Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Boggerman12

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Tony Holohan isn't a part of the Government.

Not part just whole government.but the sainted Tony was beyond criticism and if u did you are deemed beyond the pail

TheDoctor

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Anyone able to tell me last time hospital numbers were so low?

Also I presume they are getting hospital numbers right even with cyber attack? Like hardly dealing with huge numbers there?!

Think it’s the lowest total number since 23rd September when we had 88.

On May 29th last year we had 171 in hospital and 42 in ICU

Coillte_Bhoy

Ive no real issue with the tweet itself, if thats what he thinks fair enough, but and its a big but does he think these kind of gatherings have only started this weekend? It's quite extraordinary in that case

ypres5

TheDoctor wrote: »

Think it’s the lowest total number since 23rd September when we had 88.

On May 29th last year we had 171 in hospital and 42 in ICU

And let's be honest we'll probably never see hospital numbers that high ever again with the vaccine rollout covering the most vulnerable demographics. It's time to stop with all the quivering and pontificating and permanently reopen society

FintanMcluskey

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Ive no real issue with the tweet itself, if thats what he thinks fair enough, but and its a big but does he think these kind of gatherings have only started this weekend? It's quite extraordinary in that case

I do have an issue with the tweet

He is devaluing the influence of public health messaging with that pedantic nonsense

ypres5

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I do have an issue with the tweet

He is devaluing the influence of public health messaging with that pedantic nonsense

The problem is he's too used to the media treating him like he's the son of god with barely a whimper of criticism bar the odd opinion piece in the times or the odd guest on newstalk. I wonder what way the press will react this time though, as even they seem fed up with it.

hmmm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I am getting a bit tired of being spoken to like a child. People are outside. It's low risk.

It's very poor risk communication.

People were told to go outside. They're outside. Apparently they're not doing the right kind of outside. It's shaming people, and you can already see the usual suspects winding up to step in from their barbecues in their big gardens in Donnybrook to criticise.

If this isn't what the government want, the Guards should be breaking it up. Instead it's unclear what exactly the government have meant by telling people to have an "outdoor Summer". And so far we have seen no big spike in cases following the fine weather over previous weekends.

Larbre34

I don't believe any public servant / senior official should be firing off personal tweets without it going through the proper channels and agreed messaging. In fact we've heard from far too many health officials in this period, none of whom we elected. I'm not saying its entirely improper, just entirely too much.

Coillte_Bhoy

Larbre34 wrote: »

I don't believe any public servant / senior official should be firing off personal tweets without it going through the proper channels and agreed messaging. In fact we've heard from far too many health officials in this period, none of whom we elected. I'm not saying its entirely improper, just entirely too much.

Utterly irrelevant, this kind of nonsense keeps getting posted

SPDUB

Cork2021 wrote: »

If Tony is watching the champions league final and sees the Chelsea players shifting the trophy he’ll need a triple by pass tomorrow

Seriously what has that to do with Ireland ?

FintanMcluskey

SPDUB wrote: »

Seriously what has that to do with Ireland ?

Have you followed the thread for the last 2 hours

Tony “tweeted” that he is “absolutely shocked“ that there is a few out socialising outdoors (when he has kept all indoor social outlets closed for months)

Meanwhile in the rest of the world thousands attended a European cup final

Widdensushi

SPDUB wrote: »

Seriously what has that to do with Ireland ?

If you are obsessive about covid I think it would affect you if you see behaviour you don't approve of in a nearby country.

Larbre34

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Utterly irrelevant, this kind of nonsense keeps getting posted

When they are the ones our elected representatives are listening to, of course its relevant. I want to hear from the organ grinder, not the monkeys.

I thought they had behavioural experts on all these committees and boards.

Surely someone with a good understanding of actual real human beings can see some simple cause and effect here?

Close of all social outlets, new ones will pop up. Sadly, like with the canal at portobello, the lazy action of closing these streets or heavily policing them will be the option chosen.

Deeper Blue

They're expecting a crowd of 135,000 at the Indy 500 race tomorrow in the US.

Meanwhile in Ireland we'll be having a few dozen people in 10k stadiums in July if we're good boys and girls

bucketybuck

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Ive no real issue with the tweet itself, if thats what he thinks fair enough, but and its a big but does he think these kind of gatherings have only started this weekend? It's quite extraordinary in that case

Of course he knows they haven't.

Which should raise questions about his motives here. Tony Holohan just happened to be driving around Dublin City centre this evening and just happened to see people congregating outdoors, which just happened to prompt him to announce that our "progress" was at risk...

Dank Janniels

Everyone bitching bout lockdown would be still bitching if there was no lockdown. The sheer lack of compassion or decency from all the cranks and crackpot is deeply worrying, like what's the alternative? Do nothing and let it spread? I'd love to see sum of them in charge and see what they would do. Or all the cranks and people in social media comment sections ranting and raving- what would they do or how would they cope if they got it or sum1 they know died from it?

Deeper Blue

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Everyone bitching bout lockdown would be still bitching if there was no lockdown. The sheer lack of compassion or decency from all the cranks and crackpot is deeply worrying, like what's the alternative? Do nothing and let it spread? I'd love to see sum of them in charge and see what they would do. Or all the cranks and people in social media comment sections ranting and raving- what would they do or how would they cope if they got it or sum1 they know died from it?

Welcome to Boards Tony!

Ficheall

https://twitter.com/anspailpin/status/1398756388747321346


Covid aside - that looks f*cking hellish :eek:

Dank Janniels

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Everyone bitching bout lockdown would be still bitching if there was no lockdown. The sheer lack of compassion or decency from all the cranks and crackpot is deeply worrying, like what's the alternative? Do nothing and let it spread? I'd love to see sum of them in charge and see what they would do. Or all the cranks and people in social media comment sections ranting and raving- what would they do or how would they cope if they got it or sum1 they know died from it?

The irony in this post is overwhelming. Any compassion at all for the half million people forced out of employment during lockdown, the proliferation of mental health issues? No, I didn't think so. And how would the majority of the population cope if they contracted Covid? The absolute minimum of fuss, many of whom wouldn't even be aware without swabbing to confirm its presence. You should be ashamed of yourself vilifying folks wanting to get on with their working lives & contribute to the economy as "cranks and crackpots".

Renjit

Ficheall wrote: »

https://twitter.com/anspailpin/status/1398756388747321346


Covid aside - that looks f*cking hellish :eek:

Dandy covid brunch!

jam_mac_jam

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The irony in this post is overwhelming. Any compassion at all for the half million people forced out of employment during lockdown, the proliferation of mental health issues? No, I didn't think so. And how would the majority of the population cope if they contracted Covid? The absolute minimum of fuss, many of whom wouldn't even be aware without swabbing to confirm its presence. You should be ashamed of yourself vilifying folks wanting to get on with their working lives & contribute to the economy as "cranks and crackpots".

100 people in hospital and people horrified that people are having cans on a sunny day.

Just open everything. And at least people won't be pissing on the street.

Oh no. People enjoying themselves. The selfishness. The horror.

How about they vaccinate everyone and stop blaming the population for their failures.

MrMusician18

Ficheall wrote: »

https://twitter.com/anspailpin/status/1398756388747321346


Covid aside - that looks f*cking hellish :eek:

Indeed. That looks like the definition of hell covid or no covid.

ClosedAccountFuzzy

There are times when this seems unending, but I think we don’t need to be under some kind of lock down, but just keeping a modicum of social distancing and not jam packing a street might not be the worst idea.

We’re still significantly behind US or UK levels of vaccination but only by a few weeks at the pace we’re going.

It just seems to me that the messaging is either confusing or patronising and the room is being lost.

Silentcorner

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Once you give that power to someone it's extremely difficult to take back.

They won't let it go without a fight.

The bishops were as bad!

MrMusician18

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

100 people in hospital and people horrified that people are having cans on a sunny day.

Just open everything. And at least people won't be pissing on the street.

Oh no. People enjoying themselves. The selfishness. The horror.

How about they vaccinate everyone and stop blaming the population for their failures.

That's not true. The reaction is to the huge tightly packed crowd in narrow streets.

And it is pretty ****in selfish. Covid aside, the crowd will piss everywhere and dump their rubbish on the street. Wonderful contribution to society they're making.

Dank Janniels

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The irony in this post is overwhelming. Any compassion at all for the half million people forced out of employment during lockdown, the proliferation of mental health issues? No, I didn't think so. And how would the majority of the population cope if they contracted Covid? The absolute minimum of fuss, many of whom wouldn't even be aware without swabbing to confirm its presence. You should be ashamed of yourself vilifying folks wanting to get on with their working lives & contribute to the economy as "cranks and crackpots".

Ashamed of myself for caring bout the health and safety of myself, my family and people I care about? Heath and safety comes 1st. The economy comes 2nd.

jam_mac_jam

MrMusician18 wrote: »

That's not true. The reaction is to the huge tightly packed crowd in narrow streets.

And it is pretty ****in selfish. Covid aside, the crowd will piss everywhere and dump their rubbish on the street. Wonderful contribution to society they're making.

Open pubs and restaurants so and you can track the people going there.
Seems to be fine in loads of other European countries.

Ficheall

Ficheall wrote: »

https://twitter.com/anspailpin/status/1398756388747321346


Covid aside - that looks f*cking hellish :eek:

Much better if they’d outdoor dining open at least. Weather good today so people could easily have sat outside.

ClosedAccountFuzzy

The pubs and restaurants being entirely closed is a major issue. Even things like lack of toilets is pretty horrendous when you get crowds like that.

You’d have a lot more cop on with proper outdoor seating.