Arlene, Edwin, her replacement and his replacement as leader of the DUP

McMurphy

Larbre34 wrote: »

One cannot be First Minister of a non-existent body.

The DUP and especially a DUP under Poots, will never participate in a NI Assembly with an SF FM. And considering that due to its founding mechanism, an NI Executive cannot sit without the participation of the largest Unionist party, there is essentially no chance of what you describe actually coming to pass.

Let's see how much the dups vote potentially collapses before we can decide what relevance Poots and his party will have on things up there after the next election. There's a real chance of a great division between the various unionist party's up there, and a very real chance of the DUPs implosion.

O'Neill/Long anyone?

josip

It's going to be a rough ride.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0513/1221492-dup-leadership-latest/

He said the Northern Ireland Protocol is a massive challenge and if they are to fight it, he wants them to do it together.

He said Northern Ireland's greatest thing is the resilence of its people and that resilience brought people through civil war, depression and IRA campaigns up to 1994.

NIMAN

Says a lot about NI politics, and the DUP in particular, that their leader believes the world is 4000 years old.

Pherekydes

NIMAN wrote: »

Says a lot about NI politics, and the DUP in particular, that their leader believes the world is 4000 years old.

Nah, 6000. He believes it was created 4000 BCE.

JamesFlynn

Says a lot about NI politics, and the DUP in particular, that their leader believes the world is 4000 years old.

Pherekydes wrote: »

Nah, 6000. He believes it was created 4000 BCE.

Thank goodness for that - for a brief moment I thought they'd elected one of those "earth is only 4000 years old" loons. Phew!

bullpost

Pherekydes wrote: »

Nah, 6000. He believes it was created 4000 BCE.

Would love to be a fly on the wall as hes showing off the Giants Causeway to visiting dignitaries and explaining how its not really 50 million years old at all, just a wee 6000 or thereabouts

aido79

bullpost wrote: »

Would love to be a fly on the wall as hes showing off the Giants Causeway to visiting dignitaries and explaining how its not really 50 million years old at all, just a wee 6000 or thereabouts

He's already covered that:

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/creationist-beliefs-wont-affect-new-role-poots-28492087.html

McMurphy

bullpost wrote: »

Would love to be a fly on the wall as hes showing off the Giants Causeway to visiting dignitaries and explaining how its not really 50 million years old at all, just a wee 6000 or thereabouts

It's the perfect ammo to preface any interview tbh.

Interviewer "So Edwin, you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old approximately?"

Poots "yes"

Interviewer smirks, and asks him if he's actually someone that should be let within an asses roar of any decisions that will have an impact on people's lives, and continues smirking until the end of the interview.

golfball37

Fionn1952 wrote: »

When have the DUP, when given the choice between outreach or seige mentality ever chosen the former?

Robinson wasn’t the worst at outreach as first minister. He had other issues though one you’d associate with a FF leader

alchemist33

This would be a good time to laugh at everyone said good riddance to the "hardline" Arlene a few weeks ago.

I think the DUP are now about to die. A fŕiend of mine from the North says her Orange father and unionist mother have already said they won't vote for a Poots DUP.

Esel

The DUP returns to its roots in fun





















damentalism.

Loafing Oaf

Esel wrote: »

The DUP returns to its roots in fun





















damentalism.

I think 'Pootsy' more a man for putting the mentalism rather than the fun into fundamentalism.

breezy1985

alchemist33 wrote: »

This would be a good time to laugh at everyone said good riddance to the "hardline" Arlene a few weeks ago.

I think the DUP are now about to die. A fŕiend of mine from the North says her Orange father and unionist mother have already said they won't vote for a Poots DUP.

Most people who said good riddance the Arlene knew and we're hoping the DUP were going to go this way and continue their forward march to a United Ireland

briany

McMurphy wrote: »

It's the perfect ammo to preface any interview tbh.

Interviewer "So Edwin, you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old approximately?"

Poots "yes"

Interviewer smirks, and asks him if he's actually someone that should be let within an asses roar of any decisions that will have an impact on people's lives, and continues smirking until the end of the interview.

I don't think it's a good tack to have a go at the man based on his personal religious beliefs. If we want to go down that road, the same interviewer could ask a devoutly Catholic Sinn Fein politician whether they believe the Communion bread is the literal body of Christ.

Instead of going that way, it would be just better to ask probing questions about political policy and let readers come to their own conclusions from the answers given.

breezy1985

briany wrote: »

I don't think it's a good tack to have a go at the man based on his personal religious beliefs. If we want to go down that road, the same interviewer could ask a devoutly Catholic Sinn Fein politician whether they believe the Communion bread is the literal body of Christ.

Instead of going that way, it would be just better to ask probing questions about political policy and let readers come to their own conclusions from the answers given.

If his personal religious belief leads him to a professional position of homophobia then it's Poots that has intertwined the two not the interviewer

lurleen lumpkin

briany wrote: »

I don't think it's a good tack to have a go at the man based on his personal religious beliefs. If we want to go down that road, the same interviewer could ask a devoutly Catholic Sinn Fein politician whether they believe the Communion bread is the literal body of Christ.

Instead of going that way, it would be just better to ask probing questions about political policy and let readers come to their own conclusions from the answers given.

His religious beliefs make him a science sceptic. So stuff like this happens.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/07/24/news/edwin-poots-criticised-for-saying-there-is-no-climate-emergency--2014473/

Tyrone212

You know its bad when even the Daily mail top comments are calling him a loon and saying its embarrassing for the UK.

Shebean

I don't think he's going to broaden the membership of a party already on the decline for not being mainstream enough.

RandomViewer

I don't think what the Pootster believes or doesn't is all that important, the fact that he's a bitter, bigoted wee c### is the bigger issue

Penfailed

McMurphy wrote: »

O'Neill/Long anyone?

In the office of FM and DFM? Not possible.

Galwayguy35

Don't know much about the guy, would he be as batsh1t crazy as Jim Allister?

Fuascailteoir

Pherekydes wrote: »

Nah, 6000. He believes it was created 4000 BCE.

Don't be misrepresenting him. He actually thinks that it is 6024 years old

RandomViewer

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Don't know much about the guy, would he be as batsh1t crazy as Jim Allister?

Both members of the Caleb Foundation, ultra Conservative evangelical Christians

BonnieSituation

McMurphy wrote: »

Let's see how much the dups vote potentially collapses before we can decide what relevance Poots and his party will have on things up there after the next election. There's a real chance of a great division between the various unionist party's up there, and a very real chance of the DUPs implosion.

O'Neill/Long anyone?

Poots has said he won't be FM no matter what. Said that when he launched his leadership bid.

AMKC

I really hope that this loony new leader does not last too long as DUP leader. He will not be good for Notyhern Ireland and certainly not good for relationships with Us or the UK.

FrancieBrady

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Poots has said he won't be FM no matter what. Said that when he launched his leadership bid.

Micheál said he'd never go int....never mind.

briany

breezy1985 wrote: »

If his personal religious belief leads him to a professional position of homophobia then it's Poots that has intertwined the two not the interviewer

Then the interviewer can ask Poots his stance on same-sex relationship issues in NI such as being allowed to marry. If Poots says he's against it, the interviewer can ask why. If Poots mentions his religious beliefs as a reason, it can be left up the reader to decide whether they agree with where Poots is coming from.

lurleen lumpkin wrote: »

His religious beliefs make him a science sceptic. So stuff like this happens.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/07/24/news/edwin-poots-criticised-for-saying-there-is-no-climate-emergency--2014473/

I didn't see anything in that particular article that ties his religious beliefs to his take on climate change. We could suppose his religious beliefs has something to do with it, but we could also suppose instead that it has something to do with the general right-wing pushback on climate change which is as much about a paranoia of being nagged and restricted by technocrats handing down carbon taxes and the like.

McMurphy

Penfailed wrote: »

In the office of FM and DFM? Not possible.

yeah forgot they aren't officially unionists and are in fact neutral on the union now.

Penfailed

McMurphy wrote: »

yeah forgot they aren't officially unionists and are in fact neutral on the union now.

The thing about it is, Alliance are labelled as republicans by some loyalists and labelled as unionist by some republicans...

Jizique

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Poots has said he won't be FM no matter what. Said that when he launched his leadership bid.

That’s to avoid being pictured with O’Neill, the constant pictures of Foster with the deputy first minister are unhappy reminders of reality for the UDA/UVF armed wing of the party