Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

ACitizenErased

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1409634354788114434?s=20

Fils

hynesie08 wrote: »

The zero covid crowd? How do you reckon?

I speak fact. Stay tuned, stay safe. 2 metres.

plodder

Does the government have any alternative expert view? Or is NPHET the only game in town? With a quarter of a trillion debt looming, surely we could afford a second opinion?

setanta1984

Whats the point anymore?

We can't even eat indoors in the middle of summer now, what hope have we of ever seeing normal, real normal life in this country in the next number of years at this stage? Have a party, organise an event, go to a concert, drop into a pub, buy milk without a mask, not queue for a shop, work in an office not resembling a crime scene, have a proper university experience, travel on a whim.

It's the consequences of these decisions on how we ever return to real, proper life which is what upsets me the most rather than the deprivation of any specific thing being denied on the 5th.
It's disgusting, and they are all disgusting.

ACitizenErased

Surely there's some ministers looking at the figures presented and saying there's no way that's going to happen.

JRant

GooglePlus wrote: »

Nobody knows, but I wouldn't say they consider the vaccines ineffective. It's clearly a blown up worst case scenario, sure we can see in the UK that it's mainly those without a vaccination that are being seen coming through the hospital doors.

Yes, a worst case scenario whereby vaccines don't seem to be worth a bollix.

Fils

plodder wrote: »

Does the government have any alternative expert view? Or is NPHET the only game in town? With a quarter of a trillion debt looming, surely we could afford a second opinion?

Quarter of a trillion is small change, property is booming.

Pitch n Putt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

2,200 deaths across August and September, is NPHETs worst case scenario.

That's 1,100 deaths across August, let's say.

That would be the equivalent of 14,300 deaths in the UK in August -- or 476 deaths per day. Half of the peak of when there were no vaccines.

Today, the UK had 3 COVID-19-related deaths and 23,000 new cases -- with the Indian variant spreading wildly over the past couple of weeks.

NPHET need a drink, in a pub.

What NPHET actually need to do is f**k off now with their absolute bullsh1t talk. Potential
2200 deaths across August September is the biggest load of bolloxology ever.

Who in the name of God do these fools think they are making these ridiculous statements.

Necro

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Surely there's some ministers looking at the figures presented and saying there's no way that's going to happen.

Well, if they aren't then you have to wonder what the hell they're doing there.

Over 2k deaths? Why is vaccination rates which are climbing DAILY being completely ignored in this modelling?

RobitTV

https://twitter.com/JamesOConnorTD/status/1409614189514133514

I would be known to back NPHET on this thread but NPHET are completely wrong on this. The government need to stand up and balance public health vs economic health.

Aph2016

NPHET need to publish their data, its a case of crap data in = crap data out. Anyone with half a brain can see a figure of 2000+ is bananas.

SnuggyBear

Fils wrote: »

Is their a treat of penetration?

Well the hospitality industry has been penetrated repeatedly for over a year now

2,100 deaths is almost 50% of the current death toll amassed over the past year and 3 months.

At the height of summer. With 60+ of the population with 1 vaccination, and almost all the most vulnerable groups double vaccinated.

If Michael Martin goes ahead with this, then he must be the stupidest politician ever elected to high office.

Sofa King Great

Fils wrote: »

Quarter of a trillion is small change, property is booming.

None of the property investment firms pay tax though...

jammiedodgers

I wonder is it a mistake from a journalist? Who was the first one to come out with it?

namloc1980

Necro wrote: »

Well, if they aren't then you have to wonder what the hell they're doing there.

Over 2k deaths? Why is vaccination rates which are climbing DAILY being completely ignored in this modelling?

Surely their model includes continued vaccinations over the next number of months?? If not they should be disbanded and each member removed from every public role they hold for gross incompetence.

namloc1980

jammiedodgers wrote: »

I wonder is it a mistake from a journalist? Who was the first one to come out with it?

They're all hardly wrong. The NPHET letter leaks have always been pretty much spot on.

PTH2009

Europe save us please

ACitizenErased

I'm struggling to think of a scenario where that is actually possible. Like what is the scenario in which that occurs. Even if you had an R of 5-6 you'd still run into a vaccinated person 2/3rds of the time.

Fils

namloc1980 wrote: »

They're all hardly wrong. The NPHET letter leaks have always been pretty much spot on.

Is that you Stephen?

Breaston Plants

Claire Byrne will orgasm live on air tomorrow if that letter is accepted by the Government.

funnydoggy

Breaston Plants wrote: »

Claire Byrne will orgasm live on air tomorrow if that letter is accepted by the Government.

I'm actually howling hahahahahahahaha

Breaston Plants

Breaston Plants wrote: »

Claire Byrne will orgasm live on air tomorrow if that letter is accepted by the Government.

Rumors suggest that her slot has been moved to 2.30am for the post-announcement reaction from journalists. :pac:

bennyl10

No way they can restore the indoor to just vaccinated people, not when everyone hasn’t been offered a vaccine

It was suggested before and was rightly put in the bin

Open indoor, restrict the numbers further if you need to!

_Kaiser_

el Fenomeno wrote: »

It's not a long way back.

It's 4 years back, because that's what we do.

FF mess up, we vote back in FG.

FG mess up, we vote back in FF.

Rinse and repeat.

And with the precedents of "confidence and supply" and outright coalition now set, both of them will be in regardless.

Unless we really want to see SF at the controls, but that would actually be even worse.

bennyl10

bennyl10 wrote: »

No way they can restore the indoor to just vaccinated people, not when everyone hasn’t been offered a vaccine

It was suggested before and was rightly put in the bin

Open indoor, restrict the numbers further if you need to!

Open indoors.

If numbers create problems, then introduce restrictions.

We have this weird attitude in this country where we assume the worst will happen before it ever does, or ever would.

JRant

bennyl10 wrote: »

No way they can restore the indoor to just vaccinated people, not when everyone hasn’t been offered a vaccine

It was suggested before and was rightly put in the bin

Open indoor, restrict the numbers further if you need to!

Open indoor, full stop. NPHET are making it up as they go along now. Over 2k deaths in August/September. They've lost their collective minds.

namloc1980

bennyl10 wrote: »

No way they can restore the indoor to just vaccinated people, not when everyone hasn’t been offered a vaccine

It was suggested before and was rightly put in the bin

Open indoor, restrict the numbers further if you need to!

Like how much more? 3-4 metres between tables? That would be even worse for businesses as they costs to open wouldn't be covered by hardly having anyone in the place.

Necro

eskimohunt wrote: »

2,100 deaths is almost 50% of the current death toll amassed over the past year and 3 months.

At the height of summer. With 60+ of the population with 1 vaccination, and almost all the most vulnerable groups double vaccinated.

If Michael Martin goes ahead with this, then he must be the stupidest politician ever elected to high office.

But... like...

It will be much much closer to 80% when they're predicting these deaths for, and probably over 50% fully vaxxed

I honestly think they've gone off the deep end with this, it's absolutely batsh1t mental