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What's for you won't pass you.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭myfreespirit


    What's for you, won't pass you...

    Scientists now suggest that this may be true, that free will does not exist that *everything* you do and everything that happens to you, is the result of previous actions in the universe, right back to the beginning of time.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/27/the-clockwork-universe-is-free-will-an-illusion

    It's enough to melt your brain 😊

    Слава Україн– Glóir don Úcráin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    PARlance wrote: »
    Job seeker's Gran: How did the interview go?
    Job seeker: Not great Gran, felt it could have gone a lot better.
    Job seeker's Gran: Chin up, what's meant for you won't pass you by.

    It's not as belief system or something to be taken literally, it's a comforting phase. It's better than below.

    Job seeker's Gran: How did the interview go?
    Job seeker: Not great Gran, felt it could have gone a lot better.
    Job seeker's Gran: Don't change that username name anytime soon so.

    Would be horrible to be cyber bullied by your Gran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    lawred2 wrote: »
    When you work hard and dedicate yourself, what's for you might not go past you

    Flute about scratching your hole acting like the world owes you a living, well then the above doesn't really apply.

    Exception?

    1. Work hard, bust chops, mortgaged up for 30yrs in nice house
    2. Do SFA, same house, gifted to a slacker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    What's for you, won't pass you...

    Scientists now suggest that this may be true, that free will does not exist that *everything* you do and everything that happens to you, is the result of previous actions in the universe, right back to the beginning of time.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/27/the-clockwork-universe-is-free-will-an-illusion

    It's enough to melt your brain 😊

    Well of course free will doesn’t exist, whatever you gave you the idea that it did in the first place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,307 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    A BS phrase , which does more harm than good. Speaking from experience, take your chances. They're not called a once in a lifetime for nothing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,905 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    begbysback wrote: »
    Well of course free will doesn’t exist, whatever you gave you the idea that it did in the first place?

    One of the Terminator films. That was later retconned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    PARlance wrote: »
    Job seeker's Gran: How did the interview go?
    Job seeker: Not great Gran, felt it could have gone a lot better.
    Job seeker's Gran: Chin up, what's meant for you won't pass you by.

    It's not as belief system or something to be taken literally, it's a comforting phase. It's better than below.

    Job seeker's Gran: How did the interview go?
    Job seeker: Not great Gran, felt it could have gone a lot better.
    Job seeker's Gran: Don't change that username name anytime soon so.

    That would be frightening, to say the least, as both of my grandmothers are dead.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's for you, won't pass you...

    Scientists now suggest that this may be true, that free will does not exist that *everything* you do and everything that happens to you, is the result of previous actions in the universe, right back to the beginning of time.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/27/the-clockwork-universe-is-free-will-an-illusion

    It's enough to melt your brain ��

    it's probably the most commonly held belief in science that is almost completely rejected in society. Forget creationism, or even God himself – free will is a myth that our society is built on.

    I wouldn't even bring the universe into it, that has connotations of something quite grand and unified. We are first, and foremost, sacks of chemical reactions. Our behaviours are explained by genes, neurotransmitters and hormones. The idea that there is some invisible homunculus inside our brains over-writing our biology is perhaps necessary for this society to get along, but it is a pretence.

    A bit like "what's for you won't go by you" — it papers over the cracks. It might be better not to believe in biological determinism, it can be quite nihilistic.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    it's probably the most commonly held belief in science that is almost completely rejected in society. Forget creationism, or even God himself – free will is a myth that our society is built on.

    I wouldn't even bring the universe into it, that has connotations of something quite grand and unified. We are first, and foremost, sacks of chemical reactions. Our behaviours are explained by genes, neurotransmitters and hormones. The idea that there is some invisible homunculus inside our brains over-writing our biology is perhaps necessary for this society to get along, but it is a pretence.

    A bit like "what's for you won't go by you" — it papers over the cracks. It might be better not to believe in biological determinism, it can be quite nihilistic.

    Science isn’t as convinced as you think about free will. Those chemical reactions can’t really explain complex human reactions to other humans, or animals to animals, the chemical reactions are as much caused by the human mind as causing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    If that job was really for you, you would have put more effort into the interview, or your skills and experience would have carried you through. Unfortunately, you weren't a good fit, and the job wasn't for you

    Hypothetical situation!


    Not a good fit based on experience and skill though. Something we have the power to change.. Not reliant purely on luck! Maybe I am missing the point though..


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    If you made your own luck, it wouldn't be luck , just good decision making

    Luck has nothing to do with the person who is the beneficiary of it

    True. Which golfer once said, ''The more I practice the luckier I get? ''


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Winter Potatoe


    job seeker wrote: »
    I hear a lot of people use this phrase. Personally, I think that it's BS. Purely used as a coping mechanism. I have not ever experienced something happen to me because it was for me.

    Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
    Just like the phrase "you can't bullsh1t a bullsh1tter"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,037 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    job seeker wrote: »
    Seriously though let's take a job interview for example. You come out and realise you had a terrible interview. You don't get the job. Not because it wasn't for you. But because you had a terrible interview. I find it hard, as I if I had put in a better effort, learned a broader range of info, practised earlier, or could control my nerves the hypothetical interview could have gone a lot better.. You know?

    Yet, you can have a great interview and still not get the job despite being the best candidate for the role.

    Life just isn't as simple as If I do A, then this outcome will happen. If I do B, then this outcome will happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    job seeker wrote: »
    Seriously though let's take a job interview for example. You come out and realise you had a terrible interview. You don't get the job. Not because it wasn't for you. But because you had a terrible interview. I find it hard, as I if I had put in a better effort, learned a broader range of info, practised earlier, or could control my nerves the hypothetical interview could have gone a lot better.. You know?

    Or you really didn't want this job, so you subconsciously self-sabotaged it, not to get it. So at the end it was not for you, if it was a case...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭onrail


    Don't understand the animosity on here for what might be a vital coping strategy for people.

    I've used it myself at times, really in an attempt to see the positives and opportunities arising from tough situations - and such a mindset has saved me form going to a really dark place on a good few occasions.

    For what it's worth, the great place I'm in right now, really has been a function of all those setbacks along the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    job seeker wrote: »
    Hypothetical situation!


    Not a good fit based on experience and skill though. Something we have the power to change.. Not reliant purely on luck! Maybe I am missing the point though..

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