Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

eviltimeban

From talking to colleagues and friends, the view on WFH seems to be like this:

2020: "This is great, why would we want to go into an office at all! Never going back!"

2021: "Am sick of the same four walls! I wonder when they'll open up again?"

2022: "Getting to go in for a few days a week, change of scenery and to meet people"

podgeandrodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118546667#Comment_118546667

From talking to colleagues and friends, the view on WFH seems to be like this:

2020: "This is great, why would we want to go into an office at all! Never going back!"

2021: "This is great, why would we want to go into an office at all! Never going back!"

2022: "This is great, might nip in the odd day a month if forced, but rather not have to meet any of those feckers in person ever again if I could help it"!

😁

Cork2021

Good to see ConorRiocht back on twitter! Now his user name is logical Conor and his name Conor Riordan

CruelSummer

This evening one week ago Michéal walked down the steps and gave my favourite speech of the Covid pandemic 😀.

speckle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118547033#Comment_118547033

And then I went to sleep for nearly a whole week!

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118523836#Comment_118523836

Only seeing this. Pribably been answered already.

From what we are hearing from the immunology people they think that infection with Omicron for most will confer some immunity against it however long it lasts , and that with vaccination and booster should prevent serious illness.

However again, those who are Immunocompromised, as opposed to vulnerable, have been advised tp be aware, take precautions and test regularly if socialising as they may not be able to either clear an infection pr indeed develop any lasting immunity , and may have recurring reinfection.

This is true though of any infection if immunosuppressed or immunocompromised.

Omicron is still mild for most even this group once vaxxed/ boosted.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118546736#Comment_118546736

Talking to family and friends..

"2021.This is great. Have just bought a house down the country as wfh the last 1.5 years and am more productive as well as saving the planet not clogging up the roads to the cities commuting , and finally not struggling with high unaffordable rents.

2022. Oh no! Boss wants us all back at work..next week... government appears to be supporting this. What do I do now? "

corkie

Hopefully not giving 'Covidiots' or 'Anti Vaxxers' ammunition?

https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o102

Unacceptable delay

Pfizer’s pivotal covid vaccine trial was funded by the company and designed, run, analysed, and authored by Pfizer employees. The company and the contract research organisations that carried out the trial hold all the data. And Pfizer has indicated that it will not begin entertaining requests for trial data until May 2025, 24 months after the primary study completion date, which is listed on ClinicalTrials.gov as 15 May 2023 (NCT04368728).

Big pharma is the least trusted industry. At least three of the many companies making covid-19 vaccines have past criminal and civil settlements costing them billions of dollars. One pleaded guilty to fraud. Other companies have no pre-covid track record. Now the covid pandemic has minted many new pharma billionaires, and vaccine manufacturers have reported tens of billions in revenue.

The BMJ supports vaccination policies based on sound evidence.

{Youtube: - Dr. J. Campbell} ~ Data, we want it all

Does it boil out, to us all been public vaccine guinea pigs?

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118547371#Comment_118547371

As noted in the letter, the EMA is publishing all the data, there was also separate trials ran in Europe (that reached the same conclusions...).

The FDA has a unique way of doing things as does everything health related in America (I mean, selling opioids for any minor pain?), we're lucky we live in Europe from a healthcare perspective unless you have a rare disease in which case it's probably the US that is spending money to figure out how to treat it.

AdamD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118547365#Comment_118547365

That country living is significantly worse for the environment than urban

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118544969#Comment_118544969

Natural immunity against COVID lowered risk more than vaccines against Delta variant, new study says | Euronews

Natural immunity against COVID lowered risk more than vaccines against Delta variant, new study says

Unvaccinated people who had previously contracted COVID-19 and survived were better protected against the Delta variant than those who were only vaccinated, according to a new study published on Wednesday.

However

The study also pointed out that relying on contracting the disease as a strategy to gain immunity potentially carries serious complications, such as hospitalisation, long-term health problems, and death, while vaccines have proven to be extremely safe and effective.

Three of my children contracted covid over the summer and all socialised frequesntly afterwards.

They were all vaccinated subsequently.

None of them got covid subsequently, not even omicron despite going out three out of four nights coming up to christmas.

Their friends who were vaccinated but hadnt acquired natural immunity subsequently caught covid and passed it on to their entire families.

Is it okay to post this experience here,is it going against a narrative, I feel liike a subversive lol.

deeperlearning

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542676#Comment_118542676

From what I can see, Orla Hegarty has no qualifications in either science or healthcare.

She seems to be on Twitter all day every day. Attention-seeking seems to be her motivation.

aziz

How are the case numbers and hospitable doing

haven’t been paying attention since the pubs reopened

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118548100#Comment_118548100

Few other interesting bits:

"Vaccines don't work!"

During the period analysed by the researchers, the people with the least protection by far were those who had neither been vaccinated nor fallen ill in the past.

But before Delta, vaccinated people who had not previously contracted COVID-19 were better protected than unvaccinated people who had already fallen ill.

After the introduction of Delta, the ratio was reversed.

"Vaccines don't reduce infections!"

Those that had been vaccinated but never infected with COVID-19 were six times less likely to get it in California, and about five times less likely in New York.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118548100#Comment_118548100

Not if you are young and healthy like me and most people here. I'll take my chances thankls

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118548502#Comment_118548502

Without the magnets, how will you stick to the surface of the earth though? Don't be blaming everybody else when you float away.

NedsNotDead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118547365#Comment_118547365

Not sure I believe this

Goldengirl

Well that's your prerogative, ned ,but I responded in a similar vein to podges' post because I know these people and more who will happily work remotely and never go back .

Two couples I know have bought houses elsewhere and are now job hunting there in case they are asked to return to the offices in Dublin .

Another colleague of my oh is gone to take over his parents farm up north working a reduced week from there . .

Its not a case of one poster is correct here and another not , whether you 'believe it 'or not .

Different people/ different perspectives .

I am sure there are some people delighted to return to the office and all that entails too ..no argument there but it's not the only viewpoint .

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118548502#Comment_118548502

Why?

is_that_so

649 in hospital this morning. Nice to see it continue to drop fast and one might assume we will be in or around 500 by the end of next week.

NedsNotDead

Refreshing to see this thread has grown so quite

cuttingtimber22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118549613#Comment_118549613

And probably after close to half a million posts.

Ficheall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118549637#Comment_118549637

About 385k, I think - the previous threads had post limits. I'm assuming Beasty also deleted a couple of thousand.

gmisk

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1487241972410683397?t=81YpMVCcYx50tZ5IGl6Rqw&s=19

I remember this guy going viral at the time...seems he will go viral again for a very different reason...

Chris_5339762

It's very far from over in the minds of elderly people, unfortunately. I have to live with mine, and I'm booked to go to a nightclub gig in Bristol in a fortnights time. Immediately, severe resistance the instant I mentioned it. Back to doom mongering. I may have to cancel to keep the peace, but I really don't want to. Very frustrating.

Ficheall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118549694#Comment_118549694

That's awful, Chris. Sorry to hear your parents are putting their health above your evening's enjoyment. Thoughts and prayers.

cuttingtimber22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118549653#Comment_118549653

I was using the NPHET/RTÉ methodology for counting.

Chris_5339762

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118549729#Comment_118549729

I detect a hint of sarcasm in that, but all three of us are boosted so the world is as safe as it's going to be. What can we all do, continue to hide? They're often telling me to go out and make friend and meet someone but when I actually do, they get very panicky because COVID. RTE has a lot to answer for, they are the source of their absolute paranoia.

fits

chris they will have to come around in their own time. Go to the gig but keep your distance for five days after.