The social housing list in Dublin

EddieN75

JimmyCorkhill wrote: »

Myself & the other half who work full time would struggle to get a mortgage for one of these apartments & even if we did get a mortgage we would be paying it off for the next 30+ years.

Why the hell should people on the welfare, the vast majority (pre-Covid) whom have no interest in working, get an apartment worth over 500k?

It's all fairly sickening what's happening. Both the fact that these investment funds are buying up bulk amounts of property and that councils are then renting them and handing them over .

Cilldara_2000

mariaalice wrote: »

12 years
Housing Statistics
Dublin City Council housed 517 households last year, most of whom had been waiting for a home since the mid-2000s, according to the documents. The average waiting time was more than 12 years and one of the households had been on the list since 1996.8 Jul 2020

The way some posters go on you would think social housing is handed out like smarties.

You’d want to be a very committed welfare tourist to hang around for 12 years just to get your free gaff :pac:

clytemnestra

Idbatterim wrote: »

It is when you run into the local garda station with a few angles in tow...

Or if you get St Kitty onto your case.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/tenants-face-jail-after-refusing-to-leave-rented-homes-1.4554424?mode=amp

16 years in Ireland...limited English...no work because of the pandemic. Can't wait for them to be paying for my pension.

Jizique

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

I'd be quite surprised if a big company like Tesco knowingly employs any illegal immigrants. How would they register them for PAYE? Revenue wouldn't accept a fake PPSN and I doubt managers have the authority to be handing out cash.

I never said they were illegal - I have no idea how Tesco organizes their workforce but “language students” and/or outsourced to a temp placement agency using staff registered in Bulgaria to avoid social charges (like the meat plants) perhaps

Jizique

JimmyCorkhill wrote: »

Myself & the other half who work full time would struggle to get a mortgage for one of these apartments & even if we did get a mortgage we would be paying it off for the next 30+ years.

Why the hell should people on the welfare, the vast majority (pre-Covid) whom have no interest in working, get an apartment worth over 500k?

Sickening: they will ensure that Smithfield will remain an “up and coming area” for the next 20 years, just as it has been for the past 20

ek motor

JimmyCorkhill wrote: »

Myself & the other half who work full time would struggle to get a mortgage for one of these apartments & even if we did get a mortgage we would be paying it off for the next 30+ years.

Why the hell should people on the welfare, the vast majority (pre-Covid) whom have no interest in working, get an apartment worth over 500k?

Because they are victims. Victims of racism , discrimination, of evil white people in general. Or so western media would have you believe.

White people (particularly men ) are guilty and must pay for them to move here. If you don't like it, you are a racist. Fair enough ?

EddieN75

ek motor wrote: »

Because they are victims. Victims of racism , discrimination, of evil white people in general. Or so western media would have you believe.

White people (particularly men ) are guilty and must pay for them to move here. If you don't like it, you are a racist. Fair enough ?

The Irish times is the number 1 pusher of this narrative.

Ronaldinho

clytemnestra wrote: »

Or if you get St Kitty onto your case.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/tenants-face-jail-after-refusing-to-leave-rented-homes-1.4554424?mode=amp

16 years in Ireland...limited English...no work because of the pandemic. Can't wait for them to be paying for my pension.

Did you even read the article?

Jinglejangle69

People ranted and raved about the "Homeless" situation for years with all the left parties.

But late in the day to complain now.

People were sold a lie and they swallowed it.

riclad

i think if someone is living in dublin and their income is under a certain amount or they are on welfare the council has to accept them on the housing list.
i think anyone in the eu has the right to travel to any other eu country.most hotels and cafes,gyms are closed .
the people who worked there simply cannot go to work.
theres no such thing as a free gaff .
council tenants pay rents based on their income which includes the income of anyone who lives there who is over the aqe of 18.
in order to apply for hap you need to be on the housing list

Gloomtastic!

riclad wrote: »

in order to apply for hap you need to be on the housing list

So why are there no Romanians (Roma) on the council's lists (see beginning of thread)?

Thelonious Monk

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

So why are there no Romanians (Roma) on the council's lists (see beginning of thread)?

If it makes you feel any better they are a problem all over Europe

Gloomtastic!

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If it makes you feel any better they are a problem all over Europe

As long as they don’t affect me, I have no problem with anyone. But something’s wrong with the stats. Why are they reporting them incorrectly?

Gloomtastic!

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

So why are there no Romanians (Roma) on the council's lists (see beginning of thread)?

Romanians or Roma?
You do know there is a difference right?

Idbatterim

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

People ranted and raved about the "Homeless" situation for years with all the left parties.

But late in the day to complain now.

People were sold a lie and they swallowed it.

I think rte etc and thus the moron politicians, actually think it's the homeless situation people were livid about, it isn't and wasnt. It's the scandalous housing situation facing hundreds of thousands of hard working people, that is the issue...

ThunbergsAreGo

mariaalice wrote: »

12 years
Housing Statistics
Dublin City Council housed 517 households last year, most of whom had been waiting for a home since the mid-2000s, according to the documents. The average waiting time was more than 12 years and one of the households had been on the list since 1996.8 Jul 2020

The way some posters go on you would think social housing is handed out like smarties.

Go on at 18, house by 30 is a great deal.

Many many living at home to save for a house as they can't afford rent.

suicide_circus

Or live in house shares renting a tiny box room...but it would be barbaric to ask council tenants to do that

Idbatterim

suicide_circus wrote: »

Or live in house shares renting a tiny box room...but it would be barbaric to ask council tenants to do that

Very vapid point, how on God's name, are single people housed in luxury apartments, on rip off deals for the taxpayer... the taxpayer living in a box room and paying for his neighbours next door luxury apartment, depraved!

Idbatterim

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Go on at 18, house by 30 is a great deal.

Many many living at home to save for a house as they can't afford rent.

Just sign up as soon as you can, a mate was telling me that in London, they used to rent out their social house and pocket the rent...

JimmyVik

Idbatterim wrote: »

Very vapid point, how on God's name, are single people housed in luxury apartments, on rip off deals for the taxpayer... the taxpayer living in a box room and paying for his neighbours next door luxury apartment, depraved!

I shared a bedsit with a friend of mine from school in Rathmines right after we left school.
We were there about 2 years and I moved abroad to get a job.
He stayed and never worked a day in his life.
About 15 years later, he was given 1 bed apartment in Rathmines.
I was in it last year and its fantastic. It must be worth €500k at this point.
Nice to see my tax money has been well spent.

vriesmays

The corner building over the bridge that burned down and was derelict for years is now full of 1-beds for €2k / month.

oceanman

JimmyVik wrote: »

I shared a bedsit with a friend of mine from school in Rathmines right after we left school.
We were there about 2 years and I moved abroad to get a job.
He stayed and never worked a day in his life.
About 15 years later, he was given 1 bed apartment in Rathmines.
I was in it last year and its fantastic. It must be worth €500k at this point.
Nice to see my tax money has been well spent.

but he was not giving it...he was giving the use of it to live in, he dose not own the property and probably never will.

ThunbergsAreGo

oceanman wrote: »

but he was not giving it...he was giving the use of it to live in, he dose not own the property and probably never will.

What are the chances he gets evicted?

Alot more than a private renter

Geuze

oceanman wrote: »

but he was not giving it...he was giving the use of it to live in, he dose not own the property and probably never will.

True, but non-workers should not be given social housing so close to major employment centres.

If he has never worked, his social housing could be in Longford, much cheaper for the taxpayer.

Mimon

JimmyVik wrote: »

I shared a bedsit with a friend of mine from school in Rathmines right after we left school.
We were there about 2 years and I moved abroad to get a job.
He stayed and never worked a day in his life.
About 15 years later, he was given 1 bed apartment in Rathmines.
I was in it last year and its fantastic. It must be worth €500k at this point.
Nice to see my tax money has been well spent.

Really is an opportunity for a party to step up and stand for the working people/taxpayers. People working need to go to the top of the list and when they are all accommodated the wasters can be looked after.

Fine Gael **** the load when it looked like they might do this but went down the line of least resistance of not doing anything controversial so as appeal to a broader range of people. Severe lack of politicians with any cahones here.

Idbatterim

Mimon wrote: »

Really is an opportunity for a party to step up and stand for the working people/taxpayers. People working need to go to the top of the list and when they are all accommodated the wasters can be looked after.

Fine Gael **** the load when it looked like they might do this but went down the line of least resistance of not doing anything controversial so as appeal to a broader range of people. Severe lack of politicians with any cahones here.

Absolutely, they thought this was the path of least resistance, they are terrified of rte and the leftist media.... open door for a party to form and start with welfare reform. Abolish lpt or start charging it at a proper rate ...

Jinglejangle69

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

What are the chances he gets evicted?

Alot more than a private renter

The chances of him getting evicted are a lot less than a private renter.

ThunbergsAreGo

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

The chances of him getting evicted are a lot less than a private renter.

Sorry that is exactly what I meant

He has more rights than a private renter for less money, in a location of his choice forever.

That is wrong

clytemnestra

Yep. This guy with the outrageous backstory is sitting pretty forever I'm sure.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/social-tenants-in-rathgar-complex-excluded-from-certain-facilities-1.4415042?mode=amp

EddieN75

clytemnestra wrote: »

Yep. This guy with the outrageous backstory is sitting pretty forever I'm sure.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/social-tenants-in-rathgar-complex-excluded-from-certain-facilities-1.4415042?mode=amp

That guy was working in Canada up to 2016. How did he manage to end up in Ireland, skip the social housing queue and end up in a luxury apartment worth €700,000 to €950,000.

ThunbergsAreGo

clytemnestra wrote: »

Yep. This guy with the outrageous backstory is sitting pretty forever I'm sure.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/social-tenants-in-rathgar-complex-excluded-from-certain-facilities-1.4415042?mode=amp

So much entitlement in one piece...

ThunbergsAreGo

EddieN75 wrote: »

That guy was working in Canada up to 2016. How did he manage to end up in Ireland, skip the social housing queue and end up in a luxury apartment worth €700,000 to €950,000.

I would love that question to be answered....

Jinglejangle69

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

So much entitlement in one piece...

And in this country.

It's astonishing.

Just want to add my opinion on this whole thing.
Working on a site and have just finished building 50 plus state of the art apartments in dun laoghaire.
All sold to social housing.
People have started to move in recently.
They are arriving in fairly modern cars, trucks arriving with brand new furniture etc.
Mix of young and old with kids Boyfriends etc.

It's soul destroying when you see your paycheck at the end of the week to see where our taxes are going. Especially when trying to buy a home yourself and just cannot get a foot on the ladder.

Maybe everybody working in this country should just quit there jobs and join them then government will take notice of wtf is going on.

corner of hells

EddieN75 wrote: »

That guy was working in Canada up to 2016. How did he manage to end up in Ireland, skip the social housing queue and end up in a luxury apartment worth €700,000 to €950,000.

How do you know he was in Canada ?

Galwayguy35

clytemnestra wrote: »

Yep. This guy with the outrageous backstory is sitting pretty forever I'm sure.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/social-tenants-in-rathgar-complex-excluded-from-certain-facilities-1.4415042?mode=amp

Says in the article that it was in the agreement the gym wasn't part of the deal so its hardly the fault of anybody else if they didn't bother to read it.

But of course Mannix Flynn won't mention that, instead he comes out with crap like "social apartheid".

oceanman

tommybrees wrote: »

Just want to add my opinion on this whole thing.
Working on a site and have just finished building 50 plus state of the art apartments in dun laoghaire.
All sold to social housing.
People have started to move in recently.
They are arriving in fairly modern cars, trucks arriving with brand new furniture etc.
Mix of young and old with kids Boyfriends etc.

It's soul destroying when you see your paycheck at the end of the week to see where our taxes are going. Especially when trying to buy a home yourself and just cannot get a foot on the ladder.

Maybe everybody working in this country should just quit there jobs and join them then government will take notice of wtf is going on.

how do you know many of those people dont have jobs? people in low paid jobs qualify for social housing too.

clytemnestra

corner of hells wrote: »

How do you know he was in Canada ?

It was on his Twitter account, which he deleted after people drew attention to it. He was living and working in Canada and moaning about how racist they were. He's obviously got a neck like a jockey's proverbial but the story just faded away with no real answers.

purifol0

Sorry if its been mentioned before, but the Social Housing list is secret! Tax payers get no say in who gets a free gaff, but also they don't get to know who is going to get them either.

You would have to be incredibly innocent to think that councils round the land have been doling them out impartially.

clytemnestra

purifol0 wrote: »

Sorry if its been mentioned before, but the Social Housing list is secret! Tax payers get no say in who gets a free gaff, but also they don't get to know who is going to get them either.

You would have to be incredibly innocent to think that councils round the land have been doling them out impartially.

They used to be transparent. Up til at least the early 90s local newspapers would publish full lists of housing allocations, swaps and people taking over tenancies from deceased parents. I'm sure there was some behind the scenes string pulling sometimes - TDs getting involved and so on - but the actual end result was there for everyone to see.

Can you imagine if that happened now? Many new built social housing development in some areas are minority Irish. Even the stats on nationalities on the list doesn't tell the true story because so many have been granted Irish citizenship in the last 20 years.

Jinglejangle69

tommybrees wrote: »

Just want to add my opinion on this whole thing.
Working on a site and have just finished building 50 plus state of the art apartments in dun laoghaire.
All sold to social housing.
People have started to move in recently.
They are arriving in fairly modern cars, trucks arriving with brand new furniture etc.
Mix of young and old with kids Boyfriends etc.

It's soul destroying when you see your paycheck at the end of the week to see where our taxes are going. Especially when trying to buy a home yourself and just cannot get a foot on the ladder.

Maybe everybody working in this country should just quit there jobs and join them then government will take notice of wtf is going on.

It's a farce.

And it is showing no signs of stopping.

Madness.

Jinglejangle69

oceanman wrote: »

how do you know many of those people dont have jobs? people in low paid jobs qualify for social housing too.

Majority in social housing don't work.

Fann Linn

oceanman wrote: »

how do you know many of those people dont have jobs? people in low paid jobs qualify for social housing too.

Exactly. I think the cut off point for Dublin environs is approx €40k to qualify for social housing. Some people are so ignorant or biased that they believe those in social housung are all in the dole.

Jinglejangle69

Fann Linn wrote: »

Exactly. I think the cut off point for Dublin environs is approx €40k to qualify for social housing. Some people are so ignorant or biased that they believe those in social housung are all in the dole.

Not all no.

Just the majority.

Fann Linn

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Not all no.

Just the majority.

Any links that 50.1% are on the dole?Genuinely interested in those figures if you have them.

Hamachi

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Majority in social housing don't work.

Not saying I believe or disbelieve you, but have these stats ever been published?

If this is true, it’s an almighty kick in the teeth to the taxpayer.

Idbatterim

EddieN75 wrote: »

That guy was working in Canada up to 2016. How did he manage to end up in Ireland, skip the social housing queue and end up in a luxury apartment worth €700,000 to €950,000.

Probably had rte fight his battle

Jinglejangle69

Fann Linn wrote: »

Any links that 50.1% are on the dole?Genuinely interested in those figures if you have them.

https://rebuildingireland.ie/news/annual-summary-of-social-housing-assessments-is-published/#:~:text=Just%20over%20one-third%20of,support%20are%20unemployed%20(54.2%25)%3B

"The majority of those qualified for social housing support are unemployed (54.2%)"

Idbatterim

tommybrees wrote: »

Just want to add my opinion on this whole thing.
Working on a site and have just finished building 50 plus state of the art apartments in dun laoghaire.
All sold to social housing.
People have started to move in recently.
They are arriving in fairly modern cars, trucks arriving with brand new furniture etc.
Mix of young and old with kids Boyfriends etc.

It's soul destroying when you see your paycheck at the end of the week to see where our taxes are going. Especially when trying to buy a home yourself and just cannot get a foot on the ladder.

Maybe everybody working in this country should just quit there jobs and join them then government will take notice of wtf is going on.

Many of my mates saved for ages and have bought and are breaking their balls then doing them.up, as labour costs are insane, massive mortgages too. Then on the other hand, they are paying for free housing for all these wasters...

It's going to come to an almighty crunch on housing here eventually. The best bit is fg etc bending over backwards for those who dont vote, while alienating the young that used to vote for them and that have decades left to vote. Chickens are coming home to roost...

ThunbergsAreGo

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

It's a farce.

And it is showing no signs of stopping.

Madness.

And none of the media question it...