Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

brevity · 18-07-2023 7:21pm

Imagine the mmmmmeltdown if we sell Diaz and buy Doucoure and Lavia and pack it up for the summer.

Widdensushi · 18-07-2023 8:07pm

He ain't going anywhere,Salah will be missing in January again also.

Riesen_Meal · 18-07-2023 8:16pm

No chance of the Diaz to Saudi, definitely not this season anyway, they would want to offer mental money and no one could fill his boots at this stage...

We still need Fab and Hendo replacements yet...

TitianGerm · 18-07-2023 10:19pm

Joyce has an article in The Times about the Diaz bid. Apparently they have bid €50m, an absolutely pathetic offer.

The only way I'd consider selling Diaz if they offered £150m+. Make the f**kers pay through the nose.

Edit: if you got £200m for Diaz and Fabhino then I'd go pay the release clause for Garvidol and get Luis or whatever top class DM is available. Then use the remaining budget for Barella or Chiesa depending on whether you think you need a midfielder or forward more.

Damien360 · 18-07-2023 10:21pm

Is this an attempt to start the super League? Hold all the talent and leave the big traditional clubs behind ? Might take a few more years.

theoneeyedman · 18-07-2023 10:31pm

Was e ruined someplace they were looking to get into bed with Uefa, with a view to getting teams into the Champions League. Dunno if there is anything to it, but everyone has a price, especially Uefa...

Riesen_Meal · 18-07-2023 10:35pm

The rumors about Sangaré are correct. Liverpool are waiting for Fabinho to leave and they think they can get Sangaré with that money. There is contact between Liverpool and Kiki Musampa (his agent). May also explain why Sangare has held off other Premier League clubs who I believe cannot be ruled out. I expect everything to accelerate in the next 10 days.

Sangaré has a £32.5 million release clause.

Latest Fabinho replacement on Reddit

Reunite him and Cody

Smoke and mirrors with the other journos if this source is reliable...

machiavellianme · 18-07-2023 10:49pm

If he only costs 32.5M in today's market, buy him anyway. We need someone half decent whether Fab stays or goes.

SuperTortoise · 18-07-2023 10:56pm

Where did the Thuram rumours go to? At one stage it sounded like we were interested and then nothing, was it all just bullshit?

~Rebel~ · 18-07-2023 11:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868976#Comment_120868976

Some of the word was that they were looking at him as more of an 8, where he's started playing more for his club - but then the Szobo deadline caused that move to be escalated, and they picked him over Thuram. Makes sense, as those links died the second we signed Szobo.

atilladehun · 18-07-2023 11:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868861#Comment_120868861

Definitely something along those lines afoot. Buying leverage.

~Rebel~ · 18-07-2023 11:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868902#Comment_120868902

Yeah, I'd be surprised if they're not in the Champions League within the next 2 or so years. think UEFA would be only too eager to get their cash in, and there's already precedent for non-European teams to play in the CL anyway, like our own Robbie Keane's Maccabi Tel Aviv.

Could see those 4 teams directly owned by Saudi as being a little imposter cluster to get into the CL, which will help them attract more players and grow their quality and brand, and then likely become a big part of leading a new breakaway Superleague project that's more Saudi focused.

Talisman · 19-07-2023 6:44am

In 2018, Klopp originally wanted to sign Leon Goretzka for the midfield. The player chose to join Bayern on a free transfer and Liverpool signed Fabinho. Now there may be an opportunity to get Goretzka (28) to replace Fabinho.

Tuchel wants to replace Goretzka and West Ham have made an approach which the player has rejected. Bayern are reported to want €40-50M (£35-43M, which is in the same region as the valuation of Fabinho.

https://twitter.com/plettigoal/status/1681035840452018176

Joshua Kimmich (28) is also reported to be available for transfer. He could also deputise for TAA at right back. 😂

TitianGerm · 19-07-2023 7:27am

Carvahlo scored in Leipzigs preseason game last night.

Electric Nitwit · 19-07-2023 10:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120869367#Comment_120869367

So did Sadio for Bayern. 90th minute goal in a 27-0 win 😳🤣

martyos121 · 19-07-2023 10:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120869332#Comment_120869332

Jesus, Kimmich would be a dream signing. Can’t understand why they’re willing to let him go but then again, Bayern have a knack for ditching world class midfielders at the right time (Schweinsteiger, Thiago, Vidal).

I don’t think they wanted to let Kroos go but he’d be the obvious exception, no club can resist an approach from Real Madrid.

dogbert27 · 19-07-2023 11:30am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120869790#Comment_120869790

I think Kimmich could be sold due to his outspoken support of Naglesman after his sacking and a power play by Tuchel to control the dressing room.

Fitz* · 19-07-2023 1:15pm

Some links to Cheick Doucouré emerging today. Crystal Palace player of the year in the season just gone, but to be totally honest I can't remember him playing in any games apart from our own. Maybe that's a good thing, quietly going about his business efficiently as a holding midfielder. 23 years of age but has 3 seasons of playing 35+ games in a top 5 league under his belt now.

That shortlist for the DM position is getting longer!

BorneTobyWilde · 19-07-2023 1:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868911#Comment_120868911

''Sangaré has a £32.5 million release clause.''' One hell of a coincidence, the player we want above all others has a 32.5m release clause, we're so so lucky when it comes to release clauses, all the player we want above all others have them. 🙏

~Rebel~ · 19-07-2023 1:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120870549#Comment_120870549

Ha, I know what you’re getting at, but I think outside the PL release clauses have become pretty standard practice. So while most of the players we’re looking at have them, most of the ones we’re not looking at have them too.

BorneTobyWilde · 19-07-2023 1:43pm

Diaz '' so far '' is Keita 2.0 .This season is huge for him, but if it's another season of being out injured then someone has to call it, we need a 20 goal machine on the left, not a player who has 8 in his whole time at Liverpool.

Our form did improve when he came back from injury last season, so you'd have to hold firm and give him his chance this season, no sale !

dogbert27 · 19-07-2023 1:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120870606#Comment_120870606

For Christ sake he's not Keita 2.0.

He got a knee injury in a game and had a set back trying to return in training.

Before his injury he had 4 goals and 3 assists in 12 games and was arguably our best player in those 12 games.

Keita would injure himself opening a bag a crisps.

mosstin · 19-07-2023 2:44pm

In fairness to Keita, it was popcorn.

rob316 · 19-07-2023 3:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120869332#Comment_120869332

You can be absolutely sure we arent signing someone 28 for midfield even with our experience heading off.

Fitz* · 19-07-2023 3:21pm

Henderson not playing the friendly today, because of his transfer to Saudi Arabia.

Riesen_Meal · 19-07-2023 3:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871164#Comment_120871164

Better win 28-0 to keep Bayern on their toes...

martyos121 · 19-07-2023 4:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871310#Comment_120871310

This is probably the best sentence I’ve ever read in all of journalism:

”It was 18-0 at half-time before amateur side Rottach-Egern limited Bayern to nine goals after the break.”

Fitz* · 19-07-2023 5:46pm

Trent playing as the 6 in the midfield.

martyos121 · 19-07-2023 5:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871741#Comment_120871741

Selling our only two midfielders who play can play as a number 6, so Klopp plays our number 66 there instead to cover for both.

He’s playing 4D chess.

Fitz* · 19-07-2023 5:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871772#Comment_120871772

The number 84 Conor Bradley has been popping up as an inverted midfielder at times too - perhaps as homage to the more traditional centre midfielder numbers of 8 & 4.

SeamusAFA · 19-07-2023 5:58pm

Formation doesn't look anymore defensively sound than last season.

I know it's only first match pre season.

antimatterx · 19-07-2023 6:10pm

Henderson done. £12m + add ons.

noodler · 19-07-2023 6:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871844#Comment_120871844

Really silly.

He is worth so much more than that to us.

martyos121 · 19-07-2023 6:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871844#Comment_120871844

Unless those add-ons involve 300,000 barrels of their finest oil, we’re getting ripped off.

jones · 19-07-2023 6:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871844#Comment_120871844

It's such an odd move I'm still not sure how I feel about it. Really thought he'd be a bit part player this season but to leave and go Saudi was not.... expected. 😄

If we reinvest in good players it's great he was clearly on his way down as is fab.

So fab and Hendo go - who are we signing?

Augme · 19-07-2023 6:26pm

Very disappointed with the news of this transfer on so many levels.

SuperTortoise · 19-07-2023 6:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871844#Comment_120871844

We've been robbed.

Electric Nitwit · 19-07-2023 6:29pm

12m is a joke. Just so disappointing all round

Vicxas · 19-07-2023 6:33pm

They better have people lined up if they're letting Fab and Hendo go. Madness otherwise.

martyos121 · 19-07-2023 6:34pm

Any fewer than two more midfield signings will be unacceptable now that Hendo’s gone.

Unless Mbappé can play as a very attacking number 6.

Luxembourgo · 19-07-2023 6:37pm

Honestly pretty happy with Henderson going

Don't see where he fits in the team at all next year. He's a player who relied massively in his physicality which will only start declining and he's no Milner.

Mr Crispy · 19-07-2023 6:37pm

Gutted on so many levels.

Damien360 · 19-07-2023 6:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871930#Comment_120871930

I'm inclined to agree with you but £12m is peanuts, especially from the new Saudi league. We should have got twice that.

LuckyLloyd · 19-07-2023 6:56pm

I think we may have to accept a period outside the CL. And by the time we are ready to go back in, the fabric of football may have changed further. End of an era, a **** fabulous era.

giveitholly · 19-07-2023 7:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871993#Comment_120871993

Do u honestly think keeping Henderson and Fabinho would nearly guarantee champions league next season. They are the reason we didn't get it last season with their poor form. Both players are in serious decline so now is the time to move them on. Exciting times ahead

~Rebel~ · 19-07-2023 7:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871931#Comment_120871931

Same exactly. A real downer as a Liverpool story, a football story, and a broadly general life story.

LuckyLloyd · 19-07-2023 7:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120872018#Comment_120872018

The 2022 team is being broken up

Mane

Gini

Origi

Milner

Henderson

Fab

Keita

Bobby

Ox

Virgil has been creaking, Thiago is older again and injury prone, Salah another year older too

What are you excited about, exactly? I’m not saying we’re going to collapse to dust, but a full on rebuild is underway now. And Utd are about to be bought by a wall of money; City and Newcastle are inevitable; and Arsenal have come through the other side of their long sallow period.

People are fooling themselves a bit if they don’t see a long hard period ahead.

It’s not about keeping any of these players as the right decision, more that we are letting a lot of proven winners walk out the door and we don’t have the means to replace them. We are regressing quite sharply and obviously.

giveitholly · 19-07-2023 7:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120872048#Comment_120872048

But the 2022 team was on its last legs and needed to be broken up and a rebuild is needed. Granted it should of started at least last summer. We have Allison,Konate Gakpo,Diaz,still plenty of years left in Salah. Hopefully Nunez hits the ground running as well.

Two new exciting signings already for midfield. Let's see who they get to replace Fab and Hendo first before we throw the towel in

noodler · 19-07-2023 7:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120872018#Comment_120872018

Interesting strawman.

Do I think keeping Henderson increases the chances of CL? Yes, I absolutely do.

Blaming Fabinho and Hendo for no CL last season is ridiculously simplistic. Our new attacking options didn't gel, the defense creaked and we just didn't have the bodies in midfield.

Incredible how having both Hendo and Fab in 2022 guaranteed got us two trophies, a CL final and 2nd place in the league but a year later you can't see any redeeming reason to keep them.

Anyway. We need 2 or 3 midfielders now and then Klopp needs to integrate them.

tinpib · 19-07-2023 7:23pm

Hendo a massive loss becuase of his experience, leadership, presence. Perfect for coming on on 60/75 minutes. The thing is, with FSG's track record there is no guarantee they will buy more players. They've done it/not done it before. As others have said a minimum of 2 is logical but we could skimp and just buy 1, assuming Fab is off as well. And there is a defo a non-zero chance we dont buy any, and Juergen is wheeled out to say to the press he is happy with a smaller squad.

So let's see what happens and cross our fingers that sensible signings are made.

Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

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