Eoghan Harris terminated

Jaysci20

One thing Sinn Fein always accuses Denis O'Brien of is taking full advantage of defamation laws and the silencing effect it can have on media, journalists, and others.

Sinn Fein has even recently called for reform of our defamation laws. It is interesting though to see they are chief users of these same laws - one TD paid out 150k last month.

gormdubhgorm

jmcc wrote: »

Seems that a third legal action is being taken against Harris:
https://twitter.com/AllisonMorris1/status/1392438437131833347

Regards...jmcc

It is interesting how she termed it 'women in the media' and not simply 'journalists and others in the media' for example.

It does add more 'bite' to the statement though. That is for sure.

Is this the end

Jaysci20 wrote: »

Even if there was merit in any of those cases which I doubt any objective person will find there is, there's a good chance Harris will be dead before those Sinn Fein-sympathising journalists (or others who feel they are victims) get their money.

Would this be the same Sinn Fein sympathising journalist Aoife Moore who broke the big story regarding the SF asked 2 MLAs to stand aside before anyone else?

The same Aoife Moore on 7 December 2020 had an article with the headline "Aoife Moore: Sinn Féin can't keep playing the victim"

Very sympathetic indeed

gormdubhgorm

Is this the end wrote: »

Would this be the same Sinn Fein sympathising journalist Aoife Moore who broke the big story regarding the SF asked 2 MLAs to stand aside before anyone else?

The same Aoife Moore on 7 December 2020 had an article with the headline "Aoife Moore: Sinn Féin can't keep playing the victim"

Very sympathetic indeed

Aoife Moore is still clearly a SF supporter. I have read a few of her articles and her statements. Her narrative is that she she see's SF as the potential to be focal point of a new Ireland. And should be more progressive etc etc. The past and history that are unpalatable can now be forgotten.

At least that is my take on her line she would like SF to be pro choice - north and south. And likes the fact that female leadership in SF appears to be at the forefront of the party.

Mary Lou leader of the opposition in the Dail - first female to do so. Which Moore was chuffed about and lead to a Harris 'retort' on twitter.

Moore seems to view SF as the potential to be at the vanguard of a creation of a new Ireland etc. And is disappointed in them when they do not meet up to those expectations. Given her family background, age, and where she was brought up etc.

However she has been critical of SF having a dual approach on the pro-choice issue both north and south of the border. Glossing over the less 'murky' issues.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-40245716.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-31009082.html

That at least is my take on the woman's general viewpoints. You can correct me if I am wrong, if I have somehow misinterpreted them

ohnonotgmail

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It is interesting how she termed it 'women in the media' and not simply 'journalists and others in the media' for example.

It does add more 'bite' to the statement though. That is for sure.

Interesting or accurate?

Is this the end

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Aoife Moore is still clearly a SF supporter. I have read a few of her articles and her statements. Her narrative is that she she see's SF as the potential to be focal point of a new Ireland. And should be more progressive etc etc. The past and history that are unpalatable can now be forgotten.

At least that is my take on her line she would like SF to be pro choice - north and south. And likes the fact that female leadership in SF appears to be at the forefront of the party.

Mary Lou leader of the opposition in the Dail - first female to do so. Which Moore was chuffed about and lead to a Harris 'retort' on twitter.

Moore seems to view SF as the potential to be at the vanguard of a creation of a new Ireland etc. And is disappointed in them when they do not meet up to those expectations. Given her family background, age, and where she was brought up etc.

However she has been critical of SF having a dual approach on the pro-choice issue both north and south of the border. Glossing over the less 'murky' issues.





That at least is my take on the woman's general viewpoints. You can correct me if I am wrong, if I have somehow misinterpreted them

Well Aoife now has legal proceedings underway against Mr Harrris so il say no more on this matter only fair play to Aoife for being strong and standing up to this bully.

gormdubhgorm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Interesting or accurate?

I thought it was an interesting way it was put. It gave a clear indication of the line any prosecution of Harris on behalf of the journalist in question was going to take,

Personally I think Harris is a lot more indiscriminate in his attacks, he does so not on the basis of gender. First and foremost for Harris is if an individual is as what he terms a terrorist = even supporter/sympathiser of SF. That is the nub of his myopic view. The 'gender card' seems likes a handy add on which will play well with the millenials.

ohnonotgmail

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I thought it was an interesting way it was put. It gave a clear indication of the line any prosecution of Harris on behalf of the journalist in question was going to take,

Personally I think Harris is a lot more indiscriminate in his attacks, he does so not on the basis of gender. First and foremost for Harris is if an individual is as what he terms a terrorist = even supporter/sympathiser of SF. That is the nub of his myopic view. The 'gender card' seems likes a handy add on which will play well with the millenials.

so just a coincidence then that they are all women?

Odhinn

Jaysci20 wrote: »

One thing Sinn Fein always accuses Denis O'Brien of is taking full advantage of defamation laws and the silencing effect it can have on media, journalists, and others.

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Sinn Fein, the NUJ, various individual journalists (eg vincent browne)......

gormdubhgorm

Is this the end wrote: »

Well Aoife now has legal proceedings underway against Mr Harrris so il say no more on this matter only fair play to Aoife for being strong and standing up to this bully.

She is fair dues to her. But I don't like all the playing to the gallery stuff on twitter etc. That might just be a generational problem on my part. Maybe it is the norm/accepted thing to do.

And no doubt there will be hashtag - 'we stand with Aoife' or similar created and so on?

gormdubhgorm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so just a coincidence then that they are all women?

Another poster about has joust mentioned how Harris destroyed John Hume.

So I would argue yes. Also Paul Larkin also brought a case against Harris.

tipptom

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Aoife Moore is still clearly a SF supporter. I have read a few of her articles and her statements. Her narrative is that she she see's SF as the potential to be focal point of a new Ireland. And should be more progressive etc etc. The past and history that are unpalatable can now be forgotten.

At least that is my take on her line she would like SF to be pro choice - north and south. And likes the fact that female leadership in SF appears to be at the forefront of the party.

Mary Lou leader of the opposition in the Dail - first female to do so. Which Moore was chuffed about and lead to a Harris 'retort' on twitter.

Moore seems to view SF as the potential to be at the vanguard of a creation of a new Ireland etc. And is disappointed in them when they do not meet up to those expectations. Given her family background, age, and where she was brought up etc.

However she has been critical of SF having a dual approach on the pro-choice issue both north and south of the border. Glossing over the less 'murky' issues.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-40245716.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-31009082.html

That at least is my take on the woman's general viewpoints. You can correct me if I am wrong, if I have somehow misinterpreted them

You seem to have worked yourself into a right lather that a WOMAN journalist would see the first WOMAN in the history of the state to become "leader of the opposition" a groundbreaking positive.

ohnonotgmail

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Another poster about has joust mentioned how Harris destroyed John Hume.

So I would argue yes. Also Paul Larkin also brought a case against Harris.

this thread is about him creating sock puppets to harass people on social media anonymously. I don't remember him doing that in the other cases you mentioned.

gormdubhgorm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

this thread is about him creating sock puppets to harass people on social media anonymously. I don't remember him doing that in the other cases you mentioned.

See below

https://krw-law.ie/statement-paul-larkin/

Gender is no barrier for the Pym/Harris account attacks clearly.

But that does not seem to be the narrative some people have moved on to now, and are running with it.

gormdubhgorm

tipptom wrote: »

You seem to have worked yourself into a right lather that a WOMAN journalist would see the first WOMAN in the history of the state to become "leader of the opposition" a groundbreaking positive.

No at all I merely pointing out Moores viewpoints as I see them.


Such as

Where she was clearly delighted at SF success in the 2020 GE and played down the less palatable aspects of history.

Or have read the tone wrong?

You tell me.


And have correlated that to a new narrative that seems to be developing.

'Harris the mysonginst one who only picks on women.'

But he picks on everyone he sees as a 'legitimate target' in his own warped mind.

ohnonotgmail

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

See below

https://krw-law.ie/statement-paul-larkin/

Gender is no barrier for the Pym/Harris account attacks clearly.

But that does not seem to be the narrative some people have moved on to now, and are running with it.

fair point, well made. Harris is an equal opportunities arsehole then.

gormdubhgorm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

fair point, well made. Harris is an equal opportunities arsehole then.

You put it far better than I did though! And more concisely.

gormdubhgorm

There is blow by blow account on wikipedia at this stage, for those who want to recap how the events occurred and what was said etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eoghan_Harris_Twitter_scandal

I assume it will be updated as the story gains legs and develops.

Cilldara_2000

Can't we just have an Aoife Moore thread for gdg so he can bore off out of this one please?

Jaysci20

I'm glad we've all accepted that the sexualised misogynistic charge was nonsense, and that the politically robust and sometimes tough messages Harris sent were gender-blind.

iffandonlyif

tipptom wrote: »

You seem to have worked yourself into a right lather that a WOMAN journalist would see the first WOMAN in the history of the state to become "leader of the opposition" a groundbreaking positive.

It's ridiculous interpretations like this that give me confidence that much of the jubilant reaction to Harris's downfall is from zealots.

tipptom

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

No at all I merely pointing out Moores viewpoints as I see them.


Such as

Where she was clearly delighted at SF success in the 2020 GE and played down the less palatable aspects of history.

Or have read the tone wrong?

You tell me.


And have correlated that to a new narrative that seems to be developing.

'Harris the mysonginst one who only picks on women.'

But he picks on everyone he sees as a 'legitimate target' in his own warped mind.

You see FF/FG journalist cheerleaders every other election since the state was founded clearly delighted at their success and no mention of their less than palatable aspects of their history.

Jaysci20

Jaysci20 wrote: »

One thing Sinn Fein always accuses Denis O'Brien of is taking full advantage of defamation laws and the silencing effect it can have on media, journalists, and others.

Sinn Fein has even recently called for reform of our defamation laws. It is interesting though to see they are chief users of these same laws - one TD paid out 150k last month.

He was literally just abusing journalists on social media under multiple different accounts... He was not exposing anything or doing some greater public good...

ohnonotgmail

Jaysci20 wrote: »

I'm glad we've all accepted that the sexualised misogynistic charge was nonsense, and that the politically robust and sometimes tough messages Harris sent were gender-blind.

so why did he not send them under his own name if that is all they were?

Dyr

Jaysci20 wrote: »

I'm glad we've all accepted that the sexualised misogynistic charge was nonsense, and that the politically robust and sometimes tough messages Harris sent were gender-blind.

Whos "we" paleface?

Don't tell me that you have multiple personalities :eek:

iffandonlyif

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

There is blow by blow account on wikipedia at this stage, for those who want to recap how the events occurred and what was said etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eoghan_Harris_Twitter_scandal

I assume it will be updated as the story gains legs and develops.

Quite obviously started by someone with an agendy. If the Bobby Storey funeral controversy doesn't have one, in no way could this controversy be said to deserve a wikipedia page.

jmcc

iffandonlyif wrote: »

It's ridiculous interpretations like this that give me confidence that much of the jubilant reaction to Harris's downfall is from zealots.

The Zealots were a first century AD Jewish political movement who wanted to remove the Roman Empire from Israel. Are you saying that Harris would have been on the side of the Roman Empire as well?

Regards...jmcc

Is this the end

iffandonlyif wrote: »

Quite obviously started by someone with an agendy. If the Bobby Storey funeral controversy doesn't have one, in no way could this controversy be said to deserve a wikipedia page.

Ive heard it all now, your saying if what Eoghan Harris did has a wikipedia page, the Boby Storey funeral should have one.

Bottom of the barrell

Jaysci20

Is this the end wrote: »

Ive heard it all now, your saying if what Eoghan Harris did has a wikipedia page, the Boby Storey funeral should have one.

Bottom of the barrell

The Sinn Fein bot farms in Serbia don't have any political interest in creating a Bobby Storey funeral wikipedia page.

gormdubhgorm

Jaysci20 wrote: »

I'm glad we've all accepted that the sexualised misogynistic charge was nonsense, and that the politically robust and sometimes tough messages Harris sent were gender-blind.

'politically robust'

I am not sure even you yourself, believe that one. That is up there with some of creative ways a SF TD or supporter uses the English language at times!

'Politically robust' - be honest he was on the wind up with about 6 others using that account.

To the extent that many of those targeted by Harris have sought legal action.
They would not be bothered with legal action if they did not think they stand a chance of some form of redress.

Also id you listened to Harris's interview with McInerney, what started out as an apparent 'political robust' defence quickly descending into a conspiratorial rant that SF and RTE were in cahoots and had it in for him.

Which was laughable altogether given McInerney's background alone never mind the recent history of RTE v SF.