Arlene, Edwin, her replacement and his replacement as leader of the DUP

BonnieSituation · 10-05-2021 10:24am

Election on May 14th. Result expected around 5pm.

FrancieBrady · 10-05-2021 6:23pm

Interesting article on Donaldson here. Didn't know about this. Sounds like something that may resurface if he gets the gig.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/jeffrey-donaldson-sued-us-heres-why-were-going-public/?utm_source=tw

lurleen lumpkin · 10-05-2021 6:37pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Interesting article on Donaldson here. Didn't know about this. Sounds like something that may resurface if he gets the gig.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/jeffrey-donaldson-sued-us-heres-why-were-going-public/?utm_source=tw

Also the sort of stand up guy who gets a super injunction to stop us from finding out which specific flavour of adult entertainment he enjoys (and charges to his expenses) in his London hotel rooms.

breezy1985 · 10-05-2021 6:48pm

lurleen lumpkin wrote: »

Also the sort of stand up guy who gets a super injunction to stop us from finding out which specific flavour of adult entertainment he enjoys (and charges to his expenses) in his London hotel rooms.

In fairness that should be no one's business but his.

His fetishes I mean not who he charges them to obviously

Seth Brundle · 10-05-2021 6:50pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

In fairness that should be no one's business but his.

Unless they contradict party policy?

breezy1985 · 10-05-2021 6:56pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Unless they contradict party policy?

Well then the porn the hotel the trip away and the fun that comes with those things are all a problem for him

RandomViewer · 10-05-2021 6:59pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

In fairness that should be no one's business but his.

His fetishes I mean not who he charges them to obviously

£600 odd quid in expenses for hotel movies, from memory

Seth Brundle · 10-05-2021 7:03pm

Is there more information about this alleged incident? I wasn't aware of it until now.

breezy1985 · 10-05-2021 7:06pm

RandomViewer wrote: »

£600 odd quid in expenses for hotel movies, from memory

£600 is a lot. I hope he spent a few quid on lotion too

lurleen lumpkin · 10-05-2021 7:19pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Is there more information about this alleged incident? I wasn't aware of it until now.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/i-just-watched-family-movies-says-jeffrey-donaldson-28486800.html

RandomViewer · 10-05-2021 7:19pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

£600 is a lot. I hope he spent a few quid on lotion too

Rumour is he usually ordered a fish supper

realdanbreen · 13-05-2021 11:47am

Sir J has ramped up his bid apparently saying if elected he will cut all North/South discussions. it's a bit late in the day for this guy to try and become a hard man.

skimpydoo · 13-05-2021 12:40pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

Sir J has ramped up his bid apparently saying if elected he will cut all North/South discussions. it's a bit late in the day for this guy to try and become a hard man.

Sir J?

Loafing Oaf · 13-05-2021 12:41pm

skimpydoo wrote: »

Sir J?

presume he means donaldson...

BonnieSituation · 13-05-2021 12:44pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

Sir J has ramped up his bid apparently saying if elected he will cut all North/South discussions. it's a bit late in the day for this guy to try and become a hard man.

Did he give a half coherent Reason?

God unionism is pathetic.

realdanbreen · 13-05-2021 12:47pm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Did he give a half coherent Reason?

God unionism is pathetic.

I guess it's because of the mess they are in as a result of brexit- which they pushed hard for in the first place!

BonnieSituation · 13-05-2021 1:19pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

I guess it's because of the mess they are in as a result of brexit- which they pushed hard for in the first place!

Oh aye. But he won't say that. So I was interested in what excuse he would use?

Election is tomorrow, so time to up the rhetoric.

RandomViewer · 13-05-2021 6:00pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

Sir J has ramped up his bid apparently saying if elected he will cut all North/South discussions. it's a bit late in the day for this guy to try and become a hard man.

Sammy lent him the Harley and the leather trousers, mightnt be the image they were hoping for

Seth Brundle · 14-05-2021 4:46pm

Poots has won apparently
Lets see what moves he makes now

https://twitter.com/SJAMcBride/status/1393230540409556995

Atlantic Dawn · 14-05-2021 4:49pm

Things will implode.

gmisk · 14-05-2021 4:55pm

The fact the vote was so close shows how divided the DUP are....I see Paula Bradley got the deputy...she is at the opposite side to Poots!
If they go more unionist which they will under Poots...a lot of people will move to the alliance I would guess...good news! Or the UUP (meh news)

Larbre34 · 14-05-2021 5:01pm

Best news for aspiring United Irelanders everywhere.

Poots is a outlier even in pan Unionist terms and I hope he repeats the mistakes of his predecessors and collapses Stormont so the Tories who don't care about them will continue to operate the Brexit agreements unilaterally and ultimately erode whats left of Unionist influence on basically everything.

As an anti Shinner also, any loss of SF profile in NI is only to be welcomed.

Cole · 14-05-2021 5:05pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Things will implode.

Looking forward to it...an ever present toxic influence on NI politics might eventually recede.

McMurphy · 14-05-2021 5:08pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

Best news for aspiring United Irelanders everywhere.

Poots is a outlier even in pan Unionist terms and I hope he repeats the mistakes of his predecessors and collapses Stormont so the Tories who don't care about them will continue to operate the Brexit agreements unilaterally and ultimately erode whats left of Unionist influence on basically everything.

As an anti Shinner also, any loss of SF profile in NI is only to be welcomed.

I suspect you will be sorely disappointed. Michelle O'Neill as the next first minister is most likely a foregone conclusion now.

Poots - an evolution denier will most likely result in the implosion of the DUPers, who now are much more likely to take the staunch path, than the more liberal one.

Unionism will fracture now to the benefit of the likes of the Alliance party I would guess. Shinners to be the biggest party by some distance after the next election up there would be my guess.

The opposite of a loss of profile.

Fionn1952 · 14-05-2021 5:10pm

McMurphy wrote: »

I suspect you will be sorely disappointed. Michelle O'Neill as the next first minister is most likely a foregone conclusion now.

Poots - an evolution denier will most likely result in the implosion of the DUPers, who now are much more likely to take the staunch path, than the more liberal one.

Unionism will fracture now to the benefit of the likes of the Alliance party I would guess. Shinners to be the biggest party by some distance after the next election up there would be my guess.

The opposite of a loss of profile.

Never underestimate the power of enough ranting about Themmuns in NI politics. Expect a strong front on the, 'a vote for anyone but us is a vote for SF' and DUP significantly outperforming the predicted collapse.

14-05-2021 5:17pm

McMurphy wrote: »

I suspect you will be sorely disappointed. Michelle O'Neill as the next first minister is most likely a foregone conclusion now.

Poots - an evolution denier will most likely result in the implosion of the DUPers, who now are much more likely to take the staunch path, than the more liberal one.

Unionism will fracture now to the benefit of the likes of the Alliance party I would guess. Shinners to be the biggest party by some distance after the next election up there would be my guess.

The opposite of a loss of profile.

I'd agree with that analysis but would prefer an alliance DFM
Poots won't serve under a SF FM

FrancieBrady · 14-05-2021 5:17pm

Surprised to be honest.

Cannot see Edwin doing what is required..uniting Unionism.

Fionn1952 · 14-05-2021 5:19pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Surprised to be honest.

Cannot see Edwin doing what is required..uniting Unionism.

When have the DUP, when given the choice between outreach or seige mentality ever chosen the former?

Larbre34 · 14-05-2021 5:21pm

McMurphy wrote: »

I suspect you will be sorely disappointed. Michelle O'Neill as the next first minister is most likely a foregone conclusion now.

Poots - an evolution denier will most likely result in the implosion of the DUPers, who now are much more likely to take the staunch path, than the more liberal one.

Unionism will fracture now to the benefit of the likes of the Alliance party I would guess. Shinners to be the biggest party by some distance after the next election up there would be my guess.

The opposite of a loss of profile.

One cannot be First Minister of a non-existent body.

The DUP and especially a DUP under Poots, will never participate in a NI Assembly with an SF FM. And considering that due to its founding mechanism, an NI Executive cannot sit without the participation of the largest Unionist party, there is essentially no chance of what you describe actually coming to pass.

FrancieBrady · 14-05-2021 5:22pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

When have the DUP, when given the choice between outreach or seige mentality ever chosen the former?

Agree...but they now know what is required to have even an outside chance of avoiding further regression.

Arlene, Edwin, her replacement and his replacement as leader of the DUP

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