotheliar

Osk

A query on the Digital Green Cert if anyone knows!

"The pass will allow anyone who has been fully vaccinated, can provide a negative Covid-19 test or has recovered from the virus to travel within the EU."

Do I read this as anyone who has been fully vaccinated OR can provide a negative Covid-19 test or has recovered from the virus to travel within the EU? Is proof of vaccination enough or will we still need negative tests?

Sr. Pirotecnic

Osk wrote: »

A query on the Digital Green Cert if anyone knows!

"The pass will allow anyone who has been fully vaccinated, can provide a negative Covid-19 test or has recovered from the virus to travel within the EU."

Do I read this as anyone who has been fully vaccinated OR can provide a negative Covid-19 test or has recovered from the virus to travel within the EU? Is proof of vaccination enough or will we still need negative tests?

The eu digital covid cert is up and running in some regions of Spain, incl where I live. AFAIK You can get it on the basis of ANY of the three reasons. I had the Janssen jab a week ago but not enough time has elapsed for me to be given the cert. I will try again next week.

maestroamado

Sr. Pirotecnic wrote: »

The eu digital covid cert is up and running in some regions of Spain, incl where I live. AFAIK You can get it on the basis of ANY of the three reasons. I had the Janssen jab a week ago but not enough time has elapsed an me to be given the cert. I will try again next week.

Can i ask where do we contact to get the said cert...
You are in Spain so you will likely know this...
Spain have been using QR codes for the SpTH for about a year...
Is the EU digital cert separate to this...

JustAThought

Hotel Quarentine just extended here til end of July. Countries changing their regulations daily.

freida

Osk wrote: »

A query on the Digital Green Cert if anyone knows!

"The pass will allow anyone who has been fully vaccinated, can provide a negative Covid-19 test or has recovered from the virus to travel within the EU."

Do I read this as anyone who has been fully vaccinated OR can provide a negative Covid-19 test or has recovered from the virus to travel within the EU? Is proof of vaccination enough or will we still need negative tests?

Someone on the fly me to the moon thread in the coronavirus forum has posted that,two vaccinated persons leaving ireland were able to travel on a ryanair flight without pcr or other tests and were allowed enter spain. Having previously entered their vaccination details in the spanish passenger locator form, which generated a qr code for them to scan entering spain. Its only heresay. But sounds promising
It was yesterday if you want to read back over it

Edited to add it was a post by faceman

Osk

freida wrote: »

Someone on the fly me to the moon thread in the coronavirus forum has posted that,two vaccinated persons leaving ireland were able to travel on a ryanair flight without pcr or other tests and were allowed enter spain. Having previously entered their vaccination details in the spanish passenger locator form, which generated a qr code for them to scan entering spain. Its only heresay. But sounds promising
It was yesterday if you want to read back over it

Edited to add it was a post by faceman

Sounds very promising - thanks for that! Tentative plans for later in the year so I'll keep an eye on all threads!

casio4

freida wrote: »

Someone on the fly me to the moon thread in the coronavirus forum has posted that,two vaccinated persons leaving ireland were able to travel on a ryanair flight without pcr or other tests and were allowed enter spain. Having previously entered their vaccination details in the spanish passenger locator form, which generated a qr code for them to scan entering spain. Its only heresay. But sounds promising
It was yesterday if you want to read back over it

Edited to add it was a post by faceman

Wonder what vaccine details they put in as it's just a batch number of the vaccine and date written on piece of paper if that were the case we could use a vaccinated person's info

freida

casio4 wrote: »

Wonder what vaccine details they put in as it's just a batch number of the vaccine and date written on piece of paper if that were the case we could use a vaccinated person's info

He just says the details. Id say its more likely to be the dates and namd of vaccination received. Not batch numbers. For instance you are considered vaccinated one week after your second dose of pzifer but two weeks after moderna. If you could look at the spanish locator form that might throw some light on it.

Sr. Pirotecnic

maestroamado wrote: »

Can i ask where do we contact to get the said cert...
You are in Spain so you will likely know this...
Spain have been using QR codes for the SpTH for about a year...
Is the EU digital cert separate to this...

As with the vaccine itself, the covid passport is being issued via the regional health boards, Valencia in my case. So I imagine you will get yours from the health body where you live.Don't know anything about SpTH.

Strazdas

maestroamado wrote: »

This decision as was made in Europe, were told all along we may not be able to travel this summer and then we were told maybe the end of August,
The EU made the decision and each Country had the option to opt in, we had little choice but go with it.
It now seems like a single pan-Europe and is being created elsewhere, i assume there will be a link like boarding pass when we want to travel.
I am not as confident as others we will be ready but i heard Leo on the radio a couple of weeks ago talking about percentage of people who had got vaccined so we will know in July...

But we've also heard from the European Commission that member states will be able to tailor fit how the digital green cert is actually implemented for its own citizens i.e. they (Irish govt) will be the ones who decide who is deemed vaccinated and who isn't and cut off points etc.

To the best of my knowledge, the government has revealed very little info on just how the digital cert will work for Irish citizens.

maestroamado

Sr. Pirotecnic wrote: »

As with the vaccine itself, the covid passport is being issued via the regional health boards, Valencia in my case. So I imagine you will get yours from the health body where you live.Don't know anything about SpTH.

Thanks for reply.
The https://www.spth.gob.es/ are the people who look after the passenger Locater form we fill out and is scanned at the Airport on arrival.
I assuming this new covid passport will replace this but the Government here are only saying July 19 which i believe is crazy.
I live in Ireland...

Caranica

Strazdas wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, the government has revealed very little info on just how the digital cert will work for Irish citizens.

Because we're 5 weeks out and work is ongoing. The cyber attack will have caused delays.

John_Mc

We're considering booking a holiday in Mallorca at the end of July. We're late 30's so will probably only have had one vaccination at that point.

Do we know what the story is with MHQ once the travel ban is lifted? Would we be subject to that on our return?

Feria40

John_Mc wrote: »

We're considering booking a holiday in Mallorca at the end of July. We're late 30's so will probably only have had one vaccination at that point.

Do we know what the story is with MHQ once the travel ban is lifted? Would we be subject to that on our return?

You will need a negative PCR test prior to arrival in Ireland.

There is no MHQ for European countries now. Nor will there be home quarantine/isolation after July 19th, provided you arrive in Ireland equipped with a negative PCR result

John_Mc

Feria40 wrote: »

You will need a negative PCR test prior to arrival in Ireland.

There is no MHQ for European countries now. Nor will there be home quarantine/isolation after July 19th, provided you arrive in Ireland equipped with a negative PCR result

Thanks very much

maestroamado

Caranica wrote: »

Because we're 5 weeks out and work is ongoing. The cyber attack will have caused delays.

I was pretty forcefully told here that the vaccine info had not being affected so now it seems it may have being.
If this is so we should have being advised.

A bit of respect to our citizens who are doing all they are asked be nice.
Its absolutely crazy all our Government know is July i9...

Caranica

Why do you say the vaccine info was affected? It will have been all hands on deck for the IT folk in the HSE and beyond since the cyber attack. It is of significantly greater importance that HSE systems get restored than a digital green certificate.

maestroamado

Caranica wrote: »

Why do you say the vaccine info was affected? It will have been all hands on deck for the IT folk in the HSE and beyond since the cyber attack. It is of significantly greater importance that HSE systems get restored than a digital green certificate.

I was very forcefully told i was wrong about this here...
If the info was not affected why is there be no information available...

I think if there were a few more on board in HSE, IT it may not have happened...
What is most important is we have confidence in our decisions makers to carry out what they have agreed on our behalf...
July 19 not acceptable for me...

logie101

I’m in my 40’s fully and fully vaccinated. I have an essential business reason to travel to Spain at the end of June.

Does being fully vaccinated make any difference? Do I still need to quarantine at home and have a negative PCR test?

EagererBeaver

logie101 wrote: »

I’m in my 40’s fully and fully vaccinated. I have an essential business reason to travel to Spain at the end of June.

Does being fully vaccinated make any difference? Do I still need to quarantine at home and have a negative PCR test?

No. Yes, yes.

maestroamado

logie101 wrote: »

I’m in my 40’s fully and fully vaccinated. I have an essential business reason to travel to Spain at the end of June.

Does being fully vaccinated make any difference? Do I still need to quarantine at home and have a negative PCR test?

You will need to be tested before you leave, it costs €49 at Dub and result in an Hour, you need to have PCR test for return which is available at various costs through Spain, Malaga i have details of if you need...

I think the negative test PCR means we can move freely on return but i am open to correction...

EagererBeaver

It's not hard, lads.

https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/spain/#travelfrom

Mandatory quarantine requirements apply to all persons who have been overseas in the 14-days prior to entering Ireland. A 14-day quarantine period must be undertaken at the address specified on the Passenger Locator Form. Arrivals from designated states , including in transit, are subject to mandatory hotel quarantine...

maestroamado

I note this morning that it seems we will now have to have the second AZ jab for vaccine passport...

JustAThought

maestroamado wrote: »

I note this morning that it seems we will now have to have the second AZ jab for vaccine passport...

Seems obvious. Reading the front pages of the papers yesterday it seems that an annual jab to update the vax may now also be needed. Will that be a requirement also in the future to travel? Jury still out on whether vaccine types can be mixed and interchanged. Worrying times.

Was poking around the internet yesterday & came across the different curfew regulations and restrictions in different areas/‘counties in Spain - some being fought through the local courts. All Spanish travel is not equal it seems - curfews, restrictions in numbers gathering etc