Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

bennyineire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830497#Comment_117830497

I've been in a pub twice this year and TBH nothing really attracts me about going back anytime soon. Some of my friends have set up home bars and most of them just go there now. The current setup in the pubs is frankly crap and no craic.

Indeed I'm not sure the Pub trade will ever recover to what it was, there will be a lot of closures for sure

lee_baby_simms

I know NPHET have run more models to influence the latest recommendations and while I know they have a patchy track record on modelling outputs I would have some caveats in the back of my mind on any kind of predictions for the winter.

I spoke with a friend yesterday and he described how his mother still gets all her shopping delivered and leaves it untouched in the utility room overnight. She’s extremely careful about socialising, avoiding settings with crowds etc

I know this is anecdotal and many would believe over vigilant but I can help but wonder how many other, mainly older people, are acting with this level of caution?

I have a friend who manages a few pubs and he said indoor footfall is nothing like it used to be, obviously there are clear reasons for that now but maybe the sight of packed pubs this Christmas will be limited to mainly young people in the usual weekend hotspots and far less in smaller, rural and urban pubs

These behaviours are impossible predict but they could have a big influence on what many believe to be a massive flu season in the next few months.

bloopy

What is gone wrong with Pat Kenny?

Was just listening to him on the way into work and he seems to have gone a bit off the deep end.

Even the guests seemed to be trying to carefully pick their words in case they set him off.

kirk.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831542#Comment_117831542

Already happened in a lot of areas

Might accelerate it alright

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831574#Comment_117831574

That's COVID psychosis, a little studied phenomenon that causes some people to become completely obsessive or very irrational!

Cork2021

Fûck me, this tweet by Daniel McConnell has really got the bed wetters going!

also why in the name of god is that psychopath Tomas Ryan allowed on Tv!! ISAG are pitiful disgusting human beings!

https://twitter.com/mcconnelldaniel/status/1432821390177193984?s=21

seamus

Tomás Ryan gets airtime for the same reason that the Adrian Kennedy phoneshow had regulars with ridiculous opinions that they'd bring in to get the show heated up; because it gets the phoneline hopping.

It's a trick as old as time.

Unfortunately Dr. Ryan doesn't realise that he's a clown in a circus being made to perform for the amusement of others. He clearly doesn't understand human beings at all or the complexity of social and economic systems. His point has always been that, "We can just keep everything locked down until we eradicate this virus". And he thinks the only reason we're not doing it is greed or incompetence.

The sad part is that he's a research scientist who absolutely refuses to accept any data or study which doesn't fit his own opinion.

Vicxas

https://www.thejournal.ie/mu-covid-19-variant-5537033-Sep2021/

Oh.... yay

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831494#Comment_117831494

Sweet jesus, 7000 euro to fit our a home office?

Like, it's a desk, a chair and a monitor.

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831730#Comment_117831730

It's not a VOC, just a variant of interest so relax.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831554#Comment_117831554

Its the early closing time that puts people off. Some people have this idea that we want to go out and drink but its not actually true, what people really want to do is go out and socialise. So some idiot says "You can drink plenty before 11.30" but they are really missing the point.

I haven't been out since indoor pubs reopened because I have no interest in having drinks and then going home at 11.30, so I just don't go out to a pub at all, when that restriction is removed I will absolutely go back out again.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831494#Comment_117831494

Been over and over this so many times. People set up this strawman that everyone wants 100% WFH. The surveys actually show that not many want that (c 10%). Most (c.70-80%) want a mix. Yes, 100% WFH needs proper assessment and support. But hybrid working has been going on for years in most large companies. I have not been in the office more than 3 days a week for a decade. And it doesn’t take inspections or organisational investment. Just some online learning and questionnaires and a couple hundred euro for a mouse or 2nd screen. It was a trend before Covid and Covid will have just accelerated it. My deal now, permanently, is 2 days in the office, 3 at home. And the employer doesn’t have to inspect anything to do with my home setup

JDD

Weirdly, it's sort of attracted me more to go out to a pub. I suffer from terrible hangovers, and also a complete inability to resist just one more drink as it gets later into the night. The last two nights I've gone out I've had a great time with friends, and while I was disappointed that the bar closed at 11.30 it meant I didn't have four more drinks or bought a round of shots or something stupid. While I did have a hangover the next day, I wasn't dying.

That probably says more about my relationship with alcohol than it does about whether restrictions should or shouldn't be in place. But I've liked the earlier closing time.

bucketybuck

Yes, this is now more about certain people who prefer working from home and are using covid as a way to push for it, to suit their own ends.

I'd say more people are scared of having to get their ass properly dressed in the morning than they are of covid 19.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831764#Comment_117831764

Nah, just have better things to do with my time than commute. If people don’t mind the commute (or maybe even enjoy it) good for them, but I don’t roll that way. So good that it now only has to be done twice a week

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831779#Comment_117831779

But thats the point, this has nothing to do with covid 19, its about people who want to change their own circumstances and are using covid as an excuse to do it.

Don't want to travel in the morning? Shout about unsafe distance between desks and pretend to be scared of coming close to fellow employees, hint that if you ever catch a virus ever again that its the employer who will be liable. Job done. (in your pyjamas).

fun loving criminal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831530#Comment_117831530

And we're getting rid of masks on October 22 as well. Just in time for a long winter indoors.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831800#Comment_117831800

Covid is a disruptor. And disruptors should be taken advantage of, in business or any aspect of life, in order to improve things. In this case, should be used to accelerate a trend that was already underway (with the underlying driver being technology). Most people (those who were not already doing it) have realised that hybrid working is a possible long term option, and people, over time, will migrate to the companies that offer it

Derkaiser93

Waking up today to see and hear so many people in the media, community etc resistant to the idea of October 22nd. Fearful and calling it wreckless. And it's still seven weeks away. Ive always taken the pandemic seriously, and would have my doubts coming into winter but my god are we a nation of hysterical bedwetters. So many can't move on and will never be ready.

It makes sense why deep down we really did need and want the Catholic Church back in the day to tell us what to do and engrain sin, guilt and fear into us.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830497#Comment_117830497

What are you charging for a pint? That might have something to do with it.

daydorunrun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831192#Comment_117831192

There will be no more 'Lockdown' there may well be a rebranded, renamed 'Circuit Breaker' or 'Fire Break' implemented to protect hospitals if/when hospitals are overrun I'm guessing.

What I find interesting about this whole pandemic is how medicalised it has become rather than heath driven. We all know that getting our health, fitness, diet etc in order can be a really effective tool to enable each of us to deal with infection and recover with natural immunity but it is rarely stated. Doctors now just keep prescribing pill after pill to patients without giving advise on being healthy.

Sister in law is morbidly obese- has been prescribed a ton of medications, when she goes back the doc he checks blood pressure, asks a few questions and says 'that's better, keep doing what your doing.' never a word about how weight will effect her health- most of the meds could be done away with if she was a healthy weight I'm pretty certain. I know a couple of other that have similar situations- I wonder are doctors not allowed to tell it how it is with regards to obesity nowadays?

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831800#Comment_117831800

Yep. Everyone just looking for their own angle.

I'd say the complaints are 50-50 between;

a) Oh, so NOW employers are going to insist we come back to the office after we saved their asses by working from home so well the last 18 months? Typical.

and

b) Oh, so NOW employers are going to keep us at home so they can save on rent and electricity without passing the savings onto the staff? Typical.

PmMeUrDogs

I can't really find much clarification on this.

Mask mandate lifted in certain work and leisure sectors from 22nd October, grand. But not in retail, grand.

What about hospitality? Pub workers, restaurant workers etc? Will they still be required to wear masks in work from 22nd?

I work in that sector and while I'll wear a mask as long as is necessary with no complaints, I'm unsure if this guidance means I'll need to continue after 22nd or if it'll be optional

shesty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831862#Comment_117831862

Was it Churchill that said "never waste a good crisis?".

Should have been the motto for our health service over the last year...they had a golden opportunity and an open chequebook for serious reform to be carried out.Doubt it was taken advantage of.

sekond

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117832036#Comment_117832036

My experience is the opposite - certain doctors want to blame everything on obesity. My previous GP blamed everything on my weight - I was overweight but not obese. ("I'm having trouble with symptom A" "lose weight and it will go away", "Condition B has flared up again" "that'll be because you put on weight".). My new GP has a broader perspective, and while she doesn't pull any punches about my weight either, she's more likely to look into other potential causes - and as a result a couple of issues have been sorted, leaving me more brain space to deal with my weight.

BobHopeless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831308#Comment_117831308

I hope you are right i really do but how the hospitals cope will be the deciding factor. It's all down to vaccine usefulness months after being jabbed now.

PokeHerKing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117832036#Comment_117832036

I've a similar story about an extended family member but everytime they end up in A&E etc they're told first and foremost it's down to lifestyle.

Everyone knows being out of shape is bad for you. It's not the doctors fault if there's medication out there that can help with the issues being unfit/fat can cause.

They'd be unethical loons if instead of prescribing those meds they instead said go eat some vegetables and workout more, now get out of my hospital.

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831730#Comment_117831730

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117831738#Comment_117831738

Don't be worrying the media and other doomongers will latch onto this as its very much a possibility this will be 'vaccine resistant'

Let's hope common sense prevails and people aren't been frightened by this

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117832059#Comment_117832059

The only specified locations for masks after 22 October are transport and retail, everywhere else seems to be all about personal responsibility but it's all still contingent on cases being low enough.

stephenjmcd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117832101#Comment_117832101

No offence as I know your only repeating the term but anything that becomes fully "vaccine resistant" is essentially a new virus, it would require a complete change to the spike protein. The phrase vaccine resistant is thrown around way too much.

Also this VOC has been around since January, it clearly doesn't outcompete delta 9 months later