Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Vicxas

Johnny0Toole wrote: »

They are absolutely designed to prevent people catching it. They illicit an immune response that produces neutralising antibodies which prevent the virus from infecting cells.

Exactly, they imitate the virus so the body produces an immune response, without actually getting sick.

Renjit

Deleted User wrote: »

What do you think the vaccine does?

It is not designed to prevent people from catching Covid. It helps to prevent serious illness.

In some cases, you may get infected but that would be few and far between in a million people.

Normally, your body will zap the first intrusion attempt itself. Virus will not get chance to replicate and spread.

Jim_Hodge

Johnny0Toole wrote: »

They are absolutely designed to prevent people catching it. They illicit an immune response that produces neutralising antibodies which prevent the virus from infecting cells.

Vicxas wrote: »

Exactly, they imitate the virus so the body produces an immune response, without actually getting sick.

There's a distinction between getting, or contracting, an illness and being sick from it. The vaccine does not prevent people catching the virus.

Jim_Hodge

Renjit wrote: »

In some cases, you may get infected but that would be few and far between in a million people.

Normally, your body will zap the first intrusion attempt itself. Virus will not get chance to replicate and spread.

It's not working out that way. I have two neighbours fully vaccinated who were tested last week as close contacts. Both have Covid: one is asymptomatic and the other has just a mild headache and tiredness. Their close contacts have since been tested but I haven't heard if any tested positive.

Jim_Hodge

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

There's a distinction between getting, or contracting, an illness and being sick from it. The vaccine does not prevent people catching the virus.

What are you talking about? The vaccine if working as intended arms the immune system to stop the virus entering cells and spewing out replicas of itself.
Are you playing with semantics here.

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

What do you think the vaccine does?

It is not designed to prevent people from catching Covid. It helps to prevent serious illness.

Yeah and what you get then is called a cold! Our takeup levels will bring us to herd immunity so that there is next to no serious illness. That's not to say we won't hear of COVID cases but it will have lost its ability to harm any kind of large numbers.

Jim_Hodge

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

There's a distinction between getting, or contracting, an illness and being sick from it. The vaccine does not prevent people catching the virus.

Sorry but yes they do. When you come into contact with a virus, but have enough neutralising antibodies against that virus, then the virus can't get into your cells (infect). If it can't get in you can't get sick.

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n888

paulie21

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1405550461759934470?s=19

seamus

Lads, the number of people who test positive for Covid after being fully vaccinated is statistically small. I can't believe this is even being debated.

The assertion was that opening up with everyone vaccinated could still result in case numbers taking off. Which is complete nonsense.

paulie21

Update on deaths unfortunately

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1405552401449357316?s=19

paulie21

paulie21 wrote: »

Update on deaths unfortunately

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1405552401449357316?s=19

Assuming the other 20 are before May then.

AdamD

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1405551547069747201

Vicxas

AdamD wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1405551547069747201

Great to see we're suppressing it.

Stheno

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1405554076037824512?s=19

Stheno

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1405557804186939404?s=19

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1405557804186939404?s=19

Where do Indian IT specialists work...Dublin predominanetly.

Stheno

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where do Indian IT specialists work...Dublin predominanetly.

I'd be more inclined to suspect travel from the UK tbh

All the Indian guys based in my Dublin office live here

PmMeUrDogs

Deaths falling off a cliff, ICU and hospital figures dropping, cases still dropping, delta incidence dropping.

Holy sh!t, this is all some incredibly hopeful, powerful news. Whatever your opinion on our current level of restrictions, it's fantastic to see what we're seeing now.

Goldengirl

Deleted User wrote: »

If you want to start you can look for Risikogebiet on rki.de. You'll find parts of Ireland on the list.

? Not what I asked ..

Normal One

There hasn’t been any deaths registered since the HSE hack, COVID or otherwise.

Goldengirl

normanoffside wrote: »

There can be no spontaneity in travel/aviation when PCR is required. If you need to travel immediately you can’t because first you have to go get a PCR test and wait for the results. This is particularly an issue for people in rural areas.
Antigen allows you to take a test at an airport lab just before checkin which is why aviation wants it so much.

NPHET have kicked the can down the road so long that it will become a moot point as everyone will soon be able to travel after they are vaccinated in a more spontaneous manner again.

Exactly .

Goldengirl

CruelSummer wrote: »

Antigen tests could also be used for festivals, matches and other events.
I really hope they’re used in schools from next Autumn as another tool to help pick up and stop Covid cases spreading in school settings next year.

Agree .
But not for travel , not until we are vaccinated , then no problem.

Goldengirl

Deleted User wrote: »

You are 100% correct there. A pragmatic company that finds themselves in that situation would issue P45s to their Irish workers and move offshore to a Country with a reasonable approach to managing risks associatd with the pandemic.
No skin off NPHETs back.

Name one company that is doing this ..what a load of sxxx!

bucketybuck

Goldengirl wrote: »

Name one company that is doing this ..what a load of sxxx!

Perhaps you should read the context...

corkie

Normal One wrote: »

There hasn’t been any deaths registered since the HSE hack, COVID or otherwise.

paulie21 wrote: »

Update on deaths unfortunately

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1405552401449357316

^^^ Edited the tweet above to point to correct thread.

Goldengirl

Deleted User wrote: »

Getting a rapid test at the airport involves me arriving 2 hours earlier than I otherwise woudl have arrived.
If I fail the test e.g. a False positive then I'm faced with not being able to board my flight and then arrange accommodation and transport to somewhere where I can isolate.
It would have been nice to have been able to have had the test done up to 48 hours in advance which is the usual entry requirement for Counties which demand an Antigen test.

The following areas in Ireland are considered Risk Areas in Germany.
• Ireland (since 21 March 2021) – the following regions are currently classified as basic
risk areas:
o Border (since 21 March 2021)
o Dublin (since 21 March 2021)
o Mid-East (since 21 March 2021)

If you have a false positive on an antigen test you can stay in the vicinity of Dublin Airport as then you will need to quarantine on travel to Germany. Doing an antigen test two hours before your flight is a very risky thing to be doing and as have been mentioned by those who are so in favour of prohibition of antigen tests Antigen Tests produce a lot of false positive results.

So you still have to get the antigen test in advance to be sure by what you said above , so why not stretch it by a few hours and get a PCR.
Then you would be 100% sure .
What about people coming from the UK to Germany ? You never answered that !

Goldengirl

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Why was and is Europe’s youngest nation suppressed the most for the longest, to combat a disease that effects the elderly??

Why was that?

Perhaps lack of leadership from government and nPHEt taking the lead, becoming a monster that can’t be stopped?

Why are some people posting the same posts from April 2020 , still ?

Goldengirl

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Actually she is waiting for her second dose and so am I .,Then we can feel safe and free to travel .There should be no need for anything more than an antigen test for us at that stage.
Have you any idea how people are feeling not seeing grandchildren and children for almost 18mths .? People are desperate at this stage and need it to be made a bit easier for us

While I am in agreement that it is a very difficult situation for families , I also agree thatit us important to restrict travel from the UKfor the next 6 weeks at least until as many as possible can get 2 doses into them .
This will hopefully be moot after 19th of July and hopefully UK will be in a better position then .

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

I'd be more inclined to suspect travel from the UK tbh

All the Indian guys based in my Dublin office live here

My Indian Colleague couldn't return for a month as he had the virus.

Goldengirl

Goldengirl wrote: »

? Not what I asked ..

If you won't inform yourself properly then you've nobody else to blame for remaining uninformed.