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Arlene, Edwin, her replacement and his replacement as leader of the DUP

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    #452
    Dyr
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    An Claidheamh wrote: »
    Amazing how triggered the ET types get by

    The gas thing about all the ET school I know is that the kids are nearly always white and middle class, while the national schools are like the UN

    Schools for kids who wear Benneton as oppsed to kids who appear in Benneton ads :D


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    #453
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Bambi wrote: »
    The gas thing about all the ET school I know is that the kids are nearly always white and middle class, while the national schools are like the UN

    Schools for kids who wear Benneton as oppsed to kids who appear in Benneton ads :D

    Racist much?

    ET schools are national schools.

    Anyway I am deriving great satisfaction from the sheer stupidity of the posts defending the sectarian status quo, is that the best you can do lads? The catholic church is f**ked and it'll be a great day when it's finally forced to release its grip upon the schools we, not it, pay for.

    © 1982 Sinclair Research Ltd



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    #454
    RandomViewer
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Racist much?

    ET schools are national schools.

    Anyway I am deriving great satisfaction from the sheer stupidity of the posts defending the sectarian status quo, is that the best you can do lads? The catholic church is f**ked and it'll be a great day when it's finally forced to release its grip upon the schools we, not it, pay for.

    I know of a protestant secondary school in the Republic which doesn't teach evolution and don't do SPHE( think that's what it's called),


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    #455
    lurleen lumpkin
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    Jim Wells being Jim Wells.

    https://twitter.com/LPattersonMYP/status/1388565040631066627?s=19


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    #456
    FrancieBrady
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    lurleen lumpkin wrote: »
    Jim Wells being Jim Wells.

    https://twitter.com/LPattersonMYP/status/1388565040631066627?s=19

    Arlene banished him, but he's got his feet back under the table now with Poots. They will drive voters away in droves unless they can talk up the 'threat to the Union' stuff.

    Unionism is in a right pickle.


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    #457
    gmisk
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    UDAWINNER wrote: »
    Makes me laugh when I see Arlene being referred as a moderate, she's a homophobic, anti Irish bigot. The quicker her Ilk are removed from politics, the better.
    She is a moderate for someone in the DUP....is the point.
    Especially compared to the person who looks likely to be succeeding her...


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    #458
    Bluebell woods
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    Old dogs and children and watermelon wine


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    #459
    jimmycrackcorm
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote:
    Also there is a large segment of their grassroots who will never get over the fact that she's CoI not Presbyterian.

    I certainly believe that the membership is trying to go back to the old Paisleyite days and this a a sufficient contributing factor.


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    #460
    Junkyard Tom
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    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    I certainly believe that the membership is trying to go back to the old Paisleyite days and this a a sufficient contributing factor.

    Just when they need to be trying to widen the appeal of Unionism they look set to be reverting to their old Paisleyite fundamentalism with an emphasis on the mental.

    It'll be interesting to see if Unionists have the sense to vote for Alliance as it's their best hope of taking the wind out of the sails of unification advocates.


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    #461
    [Deleted User]
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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Statement of fact if you ask me but we can't say things like that any more. :rolleyes:




    Why can't you say things like that anymore?
    Is there something wrong with the phrases?


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    #462
    Fionn1952
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Just when they need to be trying to widen the appeal of Unionism they look set to be reverting to their old Paisleyite fundamentalism with an emphasis on the mental.

    It'll be interesting to see if Unionists have the sense to vote for Alliance as it's their best hope of taking the wind out of the sails of unification advocates.

    The 'SF First Minister' scare stories will start and I predict the majority of the votes that look like they're drifting to other parties will panic and revert back to DUP when in the actual voting booth.


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    FrancieBrady
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    Fionn1952 wrote: »
    The 'SF First Minister' scare stories will start and I predict the majority of the votes that look like they're drifting to other parties will panic and revert back to DUP when in the actual voting booth.

    Will certainly be interesting to see if that happens. I'm wondering though have a lot of Unionists had enough.


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    #464
    FrancieBrady
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    Borders, borders everywhere! :)
    Uniting the party after a divisive election battle will be a big task for the new leader.

    We could easily end up with a border down the middle of the DUP.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-56961548


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    #465
    FrancieBrady
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    Jeffery's in,

    https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1389158014817644544/photo/1


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    #466
    Annasopra
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    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    The grassroots definitely don't want a a moderate.

    The end for Arlene was on the cards once she went to the Ulster final and got a
    warm welcome.

    Neither choice is a moderate
    Donaldson used to assist Enoch Powell
    Poots is a hardline free presbyterian

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #467
    Annasopra
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    oisinog wrote: »
    Sir Jeffrey won't take the leadership firstly he is an MP and not an MLA, you need an MLA to lead the party and hold the first minister role.

    If he was co-oped into the assembley they would have to fire an MLA and this would create a bi-election in Lagan Valley and with the shifts in demographics there is the potential to loose the seat if voting shifted to UUP and alliance who had an increase in 9k in votes in the last election

    Leader and First Minister dont have to be tye same person

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #468
    Mad_maxx
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    parking his wacky" young - four thousand year old earth " belief for a minute

    has Poots any kind of intellectual rigour about him ?

    i dont know much about him , agricultural minister is not exactly a top portfolio which is the highest he has gotten so far


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    Faugheen
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    Annasopra wrote: »
    Leader and First Minister dont have to be tye same person

    They could easily get an MLA to resign and co-opt Donaldson in their place.


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    #470
    Annasopra
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    They could easily get an MLA to resign and co-opt Donaldson in their place.

    I understand Donaldson and Poots both want to be leader but not First Minister

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #471
    gmisk
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    parking his wacky" young - four thousand year old earth " belief for a minute

    has Poots any kind of intellectual rigour about him ?

    i dont know much about him , agricultural minister is not exactly a top portfolio which is the highest he has gotten so far
    No.
    He struggles in interviews debates etc whenever I have seen him questioned.

    An interesting choice would be Gavin Robinson...but seemingly the fact his wife campaigned for getting rid of conversion therapy, and that has damaged his chances (as bizarre as it sounds).


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    #472
    Beasty
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    The OP has contacted me to suggest a change in thread title, which is now done


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    #473
    Zebra3
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    lurleen lumpkin wrote: »
    Jim Wells being Jim Wells.

    https://twitter.com/LPattersonMYP/status/1388565040631066627?s=19

    I wonder has he ever used the term "Ulster" to refer to NI.


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    #474
    Mad_maxx
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    gmisk wrote: »
    No.
    He struggles in interviews debates etc whenever I have seen him questioned.

    An interesting choice would be Gavin Robinson...but seemingly the fact his wife campaigned for getting rid of conversion therapy, and that has damaged his chances (as bizarre as it sounds).

    are the base of the party really that energised by the " gay conversion therapy ban " vote ?

    sounds like a juicy angle the media might like to exaggerate

    the base were unhappy about Arlene for quite a while


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    #475
    FrancieBrady
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    It will be interesting to see if Poots holds his support now Donaldson is in the race. I doubt Donaldson entered the fray without sensing a chance to win it. He is too wily for that.


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    RandomViewer
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see if Poots holds his support now Donaldson is in the race. I doubt Donaldson entered the fray without sensing a chance to win it. He is too wily for that.

    Could be just to make it look democratic rather than a coronation


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    gmisk
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    are the base of the party really that energised by the " gay conversion therapy ban " vote ?

    sounds like a juicy angle the media might like to exaggerate

    the base were unhappy about Arlene for quite a while
    I have no idea about the base.
    But banning conversion therapy was clearly an issue...20+ all unionists voted against at and a large number abstained including Arlene


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    #478
    breezy1985
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    are the base of the party really that energised by the " gay conversion therapy ban " vote ?

    sounds like a juicy angle the media might like to exaggerate

    the base were unhappy about Arlene for quite a while

    Probably unhappy because she isn't homophobic enough


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    Seth Brundle
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    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Could be just to make it look democratic rather than a coronation
    The DUP is proud to take an anti-democratic stance when it comes to things like the GFA so I doubt that they are concerned whether their new leader is chosen by democratic means or not


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    #480
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    I saw a chart run down of some of the runners and riders for head of the DUP
    It's attached there if anyone wants a gander :)


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    #481
    RandomViewer
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    The DUP is proud to take an anti-democratic stance when it comes to things like the GFA so I doubt that they are concerned whether their new leader is chosen by democratic means or not

    I know of a few cases where a council seat became vacant and a show vote was done for the co-opted candidate, 2 different parties, journeyman puts name down for decoration


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