Female Police officer stabbed to death in France

Cordell

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biko

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Are ISIS the only people to use child soldiers this way?

It happens in Africa also - Boko Haram and other African groups.
Why do you ask?

Timberrrrrrrr

Cordell wrote: »

Defending a woman having her child holding up a death threat it's quite a strange way of defending them as non radicals.

Where have I defended them?

Again, a very strange defending of muslims, by suggesting there are others just as bad as them.
And to answer your question, there may be others, and Europe should be wary of all of them.

And again, where have I defended them?

In this thread and others we have had posters say

The majority of Muslims support the likes of ISIS

That Muslims should be vetted on entering the country.

If a Muslim commits any crime they should be deported.

If a Muslim commits a crime.then they, thier parents and thier siblings should all be deported (it doesn't matter if they were born in Ireland)

And the ridiculous suggestion that any Muslims immigrants should be chaperoned by an unpaid volunteer for ten years to help them assimilate to "Irish culture" :rolleyes:

Wether you would like to admit it or not there are some posters in these threads that have a hatred of Muslims and all things Islamic.

Timberrrrrrrr

biko wrote: »

It happens in Africa also - Boko Haram and other African groups.
Why do you ask?

I've never seen you or anyone else mention them, I guess those children being forced to kill are not as scary as De Mooslims right?

Cordell

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Where have I defended them?

Right here, by saying that it's not that bad to have a child hold up a death threat because he doesn't understand it anyway.
And in general by pointing out that there's already home grown fundamentalism in the western world so we should have no big issue with importing even more, no matter id it's even more dangerous.

DerekC16

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I've never seen you or anyone else mention them, I guess those children being forced to kill are not as scary as De Mooslims right?

You're a pathetic individual.

WrenBoy

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I've never seen you or anyone else mention them, I guess those children being forced to kill are not as scary as De Mooslims right?

People have every right and good reason to be wary of the increasing population/impact of islam on Europe in light of almost world wide civil unrest and attacks in recent years.
This ridiculous argument that you have to have spoken out on every injustice that ever happened in the world to speak about a certain one is puerile imo.

jmreire

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

OK, so it's only islam/Muslims when it suits your agenda :pac:

Nope. Both building bombings were then and still are officially the activities of Chechen Muslim seperatists. The 3rd attempt was not an actual bombing attempt, again officially, it was to test the building security.
So officially these two actual bombings were all the work of Chechen Muslim seperatists, and the 3rd was a security check, to make sure that the security system put in place in apartment blocks after the two previous bombings was working.
However outside agencys believe it was all planned by Boris Yeltsin to propel his protege Vladimir Putin into power.
And in the 3 years 2010 to 2013, there were a total of 4 bombings. ( your post ) When you consider the thousands killed and the mass destruction in both the Chechen wars, and the level of anger that exists there, thats pretty tight control on terrorism in my book anyway. And in the Caucasus, there is still lots of unrest, it has not gone away, and thats why I deliberately excluded Chechnya in my original post. Chechens themselves are not convinced that the last war is finished yet.

jmreire

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I've never seen you or anyone else mention them, I guess those children being forced to kill are not as scary as De Mooslims right?

But they are De Mooslims,..Boko Haram are affiliated to isis ( since the most of them got kicked out of Syria,,they have been cropping up in many places, like in Afghanistan or any countrys where there is unrest that they can exploit. ) So far in Nigeria, the death toll is 30'000, and 3 million people displaced. They rose to fame ( if thats the correct word...) after they kidnapped nearly 300 girls from a school. But they had been active long before that. They want a pure Islamic state, hence the name "Boko Haram" which means western teachings forbidden. Because its in Africa, it doesn't get the headlines it would receive if it was happening in this part of thne world. But they are Islamic terrorists, pure and simple and dont mind using child soldiers. And like isis, al queada etc, they totally disregard the wishes of their fellow Muslims, who want nothing to do with them or their version of Islam.

biko

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I've never seen you or anyone else mention them, I guess those children being forced to kill are not as scary as De Mooslims right?

Nor have I seen you pour your heart out for Africans. Ah well maybe one day

This thread isn't about African child soldiers but feel free to start a thread on that.
This thread is about ISIS who inspired or ordered Jamel to kill Stephanie*.




*the victim in case her name eludes you.

Timberrrrrrrr

Cordell wrote: »

Right here, by saying that it's not that bad to have a child hold up a death threat because he doesn't understand it anyway.
And in general by pointing out that there's already home grown fundamentalism in the western world so we should have no big issue with importing even more, no matter id it's even more dangerous.

Please point out where I said this.

Timberrrrrrrr

biko wrote: »

Nor have I seen you pour your heart out for Africans. Ah well maybe one day

This thread isn't about African child soldiers but feel free to start a thread on that.
This thread is about ISIS who inspired or ordered Jamel to kill Stephanie*.




*the victim in case her name eludes you.

Your concern for her is touching, even if we all know your real agenda in this thread

Cordell

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Please point out where I said this.

You know where and you're being very dishonest in using this tactic and I'm not biting anymore

biko

I don't see why bringing Islamists to Ireland will benefit the population.
Some may disagree but I'd rather than Ireland remains safe than we risk the lives of citizens for some leftist agenda.

Tbh, I am baffled some people will want to bring homophobes, sexists and antisemites into a country that just recently have throw off the shackles of religion and allowed same sex marriages.
Why do these people want to revert to darker days? It's a mystery.

biko

biko wrote: »

I don't see why bringing Islamists to Ireland will benefit the population.
Some may disagree but I'd rather than Ireland remains safe than we risk the lives of citizens for some leftist agenda.

Tbh, I am baffled some people will want to bring homophobes, sexists and antisemites into a country that just recently have throw off the shackles of religion and allowed same sex marriages.
Why do these people want to revert to darker days? It's a mystery.

I don't see what someone's religion has to Do with it? Surely their circumstances, ability to work, need for migration are the important factors?
Do you think the millions of Muslims believe exactly what you have listed above?

Danzy

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The difference is the child probably doesn't even understand the sign he is holding whereas the woman clearly knows what she is saying.


You probably see nothing wrong with these placards either

Are you adding the Westborough Church to those you defend??

Going by the photos which I think was if them, that said they might be Islamic, their signs wouldn't raise an eyebrow outside any mainstream mosque.

Dyr

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

When was the last time Islam/Muslims affected your life?

When was the last time Christianity/christians affected your life?

I guarantee the first has never affected you

I guarantee the second has affected you


But hey.....De Mooslims are gonna get us all :rolleyes:

From slim straws to no straws at all.

biko

bubblypop wrote: »

I don't see what someone's religion has to Do with it? Surely their circumstances, ability to work, need for migration are the important factors?
Do you think the millions of Muslims believe exactly what you have listed above?

In Ireland in 2016 an Imam invited gays to a meal. But..

members of the Muslim Youth Council of Ireland had questioned his invitation to LGBT people to take part in the Iftar.
“How can you do this? Are you condoning homosexuality?”

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/muslim-leader-criticised-over-insulting-invite-to-gay-people-1.2707041
You think their comments had nothing to do with their religion?

I think you need to ask your Muslims friends about their views about gay people.

jmreire

Bambi wrote: »

From slim straws to no straws at all.

Bambi, I guarantee you if he ever had the misfortune to come in contact with a radical Islamist, ( or any other like minded posters on here) and assuming he / they survived the encounter, you would see a a massive turn around in their opinions. But because its Ireland, and we have yet to see any such attacks here, they feel safe and secure. I hope that their secure bubble never bursts.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Cordell wrote: »

There's plenty wrong and the woman is obviously deranged, but at least she's not abusing her child.

I would disagree.

biko wrote: »

I don't see why bringing Islamists to Ireland will benefit the population.
Some may disagree but I'd rather than Ireland remains safe than we risk the lives of citizens for some leftist agenda.

It occurs to me to ask: what IS an "Islamist" in your mind?

Tbh, I am baffled some people will want to bring homophobes, sexists and antisemites into a country that just recently have throw off the shackles of religion and allowed same sex marriages.
Why do these people want to revert to darker days? It's a mystery.

Because people make the stupid crass generaisation based on religion. **** like this is what makes you look racist.

You say "a country that just recently have throw off the shackles of religion" and yet what proportion of it said it ws Catholic in the last census? This would mean - by your logic - that the country is very much STILL homphobic and sexist.

jmreire

bubblypop wrote: »

I don't see what someone's religion has to Do with it? Surely their circumstances, ability to work, need for migration are the important factors?
Do you think the millions of Muslims believe exactly what you have listed above?

Millions dont, but some do, and even a tiny minority can cause major damage, and, as recent events in Euriope have shown, this minority is active in Europe. And their actuvityt is religion driven. But aside from every thing else, why are we allowing unrestrcted immigration anyway when it has been proven not to have been a success elsewhere?

Mr. Karate

Real Donald Trump wrote: »

Female Police officer stabbed to death in France. The attacker shouted Allahu Akbar before carrying out the attack.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56862436

We don't know the motivation for the attack. :rolleyes:

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

We don't know the motivation for the attack. :rolleyes:

It was a peaceful protest at the price of chocolate Freddo's I think.

biko

biko wrote: »

In Ireland in 2016 an Imam invited gays to a meal. But..
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/muslim-leader-criticised-over-insulting-invite-to-gay-people-1.2707041
You think their comments had nothing to do with their religion?

I think you need to ask your Muslims friends about their views about gay people.

My Muslim friends have no issue with gay people.

jmreire

jmreire wrote: »

Millions dont, but some do, and even a tiny minority can cause major damage, and, as recent events in Euriope have shown, this minority is active in Europe. And their actuvityt is religion driven. But aside from every thing else, why are we allowing unrestrcted immigration anyway when it has been proven not to have been a success elsewhere?

We don't allow unrestricted immigration.
Not sure where people are getting this idea?

Timberrrrrrrr

Cordell wrote: »

You know where and you're being very dishonest in using this tactic and I'm not biting anymore

You can't show me because I never said it, nice try though.

jmreire

DerekC16 wrote: »

You're a pathetic individual.

Ah sure it keeps him happy, continually poking holes in posters opinions, and look at it another way, he's keeping the thread alive and well....you have to admire his stamina .:rolleyes: I'm sure that he would make a great barrister....:D

Timberrrrrrrr

jmreire wrote: »

Bambi, I guarantee you if he ever had the misfortune to come in contact with a radical Islamist, ( or any other like minded posters on here) and assuming he / they survived the encounter, you would see a a massive turn around in their opinions. But because its Ireland, and we have yet to see any such attacks here, they feel safe and secure. I hope that their secure bubble never bursts.

I live in the UK, Close to the Manchester arena that was recently bombed so you are very wrong there kiddo.

Timberrrrrrrr

jmreire wrote: »

Millions dont, but some do, and even a tiny minority can cause major damage, and, as recent events in Euriope have shown, this minority is active in Europe. And their actuvityt is religion driven. But aside from every thing else, why are we allowing unrestrcted immigration anyway when it has been proven not to have been a success elsewhere?

Has Ireland thrown its doors open to everyone? Have you proof of this?

jmreire

bubblypop wrote: »

We don't allow unrestricted immigration.
Not sure where people are getting this idea?

Quote from CSO 2016:-

Table 1.1 Country of origin of non-Irish nationals resident in Ireland classified by number of persons, 2016
Number of nationals
1 - 10 11 - 50 51 - 200 201 - 1,000 1,001 - 10,000 Over 10,000
Andorra Azerbaijan Armenia Albania Afghanistan America
Anguilla Bahrain Bolivia Algeria Australia Brazil
Antigua/Barbuda Barbados Burma Angola Bangladesh France
Bahamas Benin Burundi Argentina Belgium Germany
Belize Bhutan Cuba Austria Bulgaria India
Bermuda Brunei Cyprus Belarus Canada Italy
British Indian Ocean territory Chad Eritrea Bosnia China Latvia
Burkina Faso Costa Rica Guinea Botswana Congo Lithuania
Cambodia Dominica Hong Kong Cameroon Croatia Poland
Cape Verde Dominican Republic Iceland Chile Czech Republic Romania
Cayman Islands East Timor Indonesia Colombia Estonia Spain
Central African Ecuador Ivory Coast Denmark Hungary UK
Faroe Islands Equatorial Guinea Jamaica Egypt Malaysia
French Polynesia Fiji Jordan Ethiopia Mauritius
Gibraltar Gambia Kazakhstan Finland Mexico
Grenada Guatemala Lebanon Georgia Moldova
Guadeloupe Guyana Lesotho Ghana Netherlands
Guam Honduras Liberia Greece New Zealand
Guinea - Bissau Kyrgyzstan Macedonia Iran Nigeria
Haiti Laos Malta Iraq Pakistan
Liechtenstein Luxembourg Palestine Israel Philippines
Macau Maldives Peru Japan Portugal
Madagascar Mali Rwanda Kenya Russian Federation
Monaco Mauritania Sierra Leone Kosovo Saudi Arabia
Montserrat Montenegro Tanzania Kuwait Slovakia
Mozambique Nicaragua Togo Libya South Africa
Namibia Niger Trinidad and Tobago Malawi South Korea
North Korea Panama Tunisia Mongolia Sweden
Papua New Guinea Paraguay Uganda Morocco Thailand
Puerto Rico Salvadoran United Arab Emirates Nepal Turkey
Qatar Samoa Uruguay Norway Ukraine
Reunion Senegal Zambia Oman Venezuela
San Marino Seychelles Serbia
Solomon Islands South Sudan Singapore
St. Kitts and Nevis Swaziland Slovenia
St. Lucia Uzbekistan Somalia
St. Vincents Yemen Sri Lanka
Suriname Sudan
Tonga Switzerland
Turkmenistan Syria
Turks and Caicos Islands Taiwan
Vatican City Vietnam
Western Sahara Zimbabwe
Yugoslavia
Number of countries
44 37 32 43 32 12
Total number of persons
201 949 3,398 22,721 105,341 393,959
Open in Excel: Census 2016 Profile 7 - Migration and Diversity Table 1.1 (XLS 14KB)
But check the CSO web page, and it comes out a lot clearer than copy paste. Plus its nearly 5 years out of date, and I'm pretty sure that the next census will show increases.