Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

wadacrack

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I asked for more evidence before jumping to conclusions. Bit of a difference, would you prefer I go full on scaremongering before knowing all the information.

We've done this dance before so probably best we leave it there because our opinions differ widely and that's fine but I respect your opinion, can't say it's reciprocated I think.

Its not scaremongering. I think its fair to say we have evidence that this variant is very transmissible and likely to cause another wave of some sort. The good news is the vaccine's are effective against it.

Yea that's fair enough.

Jim_Hodge

Any county breakdown today?

marno21

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Any county breakdown today?

No county breakdowns until the hack is over.

podgeandrodge

eagle eye wrote: »

I was on shop street in Galway a short time ago, lots of people around but all being sensible. Nearly all the shops were open, buskers playing on the street.
It was a really uplifting experience.

Good for you Eagle Eye!



No offence Eagle :pac:

marno21

Excellent thread on the B.1.617.2 variant by John Burn Murdoch of the FT.

Well worth a read.

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1394359535754698755

CalamariFritti

Do people actually get off posting this scare stuff that turns out to be nothing with one look at worldometer?

Corholio

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Do people actually get off posting this scare stuff that turns out to be nothing with one look at worldometer?

Funnily enough if you actually read it, it is saying the complete opposite. I mean, come on, it only takes a few seconds.

Goldengirl

wadacrack wrote: »

Its not scaremongering. I think its fair to say we have evidence that this variant is very transmissible and likely to cause another wave of some sort. The good news is the vaccine's are effective against it.

Yea that's fair enough.

I got told off a few weeks ago for raising concern about the Indian variant
In fairness it was only a variant of interest at that stage.

Deeper Blue

marno21 wrote: »

Excellent thread on the B.1.617.2 variant by John Burn Murdoch of the FT.

Well worth a read.

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1394359535754698755

Very interesting, thanks

Goldengirl

bodhrandude wrote: »

So I wonder if we'll get an Electric Picnic announcement despite the Ploughing being cancelled, maybe an Irish lineup with a few UK acts in there too. Main Covid thread drops off and Electric Picnic thread picks up.

Have tickets still ..no refund !

stephenjmcd

Goldengirl wrote: »

Have tickets still ..no refund !

At least you've got that option... have tickets for a gig in malahide since last year, pushed out to next year. At this stage I couldn't be too bothered going but they aren't even giving the option of a refund. Bloody pain

Goldengirl

stephenjmcd wrote: »

At least you've got that option... have tickets for a gig in malahide since last year, pushed out to next year. At this stage I couldn't be too bothered going but they aren't even giving the option of a refund. Bloody pain

Yeah , we have tickets for one in Trinity too and will probably be pushed out again to next Summer . They must have spent the money !
We had forgotten until one of our lads was going on about Longitude and we are getting that refund soon , hopefully .
He wanted to go to Belfast end of June but sure that was called off too ...

rameire

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yeah , we have tickets for one in Trinity too and will probably be pushed out again to next Summer . They must have spent the money !

I have tickets for Keane in Trinity from last year.
It was bounced to July this year and now is at June Next year.

bodhrandude

Goldengirl wrote: »

Have tickets still ..no refund !

There has been interest this year in a mainly thoroughly Irish lineup, if mandatory hotel quarantine is still a thing for UK headline acts, but I believe there is a common travel agreement with the UK. Melvin Benn is interested in testing it, there is more than enough amazing Irish acts out there, speculation in the EP thread that U2 could be a possible headliner to help the festival stay afloat seeing that they did play Glastonbury a few years ago, so are open to festival performances especially after the lull of live gigs throughout the pandemic.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/electric-picnic-2021-staging-a-covid-free-festival-is-possible-insuring-it-mightn-t-be-1.4564182

Goldengirl

bodhrandude wrote: »

There has been interest this year in a mainly thoroughly Irish lineup, if mandatory hotel quarantine is still a thing for UK headline acts, but I believe there is a common travel agreement with the UK. Melvin Benn is interested in testing it, there is more than enough amazing Irish acts out there, speculation in the EP thread that U2 could be a possible headliner to help the festival stay afloat seeing that they did play Glastonbury a few years ago, so are open to festival performances especially after the lull of live gigs throughout the pandemic.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/electric-picnic-2021-staging-a-covid-free-festival-is-possible-insuring-it-mightn-t-be-1.4564182

At this stage I don't mind if U2 were playing just want to go to a festival

Dr. Bre

No ploughing this year keep your social distance

PTH2009

Hoping to go see Genesis in the 3Arena in September and this particular leg of the tour is Ireland and a number of UK dates (announced in March 2020 before Covid). Trying to remain hoepful it finally happens in September this year (rescheduled twice)

Elton John in December to but he's doing a whole European leg on his tour and quite possibly that could be rescheduled

Everyone has there own personal end to this and mine will truly be when I'm entering the doors of the 3Arena

Goldengirl

PTH2009 wrote: »

Hoping to go see Genesis in the 3Arena in September and this particular leg of the tour is Ireland and a number of UK dates (announced in March 2020 before Covid). Trying to remain hoepful it finally happens in September this year (rescheduled twice)

Elton John in December to but he's doing a whole European leg on his tour and quite possibly that could be rescheduled

Everyone has there own personal end to this and mine will truly be when I'm entering the doors of the 3Arena

Have to agree with you there .
When you can go into a crowd and sing and dance without worrying that is when it will be over... here's to that and hold that thought

iamwhoiam

My moment when its all over will be when I go to the airport to pick up my daughter and my son and hug till we cant breathe anymore .

OwenM

Faugheen wrote: »

I agree with everything you've said and, in the case of the last two sentences in particular, have been saying that until I was blue in the face.

It suits the government just fine to listen to NPHET when there's bad news to be delivered and point the finger at 'the public health advice'.

They lost a lot more than just cinemas and going to the shops. Long hours likely away from their families (in the case of Holohan and Glynn in particular), schools being shut impacting their children's learning both academically and socially etc.

The narrative that NPHET had 'nothing to lose' is bollocks and it deserves to be called out as bollocks. What the poster probably meant was they didn't lose their jobs but that's such a lazy argument. Loads of people kept their jobs during the pandemic.

No that's not what I meant at all.

NPHET exist to provide advice to government that minimises the health impact of the virus on the Irish population. Any advice they offer is solely through that lens and it is their only responsibility, if you were part of NPHET why would you offer anything but the most cautious and conservative advice? You wouldn't.

The only risk they face is from not being ultra conservative and cautious - Asymmetrical Risk. So no, it's not bollocks as you so elegantly tried to put it.

Doctor Jimbob

Goldengirl wrote: »

At this stage I don't mind if U2 were playing just want to go to a festival

Think I'd prefer another year of lockdown.

WoollyRedHat

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Think I'd prefer another year of lockdown.

I'd prefer listen to Jedward do a Drum and Bass performance for 5 hours straight while Twink recites the same Haiku's over and over, than have to experience yet another lockdown.

Fakediamond

greenfarm wrote: »

In fairness NPHET and many others did too, Luke O'Neill has some embarrasing tweets when you look back on them on UK variant, not to worry he kept tweeting, citied early study after early study showing the variant not being anything serious and basically said people in UK were acting the eejits and not following lockdown like they should.

Luke O’Neill is also the man who went on the Late Late Show early in the pandemic and told us there was nothing to worry about and we should just wash our hands. At the same time, Prof McConkey was saying we needed to stop flights, test and trace, quarantine etc to stop the spread and was being seen as overreacting by O’Neill and de Gascun. Hindsight very much shows that McConkey was spot on at the time, when we only had about 10 cases, or less.

is_that_so

Fakediamond wrote: »

Luke O’Neill is also the man who went on the Late Late Show early in the pandemic and told us there was nothing to worry about and we should just wash our hands. At the same time, Prof McConkey was saying we needed to stop flights, test and trace, quarantine etc to stop the spread and was being seen as overreacting by O’Neill and de Gascun. Hindsight very much shows that McConkey was spot on at the time, when we only had about 10 cases, or less.

No point being "proven right" when the government of the day and NPHET itself are not going to take up that advice. The problem with McConkey et al is that they were never going to be involved in the things they claimed needed to be done and were by and large just talking heads.

Jinglejangle69

ICU numbers up by a third to 42.

Anyone shed light here, is it nothing to be concerned about?

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

ICU numbers up by a third to 42.

Anyone shed light here, is it nothing to be concerned about?

Roughly stable at 400 cases a day.

Over 2 million vaccinations to date.

Conclusion: there is nothing to be concerned about.

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

No point being "proven right" when the government of the day and NPHET itself are not going to take up that advice. The problem with McConkey et al is that they were never going to be involved in the things they claimed needed to be done and were by and large just talking heads.

Some might simply call them hurlers on the ditch

Le Bruise

stephenjmcd wrote: »

At least you've got that option... have tickets for a gig in malahide since last year, pushed out to next year. At this stage I couldn't be too bothered going but they aren't even giving the option of a refund. Bloody pain

You should be able to request a refund through ticketmaster? I had kept my All Together Now tickets from 2020, but decided to get a refund earlier this year, even though it's not postponed (yet). No problem getting the money back at all!

bodhrandude

This thread seems to be getting quieter and quieter, hopefully that's a good thing. Less news meaning more progress hopefully.

Westernyelp

Fakediamond wrote:

Luke O’Neill is also the man who went on the Late Late Show early in the pandemic and told us there was nothing to worry about and we should just wash our hands. At the same time, Prof McConkey was saying we needed to stop flights, test and trace, quarantine etc to stop the spread and was being seen as overreacting by O’Neill and de Gascun. Hindsight very much shows that McConkey was spot on at the time, when we only had about 10 cases, or less.

So it's Luke O Neil and Professor McConkey is it?
A little bit of Bias showing there no?