Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

ceadaoin.

gozunda wrote: »

I think that was already covered tbf.

Its not only for fully vaccinated people. Where is that coming from?

In addition to limited attendance, further key health and safety measures at the 2.5-mile track include:
Face coverings will be required and enforced throughout the venue.
There will be spacing between customer groups in the grandstands. In addition, spacing will be enforced throughout the venue.
Spectator viewing mounds will be closed to the general public throughout the Month of May, with no Race Day General Admission tickets sold.
Frequent cleaning and sanitation processes will be in place, with hand sanitizer and washing stations readily available.

No mention of a vaccine requirement.

gozunda

domrush wrote: »

The comment you linked to is rubbish, look at how dense the crowd is at it:


https://mobile.twitter.com/john_mcguirk/status/1399032615705972736

Is it?

The event is being strictly limited to 40% of normal capacity with Covid-19 rules at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway clearly stating that masks must be worn except when eating and drinking and to maintain space between your group and those of other fans. And that from official Indy500 news

So yeah dense crowds seems to be a common theme all right ...

titan18

Klonker wrote: »

Like, the rubbish shouldn't be left there obviously but isn't this what we pay taxes for, so that our streets are cleaned? If people think our young people are more unruly than their European counterparts they're wrong. It's just another case of our public services being below par.

That's a pretty bad attitude to have for rubbish. People should clean up after themselves

martingriff

RunningFlyer wrote: »

Just small anecdote not that it matters.

Met a few friends outside a pub yesterday that has just opened this weekend for takeaway pints. Big square opposite pub and multiple food businesses surrounding. Got there at 3pm and bins were already full. I’d like to think myself and mates are very responsible but we had to stack all our empty plastic glasses until we left approx 7pm. One of the lads took our collection home but it was visible no one else were making the effort.

Was my first time seeing mates over a pint since this kicked off so was absolutely amazing atmosphere IMO. Don’t blame younger people for doing same in Dublin. With over 50% of vulnerable vaccinated there has to be a point where people are given the choice to make their own risk decisions.

I have no problem with sitting around in a park or square as long as they are behaving themselves and being safe. The councils Gardai and government should allow this. Fair play on bringing your stuff away. You do know you mentioned only half of vulnerable vaccinated yes.

Amirani

eeepaulo wrote: »

Surely we've had advanced warning of this, I'm not condoning pissing on the street or leaving rubbish but I watched that video of Dublin this morning and every bin was stuffed full of rubbish.

Maybe a few skips and porta toilets? Not to encourage but just to help. Cost a few quid but hey, look at lock down. I'm sure if we put them in strategic places we could control the gatherings to a certain extent.

I was walking around Exchequer Street/Wicklow Street area yesterday about 2pm. I had a food container that I was trying to dispose of, it took me about 3 or 4 mins to get a bin that wasn't full, and I passed about 4 or 5 that were full. This was early afternoon, can only imagine how much worse things were in the evening. Add in people who have had some alcohol, and they won't be spending 3/4 mins looking for an empty bin.

I don't think we have enough bin capacity for the number of people eating outdoors in the city centre at the moment. Bins are full of food and containers etc that would normally be in restaurant kitchen bins instead. This is another example of Dublin City Council completely failing to show any planning for "outdoor Summer".

Always_Running

This week compared to last week

134 fewer cases
17 fewer in hospital
8 fewer in ICU

Micky 32

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Leo was asked a specific (and somewhat loaded) question



What did you want? Evade the question or lie about what is in the policy plan?

Er no or did i “want” your nonsense reply either. I was pointing out the tactic he’s using to scaremonger people after the orgy in Dublin yesterday along with his 4th wave threat too.

ginoginelli

martingriff wrote: »

Aren't takeaway drinks allowed? So you blame the publicans not the actual people for leaving there litter. Also if it is illegal they are more at fault for being there

They're were told not to but the gov deemed it too much hassle to actually change the law.

There is a law though that the pints have to be consumed a minimum of 100 feet from the pub. This has been blatantly broken the past few weeks with many pubs opening their newly installed outdoor furniture and everybody congreating at the bar.

The guards should have shut them down the very first day and nipped this in the bud, but predictably they did nothing.

Let's just open they have a some type of plan for next week when we officially open outdoors dining

ClosedAccountFuzzy

Amirani wrote: »

I was walking around Exchequer Street/Wicklow Street area yesterday about 2pm. I had a food container that I was trying to dispose of, it took me about 3 or 4 mins to get a bin that wasn't full, and I passed about 4 or 5 that were full. This was early afternoon, can only imagine how much worse things were in the evening. Add in people who have had some alcohol, and they won't be spending 3/4 mins looking for an empty bin.

I don't think we have enough bin capacity for the number of people eating outdoors in the city centre at the moment. Bins are full of food and containers etc that would normally be in restaurant kitchen bins instead. This is another example of Dublin City Council completely failing to show any planning for "outdoor Summer".

You should have brought a wheelie bin from home and your own toilet. That seems to be the general logic.

MrMusician18

PTH2009 wrote: »

The pub no/low music thing is annoying to understand and justify

Parks are full of groups with Bluetooth speakers and no shouting or anything is been done

Music in pubs was only ever a ploy to make you drink more. Drown out the chat so you fill the gaps with mouthfuls.

Good riddance to bar music, especially piped music.

MrMusician18

FuzzyThinking wrote: »

You should have brought a wheelie bin from home and your own toilet. That seems to be the general logic.

No, just should've brought it home if he couldn't find a bin.

irishguy1983

Always_Running wrote: »

This week compared to last week

134 fewer cases
17 fewer in hospital
8 fewer in ICU

Also another 250,000 - 300,000 vaccination doses belted out in the last 7 days! Happy days

ClosedAccountFuzzy

MrMusician18 wrote: »

No, just should've brought it home if he couldn't find a bin.

The general message I’m getting is: don’t go out. Stay at home. Until after 7th there’s nothing worth doing and there aren’t any reasonable facilities.

Jim_Hodge

Micky 32 wrote: »

Er no or did i “want” your nonsense reply either. I was pointing out the tactic he’s using to scaremonger people after the orgy in Dublin yesterday along with his 4th wave threat too.

And you're ignoring the fact that he was specifically asked about localised lockdowns and gave a straight honest answer.

The nonsense is looking for outrage and spinning it to give yourself something to whine about.

AGAIN, I'll ask. Do you want him to lie about what the policy plan states with regard to local lockdowns? How outraged would you be if he said it would never happen or could never happen and then it became necessary? At least he expressed reservations as to their usefulness.

NIMAN

Always_Running wrote: »

This week compared to last week

134 fewer cases
17 fewer in hospital
8 fewer in ICU

Yet the Indo article saying "young people are fighting for their lives in ICU ".

They should have to provide the number and age of those in ICU, otherwise they can make up stories for all we know.

Dr. Bre

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Pubs serving takeaway pints and cafes etc. should pay to have the mess left behind cleaned up. I know they pay rates and so on, but if they even helped the situation they would get much kudos. I know the drinkers are the culprits, but those serving it have a role to play also.

Not judging people for gathering, end of College term and so on, people need to let off steam. The lack of civic pride though is not nice to see.

No they shouldn’t . How about people take some responsibility

MrMusician18

eeepaulo wrote: »

Surely we've had advanced warning of this, I'm not condoning pissing on the street or leaving rubbish but I watched that video of Dublin this morning and every bin was stuffed full of rubbish.

Maybe a few skips and porta toilets? Not to encourage but just to help. Cost a few quid but hey, look at lock down. I'm sure if we put them in strategic places we could control the gatherings to a certain extent.

I'm not sure if I should send shocked Tony a message telling him he better sit down when we reopen every other thing with pent up demand.

Every bin you say:
https://mobile.twitter.com/memeryd/status/1399050179903373317

Dr. Em

Yes, the problem is not meeting up outside with a few friends, even defining 'few' as a generous 'less than ten'. The problem is meeting up with a few friends on a packed street where 50-100 others are gathered together shouting over each other with little space between groups and leaving rubbish all over the place.

odyssey06

Dr. Bre wrote: »

No they shouldn’t . How about people take some responsibility

Including the people generating the waste ie those selling the product and those actually responsible for public bins...

Micky 32

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

And you're ignoring the fact that he was specifically asked about localised lockdowns and gave a straight honest answer.

The nonsense is looking for outrage and spinning it to give yourself something to whine about.

AGAIN, I'll ask. Do you want him to lie about what the policy plan states with regard to local lockdowns? How outraged would you be if he said it would never happen or could never happen and then it became necessary? At least he expressed reservations as to their usefulness.

Will you get over yourself will you. I don’t care if he lies or not to be honest. I have my mind made up how i think all this will end up. RTE ran the headline “ Tanaiste says local lockdowns remain an option” with a huge photo of empty bottles and cans on the streets that’s why i posted it :pac:

You’re the one whining about my post that didn’t suit your narrative.

Jim_Hodge

Micky 32 wrote: »

Will you get over yourself will you. I don’t care if he lies or not to be honest. I have my mind made up how i think all this will end up. RTE ran the headline “ Tanaiste says local lockdowns remain an option” with a huge photo of empty bottles and cans on the streets that’s why i posted it :pac:

You’re the one whining about my post that didn’t suit your narrative.

You seem to have forgotten what you seemed so offended by

I see that Leo and RTE ( main headline on the RTE news app) are waving the wooden spoon threatening local lockdowns

RTE made the headline, RTE asked the question. He threatened nothing. Did you even read beyond the headline? I'm not great fan of his but direct your ire where it's due. I'm tired of people jumping in to throw their tuppence worth at others without taking the full story and circumstances into consideration

RTE deserve your annoyance due to their headline but at least the piece itself was clearer. They put the picture there not Leo.

I'll get over myself for sure but you need to look at what you originally posted. You don't care if he lies or not yet you chastise him for something he didn't say. Laughable.

bucketybuck

Has Tony opened a tout line for Dublin yet? I saw hundreds of people clustered outside a shopping centre today which shocked and concerned me.

Or are those things only for places like Donegal?

irishguy1983

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Also another 250,000 - 300,000 vaccination doses belted out in the last 7 days! Happy days

The way this country is acting, you’d swear there was no vaccine let alone the vulnerable half of the country already vaccinated.

The only country in the world still outraged by people having a drink outside.

CruelSummer

Why can’t this whole fiasco re outdoor meet ups just be organised properly from the outset.

- have a limit on the number of people on a designated outdoor street area at any one time and after a certain time perhaps close off the street until outdoor drinking / dining resumes properly on June 7th?
- provide toilets
- provide loads and loads of bins
- reopen outdoor dining for the June bank Holliday to put some structure on the chaos?

So great to see so many out enjoying the fine weather - it’s so badly needed.

Also one great thing I saw was foresight from a County Council in the West today. Fields opened for parking at a popular beach to deal with overflow from main carpark. Worked brilliantly & was well organised - beach is well able to accommodate 100s or even 1000s at least 2 metres apart.

Micky 32

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You seem to have forgotten what you seemed so offended by



RTE made the headline, RTE asked the question. He threatened nothing. Did you even read beyond the headline? I'm not great fan of his but direct your ire where it's due. I'm tired of people jumping in to throw their tuppence worth at others without taking the full story and circumstances into consideration

RTE deserve your annoyance due to their headline but at least the piece itself was clearer. They put the picture there not Leo.

I'll get over myself for sure but you need to look at what you originally posted. You don't care if he lies or not yet you chastise him for something he didn't say. Laughable.

What absolutely nonsense . I’m not even sure why you’re trying to argue with me to be honest. Maybe you like to hearing about the talk of possible future lockdowns? Am i treading on your freshly planted flowers?

Firstly i’m not a bit offended and where did i chastise anyone? So i’m not sure how you came to that conclusion? I found it funny about these headlines of future lockdowns and fourth waves with photos of empty cans and bottles. It was pure wooden spoon waving :pac:

meeeeh

Klonker wrote: »

Like, the rubbish shouldn't be left there obviously but isn't this what we pay taxes for, so that our streets are cleaned? If people think our young people are more unruly than their European counterparts they're wrong. It's just another case of our public services being below par.

Actually no European counterparts in the part of Europe I'm fron are not just as bad. I never saw anyone throwing their McDonalds stuff through the car window until I moved to Ireland. What's happening at the moment it's absolutely disgusting. I don't care if people meet outside, very few Corona cases seem to result from socialising outside but the litter was left by pigs and you excusing that kind of behavior say a lot about your attitude to clean environment.

I really like living in Ireland but I'm sorry there are some people here with extremely filthy habits and it's sad it is tolerated.

castletownman

Two of the three cafes in town who recently invested in outdoor seating areas were thriving this morning when I walked passed with patrons using the tables outside. The Starbucks next door to work has had seated outdoor customers for a few weeks now too. What's the craic there? Thought they wouldn't be allowed do so until Monday week, although I think it's great to see.

Should have been happening weeks ago though.

Jim_Hodge

castletownman wrote: »

Two of the three cafes in town who recently invested in outdoor seating areas were thriving this morning when I walked passed with patrons using the tables outside. The Starbucks next door to work has had seated outdoor customers for a few weeks now too. What's the craic there? Thought they wouldn't be allowed do so until Monday week, although I think it's great to see.

Should have been happening weeks ago though.

Takeaway coffee once not on the premises.

martingriff

odyssey06 wrote: »

Including the people generating the waste ie those selling the product and those actually responsible for public bins...

I would agree with you if there is a place selling takeaway points there should be bins from the premise around who sells them if you walk away then it is then your litter and you wait until you find a bin to dispose of them

Oscar Bravo

Any idea what them streets are like tonight? weather still good