Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118635504#Comment_118635504

Everyone's over on the weather forum arguing whether schools should or shouldn't be open tomorrow and whether its really a red warning or an orange plus!

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118647313#Comment_118647313

Well, they have to rile against something.

marno21

Tony Holohan indicating NPHET to be stood down after today’s meeting. Masks to remain only in healthcare settings.

It’s finally done and dusted now. After 2 years I think it’s time to unsubscribe to the threads in this forum for once and for all.

Great news. Hopefully it’s done overnight too. No reason it can’t

Can’t wait for the “but they’re not following the sCiEnCe” crowd who’ve suddenly gone from worshipping the advice to now railing against it.

Any word on the other school measures I wonder? Obvs distancing and masks the big ones gone now - hopefully the magic pods and ban on mixing to be quietly dropped too?

hotmail.com

As we're nearing the complete end of this saga, many are wondering, did Ireland over react to covid?

lee_baby_simms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118647670#Comment_118647670

Myself and the missus have a bottle of champagne saved for when RTE eventually go to the wall but tonight may be the night it gets popped!

https://youtu.be/3GwjfUFyY6M

seamus

Same as before, most likely they will be scrapped from midnight tomorrow or Sunday night.

Now it's been said, people will just stop wearing masks and you create this vacuum of tension while it's still mandatory but it has been advised to drop it. So chances are the government will meet early tomorrow and make an early statement in order to remove any ambiguity.

Secondary schools are on a week break next week anyway. Primary schools may be advised to wait till after they come back. Seems redundant though. They can be dropped immediately.

Pussyhands

I hope all the measures and moves brought in during covid are recorded somewhere so we can look back in years to come.

That 9 euro meal for example.

I know there's a Wikipedia page but don't think it has all the little details.

Hard to believe two years of our lives have been spent with covid!

stephenjmcd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118647848#Comment_118647848

The recommendation to government is appearently from the 28th, to let the current SI lapse. Soon see what they do

lee_baby_simms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118647893#Comment_118647893

Seems pointless with midterm next week.

hynesie08

NPHET winding down when there's no longer a NPHE to oversee?

No, boards told me they'd desperately cling onto power forever and would keep restrictions till the end of the year.

Tony must be lying.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118647887#Comment_118647887

Remember all the jokes about essential and non-essential?

We've never had such blunt bureaucratic control over our lives - with units of statistical models substituting for real actually-existing people.

I suspect a lot of professionals (ABC1) took to it because they already spend 37-42 hours a week putting gibberish into spreadsheets and performing similar tasks for idiot managers, whether in the public or private sector.

All the blah-blahing pseduo-science and amateur statistics and the total faith in narrow micro-specialisms, so that we're suddenly in thrall to a sub-sub-discipline of medical science that most people had never even heard of before (epidemiology). "Are you an epidemiologist?" "Hold on, this chemist/biologist/physicist/doctor/Nobel Prize winning statistician is NOT an epidemiologist so they have nothing to contribute!" *vomit*

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118647887#Comment_118647887

This place?

The €9 meal had to be one of the most misrepresented public health measures of them all.

Did the Irish Government overreact? With hindsight being 20/20 we can see that some of the measures were more restrictive than they likely needed to be. You could probably point to the end of last summer where restrictions could've been unwound further than they were - but were largely invisible anyway. In the end though, that really wouldn't have changed things for long as the Omicron unknown was surfacing.

In the round though, the Irish Government did a pretty good job at containing the virus and preventing a limited capacity healthcare system from becoming overrun - in the context of a threat that had many unknowns about it.

Spudman_20000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648152#Comment_118648152

Yeah, only ran up 40 billion of debt and affected the mental and physical well-being of thousands of people. Champagne all round lads.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648152#Comment_118648152

We never actually contained the virus though as such a thing was not possible. Peaks occurred in all countries regardless of restrictions. And peaks fizzled out with or without restrictions.

When cases were low we credited lockdowns. When we had thousands of cases we blamed lack of adherence.

The harsh reality is that they came at a huge cost and really didn't help much.

Now we pay the price with record levels of debt, inflation and a housing crisis that got a whole lot worse thanks to being the only country to close construction for months on end in 2021.

rob316

Nearly 2 years, its finally over. Like totally over

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648265#Comment_118648265

Little bit of revisionism there. Construction closed for all but exempted projects on 8th January and reopened for housing on 12 April. So not months on end. 3 months.

And yes it hit output, but in the context of the housing crisis, 3 months delayed supply was not hugely impactful. By the end of 2021, construction significantly caught up.

CruelSummer

I hope the last two years and the response to Covid is examined properly. I fear very little investigative journalism as one thing this shone a light on for me is that impartial media is gone. Agendas and narratives are the new approach with salesman tactics with guest contributors and ‘debates’.

is_that_so

The decision will probably be made on Tuesday unless someone has a rush of blood to the head to move it up.

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1494364151484923906

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648297#Comment_118648297

yep its fantastic

Part of me thinks we may never see something like this again in our lifetimes and proves that lockdowns don't work long term

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648429#Comment_118648429

We wouldn't know, we didn't have a long term lockdown, New Zealand did, we had a couple of months of lockdown on 2 occasions.

Tom1991

I just want Dublin bus to have windows open on the bus every 2nd or 3rd window replaced with plexiglass with holes drilled in it even.Never want to be on a sweaty bus again because some geebag thinks it’s cold on it.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648455#Comment_118648455

We had a couple of months lockdown?

Jesus Christ

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648475#Comment_118648475

Learn to drive ?

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648760#Comment_118648760

Yep, there were 2 periods of a couple of months where your movements were restricted, that's a lockdown.

Pubs being closed isn't a lockdown.

CalamariFritti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648971#Comment_118648971

Except of course for whoever owns the pub or works in the pub. Or in 'non-essential' retail or in hospitality/gastronomy or in entertainment or in culture/arts or in travel/tourism... I'm sure the list would get quite long if you thought about it for a moment.

For all those businesses driven to the wall it was a little more than just 2 months of being 'inconvenienced'. They were fairly locked down and even after that they had to operate under conditions that barely allowed them to stay afloat never mind earn a living.

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118649190#Comment_118649190

You've used a lot of words to describe restrictions, which aren't lockdown.

Chris_5339762

I can very well understand why masks are being kept in healthcare, but spare a thought for us healthcare engineering and office staff who still have to wear FFP2s all day everyday despite not interacting with patients!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118649366#Comment_118649366

We had a travel restriction in place for 7 months with our leaders gleefully admitting we had some of the toughest and longest restrictions in the world.

Lockdown was never officially defined. It doesn't matter whether you want to call it lockdown or insanely severe restrictions.