Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

CIARAN_BOYLE

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

With only 11 new delta variant cases in the past week, and with foreign travel still severely restricted (until 19th July at least), we are in good shape. Even if the number of delta variants cases doubles every week for the next 8 weeks, it would still be only 400 cases per day.

How many cases are sequenced.

11 out of all cases in the last week is tiny. 11 out of 100 sequenced would start to be concerning. 11 out of 400 sequenced would be this could be concerning in a few weeks let's keep an eye on it.

Mike3549

ongarite wrote: »

Those are very good numbers IMO.
Wednesday has historically been the big testing day with large case numbers to scare the public with.
If we are this low going forward, then we are in good shape IMO for July.

There was a bank holiday on Monday, so Wednesday bump should happen tomorrow

CIARAN_BOYLE

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

What % of our cases are delta variant? Do we know?

About 3% of samples sequenced are Delta.

cameramonkey

A study in The UK says that 8 in 10 adults have anti-bodies for the virus as of May 17. just on BBC news.

JRant

is_that_so wrote: »

He's been banging on about that for weeks, even took to Twitter for some silly comments for a while. NPHET see them as useful for very specific controlled environments and it's really his opinion versus NPHET, not just the CMO. DeGascun is also not much of a fan. He's like all of these academics/experts, lots of opinions but they have never had to make a public decision in their lives.

He makes some very valid points though and shouldn't be dismissed just because he's not in a position of power.

On DeGascun not being a fan, I can't think why? Nothing to do with him being head of a lab that carry out PCR testing.

is_that_so

JRant wrote: »

He makes some very valid points though and shouldn't be dismissed just because he's not in a position of power.

On DeGascun not being a fan, I can't think why? Nothing to do with him being head of a lab that carry out PCR testing.

He has an ego and there's a level of stupidity and a complete lack of professionalism in taking a swing at what a country is doing.

Varying accuracy is why and he views PCR as the gold standard, a point he and the rest of NPHET keep repeating.

goingnowhere

The UK has consistently had one of the highest sequencing rates in the world. Iceland actually sequenced every single case. If you look more you find more.

The UK built themselves into the mess as minority groupings are way down in terms of vaccinations add in Eid and large numbers from India piling into the UK as the UK gave way too much notice, it should have shut the door with no notice. Add in the UK opening pubs etc and the whole thing went bang. The graph looks scary now.

Our numbers have been rock steady for 3 months now (amazing achievement), even though we have opened up and learned the lesson that indoor dining/boozing is the real super spreader. The most recent numbers hopefully are the start of the downward trend which has been seen elsewhere the vaccination numbers cross a magic number and cases decline. I call it the secondary schools are closed now for 10 days once we get primary closed in 3 weeks time the party starts.

TefalBrain

cameramonkey wrote: »

A study in The UK says that 8 in 10 adults have anti-bodies for the virus as of May 17. just on BBC news.

Wow. That's incredible really.

TefalBrain

Tiny numbers yet again. With the level of vaccine uptake here we are well on the way to our society getting back to normal.

JRant

is_that_so wrote: »

He has an ego and there's a level of stupidity and a complete lack of professionalism in taking a swing at what a country is doing.

Varying accuracy is why and he views PCR as the gold standard, a point he and the rest of NPHET keep repeating.

That's a fairly harsh description of DeGascun.

The PCR is the gold standard for diagnosis but is it really the best tool for travel or large events? It's time consuming and the costs are far higher.

goingnowhere

TefalBrain wrote: »

Wow. That's incredible really.

Well given how rampant COVID was in the UK, it is a cruel kind of return for the horrors of 2020.

France, Spain, Italy, Czechia, Sweden should have similar experience given the sustained high case count they had.

is_that_so

JRant wrote: »

That's a fairly harsh description of DeGascun.

Mina

The PCR is the gold standard for diagnosis but is it really the best tool for travel or large events? It's time consuming and the costs are far higher.

It's what we are using until told otherwise. NPHET definitely hold sway on that decision.

Eod100

30-39 year olds can register for vaccine from next week https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/vaccine-registration-for-people-aged-30-39-to-open-next-week-1.4588613?mode=amp

is_that_so

Eod100 wrote: »

30-39 year olds can register for vaccine from next week https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/vaccine-registration-for-people-aged-30-39-to-open-next-week-1.4588613?mode=amp

It'll be like Ticketmaster for a big gig, refresh, refresh, refresh!

stephenjmcd

Eod100 wrote: »

30-39 year olds can register for vaccine from next week https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/vaccine-registration-for-people-aged-30-39-to-open-next-week-1.4588613?mode=amp

Will be interesting to see if it retains the groupings such as 35-39 and 30-34 or if it'll open for the full age group

Tyrone212

Eod100 wrote: »

30-39 year olds can register for vaccine from next week https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/vaccine-registration-for-people-aged-30-39-to-open-next-week-1.4588613?mode=amp

That's great. Flying along.

is_that_so

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Will be interesting to see if it retains the groupings such as 35-39 and 30-34 or if it'll open for the full age group

Better to allow all of them do it so they can get closer to the "offered a vaccine" target by the end of June!

MerlinSouthDub

Hardyn wrote: »

About 3% of samples sequenced are Delta.

And they target the sequencing to areas of concern (e.g. travel or close contacts have tested positive for a variant of concern). So, very likely to be a good bit less than 3% of total case numbers

is_that_so

Tyrone212 wrote: »

That's great. Flying along.

Now it'll be the 20 somethings' turn to ask "Are we there yet?"!

lee_baby_simms

JRant wrote: »

That's a fairly harsh description of DeGascun.

The PCR is the gold standard for diagnosis but is it really the best tool for travel or large events? It's time consuming and the costs are far higher.

I’d be more concerned that it can often produce a positive result after a person has cleared the virus and is no longer infectious.

Eod100

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Will be interesting to see if it retains the groupings such as 35-39 and 30-34 or if it'll open for the full age group

Yeah good question

JRant

Tyrone212 wrote: »

That's great. Flying along.

Not really. The 45-49 group is only really getting going and the 40-44 group has barely been touched. The age groups have definitely slowed down due to second doses being required over the next number of weeks.

shinzon

Tony called in to explain his opposition to Antigen testing

https://www.thejournal.ie/dail-committee-holohan-opposition-antigen-tests-5462206-Jun2021/

CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER Dr Tony Holohan has been called on to appear before a Dáil committee to explain his opposition to the use of antigen testing.

Shin

JRant

is_that_so wrote: »

Mina


It's what we are using until told otherwise. NPHET definitely hold sway on that decision.

I don't agree with that description of him either so.

NPHET do indeed hold sway and that's part of the problem. They are so cautious they can't even bring themselves to entertain the idea that rapid tests may be useful.

CIARAN_BOYLE

shinzon wrote: »

Tony called in to explain his opposition to Antigen testing

https://www.thejournal.ie/dail-committee-holohan-opposition-antigen-tests-5462206-Jun2021/



Shin

Same questions and answers all the time.

His opinion hasn't really changed in a long time. We all know that he is opposed and what his reasoning is.

Why do the politicians need to ask? If they don't accept it they don't accept it. That's fine but asking the same questions over and over again bores me.

is_that_so

shinzon wrote: »

Tony called in to explain his opposition to Antigen testing

https://www.thejournal.ie/dail-committee-holohan-opposition-antigen-tests-5462206-Jun2021/



Shin

He can actually tell them where to go. They can't compel him and all they can do is invite him, which is what the article states.

JRant

shinzon wrote: »

Tony called in to explain his opposition to Antigen testing

https://www.thejournal.ie/dail-committee-holohan-opposition-antigen-tests-5462206-Jun2021/



Shin

The good doctor will not like that one bit.

is_that_so

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Same questions and answers all the time.

His opinion hasn't really changed in a long time. We all know that he is opposed and what his reasoning is.

Why do the politicians need to ask? If they don't accept it they don't accept it. That's fine but asking the same questions over and over again bores me.

Committees like to throw shapes and seem important is why. It's looking for a counter to Mina.

CIARAN_BOYLE

is_that_so wrote: »

Committees like to throw shapes and seem important is why.

To me they are just showing they are too stupid to understand the answers that was explained publicly last August.

I can understand disagreeing but asking him to explain further is pointless.

D.Q

JRant wrote: »

The good doctor will not like that one bit.

Keep him away from the city centre in case the poor divil gets another nasty fright.