Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

corkie

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1397954147199107074


As of midnight, Wednesday 26 May, we are reporting
436* confirmed cases of #COVID19.

39 in ICU. 101 in hospital.

*Daily case numbers may change due to future data review, validation and update.




Covid-19 deaths ‘collapse’ with eight confirmed in 12 days
Speaking at a weekly briefing on Thursday, the HSE’s chief clinical officer Dr Colm Henry said there had been eight deaths from Covid-19 in the 12 days from the data breach to Wednesday.

^^^ What is not clear is when the deaths (RIP) occurred.

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Poorly protected from what?

They have to wait 3 months for their 2nd jab
The Indian variant reduces effacacy by half on first doses

Jinglejangle69

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They actually don't really know.

"Indian variant is still spreading, with the latest estimates showing that almost half, and possibly three-quarters of all new cases are of this variant.

Mr Hancock says we must remain vigilant, and the aim is to break the link to hospitalisations and deaths so that cases alone no longer require stringent restrictions.

The increase in cases remains focused in hotspots and we are doing all we can,"

Also noted that hospitalisations are not rising

Exactly.

The vaccines are still protecting against serious illness and death.

This is what people can't seem to grasp.

stephenjmcd

Dr Henry discussed the impact of vaccination at this afternoons HSE press conference

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1397954802659823616?s=19

Jinglejangle69

Marine Layer wrote: »

They have to wait 3 months for their 2nd jab
The Indian variant reduces effacacy by half on first doses

And??

All it means is they can catch it but only have mild symptoms.

They are still protected from death and hospitalisations.

Which are the most important factors.

stephenjmcd

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They actually don't really know.

"Indian variant is still spreading, with the latest estimates showing that almost half, and possibly three-quarters of all new cases are of this variant.

Mr Hancock says we must remain vigilant, and the aim is to break the link to hospitalisations and deaths so that cases alone no longer require stringent restrictions.

The increase in cases remains focused in hotspots and we are doing all we can,"

Also noted that hospitalisations are not rising

Yeah but the UK is in a much better place in terms of vaccinations including 2nd Astra than us,significantly better
Here we have cohort 7s unvaccinated aswell

ZX7R

Marine Layer wrote: »

The indian variant is 75% of cases now in GB
People in their 50s and 60s who got astrazenica are going to be poorly protected all summer as that variant takes hold here and it will
Theres a strong case for 2nd dosing them sooner and giving jaansen excusively to under 50s along with pfizer and moderna at this stage

Indian strain is becoming the dominant strain alright, but the growth of expected cases of the virus whichever kent or Indian is still way below the expected growth due to the relaxation of there restrictions so far.
Israel is the country to watch confirmed community transmission 3 weeks ago, a week ago 41 was the highest day rate of infection and has dropped off since then 10 reported cases today.

Gael23

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dr Henry discussed the impact of vaccination at this afternoons HSE press conference

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1397954802659823616?s=19

He’s getting a clip around the ears from Tony for saying that

cheezums

this indian variant hysteria is ridiculous. vaccines work against it. it's not more deadly. likely more transmissible. pretty much all of this countries vulnerable are now vaccinated. there is definitely an element of doom addiction going on here.

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

And??

All it means is they can catch it but only have mild symptoms.

They are still protected from death and hospitalisations.

Which are the most important factors.

Actually the PHE study said there was currently insuffecient evidence to know what coverage there is at one jab for those
Rocking ahead in the dark is not a good plan for those on Astra waiting 3 months for that all important 2nd dose

Jinglejangle69

cheezums wrote: »

this indian variant hysteria is ridiculous. vaccines work against it. it's not more deadly. likely more transmissible. pretty much all of this countries vulnerable are now vaccinated. there is definitely an element of doom addiction going on here.

100%.

The media and people not understanding what efficacy actually means.

Jinglejangle69

Marine Layer wrote: »

Actually the PHE study said there was currently insuffecient evidence to know what coverage there is at one jab for those
Rocking ahead in the dark is not a good plan for those on Astra waiting 3 months for that all important 2nd dose

Coverage of what?????

All the vaccine manufacturers have said their vaccines protect against death and serious illness from the Indian variant.

Stop with the scaremongering please.

Stick to the facts.

Gael23

Gael23 wrote: »

He’s getting a clip around the ears from Tony for saying that

Vaccines a runaway success story? Not a convenient narrative for keeping the public in thrall to NPHET & RTÉ, sowing fear and uncertainty is an effective tool of manipulation. Can't have greenshoots of optimism empowering the masses to embrace life to the fullest.

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Coverage of what?????

Hospitalisation and death
You of course know thats what I said

bodhrandude

cheezums wrote: »

this indian variant hysteria is ridiculous. vaccines work against it. it's not more deadly. likely more transmissible. pretty much all of this countries vulnerable are now vaccinated. there is definitely an element of doom addiction going on here.

So you're saying you don't give a phuck about Cohort 4/7 then.

igCorcaigh

75% of the *new* cases in UK are the Indian variant, according to sky news.

Jinglejangle69

Marine Layer wrote: »

Hospitalisation and death
You of course know thats what I said

Well that's a lie.

The UK have just said hospitalisations remain low with the Indian variant been the dominant one now.

Dr. Em

Marine Layer wrote: »

The indian variant is 75% of cases now in GB
People in their 50s and 60s who got astrazenica are going to be poorly protected all summer as that variant takes hold here and it will
Theres a strong case for 2nd dosing them sooner and giving jaansen excusively to under 50s along with pfizer and moderna at this stage

One dose of AstraZeneca isn't that bad at providing protection. According to this, one dose of AZ is as good or better than Janssen. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccine-one-shot-effectiveness-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-vaccines-dose-2021-3%3famp

That's assuming, of course, that AZ can actually make their deliveries.

iamwhoiam

cheezums wrote: »

this indian variant hysteria is ridiculous. vaccines work against it. it's not more deadly. likely more transmissible. pretty much all of this countries vulnerable are now vaccinated. there is definitely an element of doom addiction going on here.

Are you forgetting cohort 7 along with the media and the HSE ? The forgotten high risk cohort

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Well that's a lie.

The UK have just said hospitalisations remain low with the Indian variant been the dominant one now.

Yes but where are they on vaccinations lad versus us?
Also its not a lie,the PHE study actually did state theres not enough evidence yet to assess the effect of the indian variant on hospitalisations and death
They are in a much better place protection wise Not to find out
Would you like us to be the guinea pig by following the UK before we have caught up with vaccinations ?

FintanMcluskey

bodhrandude wrote: »

So you're saying you don't give a phuck about Cohort 4/7 then.

Surely in the name of all that’s holy those in that cohort can protect themselves for the next few weeks and not expect others to do so

Or is it still more comforting that we all suffer

cheezums

bodhrandude wrote: »

So you're saying you don't give a phuck about Cohort 4/7 then.

with our current vaccination levels, the effective IFR for this thing currently in ireland is now likely no worse than regular flu.

FintanMcluskey

cheezums wrote: »

with our current vaccination levels, the effective IFR for this thing currently in ireland is now likely no worse than regular flu.

That statement will cause serious consternation

bodhrandude

cheezums wrote: »

with our current vaccination levels, the effective IFR for this thing currently in ireland is now likely no worse than regular flu.

cheezums you need to check this thread, a lot of cohort 7 has yet to be done, especially folk with respiratory diseases. I know its a fecking drag, I'm one of the luckier ones I get my second dose tomorrow but there is confusion out there with GPs pulling out of vaccinations and hopefully the portal will open up for this group.

Dr. Em

Dr. Em wrote: »

One dose of AstraZeneca isn't that bad at providing protection. According to this, one dose of AZ is as good or better than Janssen. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccine-one-shot-effectiveness-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-vaccines-dose-2021-3%3famp

That's assuming, of course, that AZ can actually make their deliveries.

I think theres a bit of hysteria in this thread towards people urging caution
I havent seen any study on jaannsen and the Indian variant yet
I'm just advocating that a speedier 2nd dose of Astra is imperative now

igCorcaigh

cheezums wrote: »

with our current vaccination levels, the effective IFR for this thing currently in ireland is now likely no worse than regular flu.

At a population level perhaps, but not necessarily for the individual.

Gael23

Deleted User wrote: »

Vaccines a runaway success story? Not a convenient narrative for keeping the public in thrall to NPHET & RTÉ, sowing fear and uncertainty is an effective tool of manipulation. Can't have greenshoots of optimism empowering the masses to embrace life to the fullest.

Yes, telling us that cases are no longer linked to hospitalisation na death doesn’t fit Tony’s script

Polar101

cheezums wrote: »

this indian variant hysteria is ridiculous. vaccines work against it. it's not more deadly. likely more transmissible. pretty much all of this countries vulnerable are now vaccinated. there is definitely an element of doom addiction going on here.

That's a lot of definite statements. There is no hysteria, and vaccines seem to work against it. But just to dismiss it as something that's not concerning is just ignorant. It's also way too early to declare the vulnerable are vaccinated - they are not. Many of them have had their 1st dose, some of them have had their 2nd dose.

speckle

On a totally different note Us Prez...just ordered new investigation into the covid laboratory leak hypothesis.

cheezums

Polar101 wrote: »

That's a lot of definite statements. There is no hysteria, and vaccines seem to work against it. But just to dismiss it as something that's not concerning is just ignorant. It's also way too early to declare the vulnerable are vaccinated - they are not. Many of them have had their 1st dose, some of them have had their 2nd dose.

no indian variant hysteria?? lol