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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    You know hospital figures are at manageable levels when RTÉ are back talking about suspected hospital cases again.


    I genuinely laughed out loud


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    harr wrote: »
    .. surely the criteria for testing needs to scaled back with that amount negative tests.


    Test the ever living bejaysus out of anyone who wants it

    The UAE today:

    200,648 tests

    1735 cases

    0.86 % positivity


    Imagine 0.86% positivity here. We'd be dancing around the house! :pac:

    The way out of this for the world is:

    - Vaccines

    - Treatments

    - Testing


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭Polar101


    harr wrote: »
    surely the criteria for testing needs to scaled back with that amount negative tests.

    Why? Negative result = Good thing. The closer the positivity rate gets to zero, the faster this will be over.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    harr wrote: »
    23,000 people tested and under 500 swabs positive how are are numbers getting tested that high ?
    Are people just going to test centres for a few hours out of the house or what .. surely the criteria for testing needs to scaled back with that amount negative tests.

    There's some sort of a Headcold going around

    Plus its hayfever season


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,286 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    harr wrote: »
    23,000 people tested and under 500 swabs positive how are are numbers getting tested that high ?
    Are people just going to test centres for a few hours out of the house or what .. surely the criteria for testing needs to scaled back with that amount negative tests.

    Actually quite the opposite. There are symptomatic tests for which you need a GP referral, walk in centres in various places changing each week for asymptomatic tests. There is a case for randomised testing to establish the true level of any ongoing infection and, in the scale of things, it is not one of the expensive side effects. The more we can continue to establish that there is a low level of infection, the more we can continue to be “released”. 125k per week tests has been fairly static for a while now and, for example, it is used to establish the level of community infection for travel.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Lucas Hood wrote: »


    First time to have the 7 day positivity in testing as low as 2.4% since September 24th and the highest daily testing figure since January 22nd.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    Figures for this morning....Vaccinations flying out the door also - boom!

    33 ICU
    110 Hospital


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Today's numbers plus Vaccine update combined, via Laura on Reddit Ireland

    New cases: 408

    Denotified cases: 9

    Total cases: 252,303

    New deaths: 1
    Denotified deaths:
    Total deaths: 4,919

    Of the 408 cases notified today
    • Male: 205
    • Female: 202
    • Under 45 years old: 314 (77%)
    • Median age: 31

    Vaccination Numbers - Up to Thursday 6th May
    • Total doses: 1,746,912 (+46,374)
    • First dose: 1,267,167 (+34,100)
    • Second dose: 479,745 (+12,274)
    • Full vaccinated 479,826 (2nd dose + J&J numbers)

    Vaccine Type
    • Pfizer: 1,204,094 (+24,456) - 69% of total
    • Moderna: 86,730 (+1,972) - 5% of total
    • AZ: 456,007 (+19,865) - 26% of total
    • Janssen: 81 (+81) - 0% of total

    Cohort Breakdown

    Cohort 1 (Residents aged 65+ in LTCF)
    • Total in group: ~105,000
    • Total vaccines: 194,964 (+297)
    • Total with first vaccine: 110,145 (+271)
    • Total with second vaccine: 84,819 (+26)
    • 105% of total half vaccinated (+0%)
    • 81% of total fully vaccinated (+0%)
    Cohort 2 (Frontline Healthcare Workers)
    • Total in group: ~250,000
    • Total vaccines: 355,419 (+2,746)
    • Total with first vaccine: 258,578 (+1,836)
    • Total with second vaccine: 96,841 (+910)
    • 103% of total half vaccinated (+0%)
    • 39% of total fully vaccinated (+1%)
    Cohort 3 (People 70+)
    • Total in group: 482,327
    • Total vaccines: 747,437 (+10,840) *Total with first vaccine: 457,726 (+480)
    • Total with second vaccine: 289,711 (+10,360)
    • 95% of total half vaccinated (+0%)
    • 60% of total fully vaccinated (+2%)
    Cohort 4 (People aged 16-69 and at very high risk of severe Covid-19)
    • Total in group: ~250,000
    • Total vaccines: 243,017 (+14,000)
    • Total with first vaccine: 235,752 (+13,714)
    • Total with second vaccine: 8,265 (+1,286)
    • 94% of total half vaccinated (+5%)
    • 3.3% of total fully vaccinated (+1.5%)
    Cohort 5 (All aged 60-69)
    • Total in group: 417,000
    • Total vaccines: 202,758 (+18,973)
    • Total with first vaccine: 202,701 (+18,964)
    • Total with second vaccine: 57 (+9)
    • 49% of total half vaccinated (+5%)
    • 0% of total fully vaccinated
    Cohort 7 (People aged 16-69 who have an underlying conditions that puts them at high risk of severe disease and death)
    • Total in group: ~350,000
    • Total vaccines: 2,417 (+608)
    • Total with first vaccine: 2,414 (+607)
    • Total with second vaccine: 3 (+1)
    • 0.7% of total half vaccinated (+0.2%)
    • 0% of total fully vaccinated (+0%)
    Other "Uncoded" Cohort
    • Total: 900
    • First Dose: 851
    • Second Dose: 49
    Hospital stats as of 8 am today
    • Hospitalised: 110 (-16)
    • ICU: 33 (-1)
    • New admissions past 24 hours: 9
    The 5-day moving average: 406


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Normal One


    harr wrote: »
    23,000 people tested and under 500 swabs positive how are are numbers getting tested that high ?
    Are people just going to test centres for a few hours out of the house or what .. surely the criteria for testing needs to scaled back with that amount negative tests.

    This comes up nearly every day. There are a multitude of reasons for getting tested, apart from people showing some symptoms. Hospital admissions, certain workplaces, film sets, close contacts, walk-in centres and so on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Additionally, re: today's cases
    • Half are under 31
    • 77% are under 45
    Previous Saturdays (today: 408)
    • 01/05: 569
    • 24/04: 461
    5 day average

    407 (Last wk 477)

    7 day avg

    413 (Last wk: 464)

    14 day incidence rate

    129/100k (Last wk: 131)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Feeling increasingly optimistic about the summer right now. Everything is still moving in the right direction despite more things opening. Vaccinations are ramping up. On a personal level, had a nice day out at the zoo today. It’s really starting to feel like we’re near the end of this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Interesting stats about length of hospital stay, from Feb.

    Hospital admission probability and length of stay among Covid-19 ...
    https://assets.gov.ie/125771/11f37052-d28e-4cde-b747-99e59be75ca3.pdf

    Screenshot-20210508-173031.png

    Given that our daily admissions and discharges are now pretty evenly matched, a reduction in age of hospitalised patients and corresponding reduction in length of stay could explain why our hospital numbers keep going down.

    Once we get the average hospitalised age down from vaccinating the oldies, average stay should be about 5 days, less than half the average over the whole pandemic period. Plus lower hospitalisation risk for younger people.

    I'd guess that by the end of May several of our acute hospitals won't have any COVID patients at all, so if you happen to need hospitalisation you'll get the ward to yourself, or a private room.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    This week compared to last week. Good progress made.

    360 fewer cases and 282 fewer positive swabs from 2,536 extra tests carried out

    7 day positivity rate in testing down to 2.4% (2.7% last Saturday)

    13 fewer reported deaths (23 v 36)
    13 fewer in hospital (110 v 123)
    8 fewer in ICU (33 v 41)


    1,746, 912 vaccines now administered is was 1,527, 844 last Saturday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Lumen wrote: »
    Interesting stats about length of hospital stay, from Feb.

    Hospital admission probability and length of stay among Covid-19 ...
    https://assets.gov.ie/125771/11f37052-d28e-4cde-b747-99e59be75ca3.pdf


    My PDF reader isn't working for some reason

    Could you paste the Hospital admission probability for each age group here when you get a sec

    The "December onwards" stats will be grand, it's the only metrics we should really be looking at now

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    My PDF reader isn't working for some reason

    Could you paste the Hospital admission probability for each age group here when you get a sec

    The "December onwards" stats will be grand, it's the only metrics we should really be looking at now

    Thanks

    Screenshot-20210508-175735.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    Lumen wrote: »
    Screenshot-20210508-175735.png

    Looking at that I can't see why anyone under 50 is bothering to get the vaccine and the inevitable booster shots every year.

    Il be buying more Pfizer stock though


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Looking at that I can't see why anyone under 50 is bothering to get the vaccine and the inevitable booster shots every year.

    Il be buying more Pfizer stock though

    Have you never been really unpleasantly sick but not requiring hospitalisation?

    That's what Covid represents to me, based on the experiences of people I know of similar ages who've had it. A month off work followed by a slow recovery. Fcuk that, I have responsibilities, give me all the vaccines.

    edit: plus not worrying about giving it to other people


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Looking at that I can't see why anyone under 50 is bothering to get the vaccine and the inevitable booster shots every year.

    Il be buying more Pfizer stock though
    Boosters are not inevitable for everyone but definitely buy the stock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    Lumen wrote: »
    Have you never been really unpleasantly sick but not requiring hospitalisation?
    .

    Many times as have most humans at some stage of their lives.

    Each to their own with no judgement from others. I understand and accept your right to choose and your reasons for doing so

    Edit : other people will be vaccinated and you are assuming that I will have the virus!


  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Why are the probabilities of hospitalisation higher in March to July than other periods? Is it the type of people getting it, treatment not as good then or just that there were more beds available at that time?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    B2021M wrote: »
    Why are the probabilities of hospitalisation higher in March to July than other periods? Is it the type of people getting it, treatment not as good then or just that there were more beds available at that time?

    Treatment not as good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Lumen wrote: »
    Treatment not as good.

    Is treatment given prior to a hospitalisation?


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    B2021M wrote: »
    Is treatment given prior to a hospitalisation?

    Sorry, I misread your post to mean length of stay.

    I'd guess it's due to the lack of testing capacity resulting in only the more severe cases being detected.


  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Lumen wrote: »
    Sorry, I misread your post to mean length of stay.

    I'd guess it's due to the lack of testing capacity resulting in only the more severe cases being detected.

    Ah of course...sorry!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Looking at that I can't see why anyone under 50 is bothering to get the vaccine and the inevitable booster shots every year.

    Il be buying more Pfizer stock though

    Two bad decisions there.

    No point explaining the first.

    Profits from the boosters are already priced in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    Two bad decisions there.

    No point explaining the first.

    Profits from the boosters are already priced in.

    I did say more stock rather than first time purchase.

    For all you know I bought 50k worth 5 years ago.

    Regardless it's the long game and part of an umbrella of stocks , bonds, capital and commodities

    Neither decision is any of your concern or within your control


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    I did say more stock rather than first time purchase.

    For all you know I bought 50k worth 5 years ago.

    Regardless it's the long game and part of an umbrella of stocks , bonds, capital and commodities

    Neither decision is any of your concern or within your control

    "Hey internet, I'm doing a thing"
    "That's a bad idea"
    "None of your damn business!"

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,599 ✭✭✭eigrod


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Additionally, re: today's cases
    • Half are under 31
    • 77% are under 45
    Previous Saturdays (today: 408)
    • 01/05: 569
    • 24/04: 461
    5 day average

    407 (Last wk 477)

    7 day avg

    413 (Last wk: 464)

    14 day incidence rate

    129/100k (Last wk: 131)

    I wish they would publish what percentage of daily cases are under age 60 as the vast majority of over 60s have now received at least 1 vaccination. I would think 95%+ of daily cases now must be under age 60.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Looking at that I can't see why anyone under 50 is bothering to get the vaccine and the inevitable booster shots every year.

    Il be buying more Pfizer stock though

    The vaccines tank transmission rates. That's why you get one even if you aren't in a high risk group, apart from the fact that you have no way of knowing how you will react if you do get covid.

    But you are an anti Vax conspiracy theorist, so I am aware that science and logic have no place in your mind. Go back to sharing your silly memes with other gullible fools.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    I did say more stock rather than first time purchase.

    For all you know I bought 50k worth 5 years ago.

    Regardless it's the long game and part of an umbrella of stocks , bonds, capital and commodities

    Neither decision is any of your concern or within your control

    I'm not concerned, I'm happy to just demonstrate to other readers that you haven't a clue.

    If you knew anything about investments, you'd know that the scenario you described above would make it even less sensible to buy more now. :rolleyes:


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