Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

DebDynamite

Socially distanced or sit down gigs, bars using the Scandinavian model, young people working from their bedroom, one of the few opportunities to meet a partner is online, wearing masks on public transport in case we get a cold... That sounds grim as hell.

DebDynamite

DebDynamite wrote: »

Socially distanced or sit down gigs, bars using the Scandinavian model, young people working from their bedroom, one of the few opportunities to meet a partner is online, wearing masks on public transport in case we get a cold... That sounds grim as hell.

It's a dystopia at odds with a gregarious and outgoing culture. Beyond time to get real, like the seasonal flu there's every possibility we'll be co-existing with Covid for the foreseeable future. There should be an acceptable risk factored in, as others have mentioned building natural immunity. Vaccines are taking the sting out of Covid, reducing its potency. Any wave that materialises next winter is likely to be inconsequential compared to last December/January.

Essentially life must resume as before, those who are still risk averse can remain at home. The rest of us should not be penalised for wanted to press on with a normal routine, for instance having a few jars with friends in the local... a simple pleasure of an odd evening. Also, struggling business owners need to be afforded a viable opportunity to ply their trade. Concurrently boosting the economy and filling in an enormous debt. The self-imposed shackles cast off once and for all.

wes

DebDynamite wrote: »

Socially distanced or sit down gigs, bars using the Scandinavian model, young people working from their bedroom, one of the few opportunities to meet a partner is online, wearing masks on public transport in case we get a cold... That sounds grim as hell.

Young people were meeting partners online for the most part before the pandemic.

The rest of the stuff is temporary, until we get to herd immunity.

AdamD

Deleted User wrote: »

It's a dystopia at odds with a gregarious and outgoing culture. Beyond time to get real, like the seasonal flu there's every possibility we'll be co-existing with Covid for the foreseeable future. There should be an acceptable risk factored in, as others have mentioned building natural immunity. Vaccines are taking the sting out of Covid, reducing its potency. Any wave that materialises next winter is likely to be inconsequential compared to last December/January.

Essentially life must resume as before, those who are still risk averse can remain at home. The rest of us should not be penalised for wanted to press on with a normal routine, for instance having a few jars with friends in the local... a simple pleasure of an odd evening. Also, struggling business owners need to be afforded a viable opportunity to ply their trade. Concurrently boosting the economy and filling in an enormous debt. The self-imposed shackles cast off once and for all.

Life will resume. Some people are in complete delusion that life has been changed forever, that people are happy to socially distance, that online has replaced actual socialising. It hasn't. If pubs opened tomorrow they'd be wedged. Its going to be difficult to get bookings for the first few weekends of outdoor dining even.

A few lunatics saying otherwise doesn't change it

wadacrack

72 cases of the Indian variant detected.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1395724782830817282

PTH2009

wadacrack wrote: »

72 cases of the Indian variant detected.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1395724782830817282

Not the news we wanted really

Corholio

PTH2009 wrote: »

Not the news we wanted really

I don't see what would be unexpected about it though. There's more cases of the variant than last count, practically impossible to be the same or less. Very expected news.

First Up

AdamD wrote:

Life will resume. Some people are in complete delusion that life has been changed forever, that people are happy to socially distance, that online has replaced actual socialising. It hasn't. If pubs opened tomorrow they'd be wedged. Its going to be difficult to get bookings for the first few weekends of outdoor dining even.

A few lunatics saying otherwise doesn't change it

Interesting definition of lunatics.

Dr. Em

DebDynamite wrote: »

Socially distanced or sit down gigs, bars using the Scandinavian model, young people working from their bedroom, one of the few opportunities to meet a partner is online, wearing masks on public transport in case we get a cold... That sounds grim as hell.

Having spent some time in Norway, the bars did seem a bit quieter... because people were getting absolutely plastered at house parties. Do you think this is what they meant by the Scandinavian model? :,-)

That said, they do seem to drink outside more. We could use a few more beer gardens.

Cork2021

wadacrack wrote: »

72 cases of the Indian variant detected.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1395724782830817282

Trying not to get angry here! But would NPHET just fûck off! This variant ****e needs to be nipped in the bud! It’s doesn’t evade vaccines, but yet they say it might. We know it doesn’t so fûck off! Don’t threaten people that we’ll look at restrictions just in case crap! The country is administering 300k doses of vaccine a week now, it’ll totally outstrip any case number and plus the majority of the vulnerable that could end up in hospitals won’t because they’re fully vaccinated!

stephenjmcd

PTH2009 wrote: »

Not the news we wanted really

+11 on the week before. Not exactly bad news either is it ?

marno21

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1395738512574533634?s=21

This needs to stop. UK proceeding at full speed towards their full opening on June 21st. I have no idea what this negativity is about.

stephenjmcd

marno21 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1395738512574533634?s=21

This needs to stop. UK proceeding at full speed towards their full opening on June 21st. I have no idea what this negativity is about.

Gotta keep up the undercurrent of caution, couldn't allow people to have some hope.

Vaccines work, were vaccinating away, get on with it ffs

stephenjmcd

Data from the UK, of the 9 trial events for mass gatherings held recently, 60,000 attendees, 15 cases detected.

Safe to say the trial went well

cameramonkey

Are there any accurate figures for the number of vaccines administered?

bucketybuck

PTH2009 wrote: »

Not the news we wanted really

Yeah, I've no interest in hearing from Holohan either.

Not outside of a full public inquiry anyway.

PTH2009

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Data from the UK, of the 9 trial events for mass gatherings held recently, 60,000 attendees, 15 cases detected.

Safe to say the trial went well

Yeah very good to see, gives great hope for the near future

Lets hope Ireland's versions go as well, would there be a danger of our officials wanting 0 cases from the events ?

Eod100

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1395740620635971587?s=19

stephenjmcd

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1395740620635971587?s=19

Every cloud has a sliver lining

FintanMcluskey

bucketybuck wrote: »

Yeah, I've no interest in hearing from Holohan either.

Not outside of a full public inquiry anyway.

When do NPHET declare the crisis over?

Realistically it ended when the vulnerable were vaccinated in Ireland, but it’s certainly over now, with the numbers in hospital and the numbers vaccinated.

Who blows the whistle to end the game?

FintanMcluskey

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1395740620635971587?s=19

Fair play to him

That will be a big help to the mood of the nation

Timmy O Toole

Why is he concerned, the vaccine is proven to work against it, and its not any more contagious.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1395739668734435332?s=19

seamus

cameramonkey wrote: »

Are there any accurate figures for the number of vaccines administered?

No, not really. Easy enough for someone to manually tot up what's being done in the MVCs, but there's no reasonable way to collect the data from GPs until the IT system is back up.

Although Tony Holohan's warning seems somewhat out of kilter with where we are, I can see the reason for his concern.

There's the potential from when we open up further in early June that the dogs will be let loose and people will go socialising as normal again. Which, like it or not, can lead to a massive surge in cases because we won't be anywhere near herd immunity at that stage.

The closer we are to having all 60+ fully vaccinated, the closer we are to people saying, "That's grand now, all the vulnerable are vaccinated", and taking more risks with the public health guidelines. I can see it all around. I can feel my own brain going down that road.

The odds are that the weather in June coupled with only outdoor dining & boozing, should be enough to keep it at bay. But if we were to have a very wet June (it can happen), then there should be some genuine concern about what could happen.

cheezums

Everyone needs to STFU about variants unless the following is true:

The variant is proven to be significantly more deadly than normal and/or is proven to be significantly more resistant to current vaccines.


Increased transmissibility is completely irrelevant now.

Speak Now

For the love of God, blue sky but black clouds on the horizon.

Timmy O Toole

As with everything, Ireland will be last. This is more to keep Failte Ireland happy i think.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1395731665599832065?s=19

shinzon

I really really do hope that were at the end of this so we can get on with things. I just cant help thinking that with all the twists and turns that covid has one last kick in the bollocks for us especially with the Indian variant and the Yorkshire variant I read about this morning.

Hope not I really do.

Shin

Timmy O Toole

shinzon wrote: »

I really really do hope that were at the end of this so we can get on with things. I just cant help thinking that with all the twists and turns that covid has one last kick in the bollocks for us especially with the Indian variant and the Yorkshire variant I read about this morning.

Hope not I really do.

Shin

The "double mutant" Yorkshire variant ?

PTH2009

Jesus this NPHET briefing

shinzon

Timmy O Toole wrote: »

The "double mutant" Yorkshire variant ?

From Sky news timeline timeline timestamped 12.53

New 'Yorkshire variant' investigated with 49 cases confirmed

Public Health England has said it is investigating another new variant after 49 cases were identified, mostly in Yorkshire and the Humber region.

So far, there is no evidence that it causes more severe disease or renders the vaccines less effective, it said.

Downing Street said the situation will continue to be monitored.

Boris Johnson's official spokesman said: "There have been a number of variants throughout the pandemic and there will continue to be so. There are three mutations of the B1617 strain, as I think has been discussed previously, but as we do with all variants where we spot and identify them through our genomic sequencing programme, we will continue to monitor them and we will designate them as variants under investigation, and then variants of concern if we deem them to be of greater risk.

"But again, as you've seen throughout the pandemic, that's what we've done and we won't hesitate to put in measures that we think are necessary to try and tackle the transmission of any variants."

Asked whether the discovery of the new variant would have an impact on the next stage of restrictions lifting on 21 June, the spokesman said the five-week gap between measures relaxing would allow the variant to be monitored.

He added: "As the prime minister has said, we will continue to look at all the statistical evidence and data, and we'll set out our plans as soon as the data allows."

Shin