Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

SuperTortoise · 05-09-2023 9:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074277#Comment_121074277

Hazard was finished when he left Chelsea you could see it in him. Real got robbed.

BorneTobyWilde · 05-09-2023 10:02pm

Salah out, Rafael Leão in , would be acceptable to me. AC Milan have debt problems, a 150m bid gets it done, his new contract only pays him €123,000 per week, must have felt like a lot when he signed it, not so much now, we'd pay him more than that.

Girly Gal · 05-09-2023 10:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074237#Comment_121074237

Injuries are a risk to any player, I'd imagine FSG have weighted up all possible scenarios and what they'd be willing to let him go for this window, in January or next summer ( all likely to be different), the cost of replacing him depending on what window he leaves in, the possible outcomes like missing out on CL if selling in this window etc., if the Saudis meet FSG's valuations, then it's likely he'll be sold. I'd imagine they probably have decided not to sell this window unless the Saudis offer a ridiculous amount like 300 million, even then I'd prefer if he stayed until January when we could at least get a replacement in.

atilladehun · 05-09-2023 10:15pm

In a kind of serious way I think we should get a message out there that we would take a ridiculous offer like $1 or $2 billion. The saudis are throwing money at sports and can afford it. They're doing it for prestige and ego. They'd love to blow the world open like this.

They're trying to corner Liverpool with a bid that is pennies to them. We should counter them with a corner move that actually helps the club. £200 does not really help us.

Damien360 · 05-09-2023 10:21pm

We can't get a replacement until January at the earliest. Funnily enough, he will be gone to Afcon for all of January and part of February. If we accept the bid, we have to hold him until January. Who cares if their transfer window is still open.

Fitz* · 05-09-2023 10:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074309#Comment_121074309

Yeah another right footed left winger is just what we need to replace Salah!

~Rebel~ · 05-09-2023 10:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074309#Comment_121074309

So far most of the suggestions aren't replacements for Mo, they're replacements for Diaz/Jota/Gakpo/Nunez. Leao has played pretty much exclusively on the left wing, so would leave us even more packed on the left, and still threadbare on the right.

The best option really would be Saka - we'd never get him off Arsenal, but he's about the only RWF I can think of fit to lace Mo's boots. Otherwise, looking at maybe taking Raphina off Barca, or maybe lads like Moussa Diaby or Bakayoko depending on how they develop, but they're still very untested yet.

BorneTobyWilde · 05-09-2023 10:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074454#Comment_121074454

No such thing as another Salah, any pro should be able to play with both feet.

Widdensushi · 05-09-2023 11:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074503#Comment_121074503

Sako would be the dream, unfortunately unattainable.

atilladehun · 05-09-2023 11:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074539#Comment_121074539

Especially against the best defenders in the world.

~Rebel~ · 05-09-2023 11:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074539#Comment_121074539

Unfortunately the reality is that most can't though. Even when players can use both feet reasonably usefully, the positional aspect is just a different thing. Look at Jota or Diaz when they've played on the right for us - anonymous. A fraction of what they look like in their chief positions. When your whole game is built around doing something specific - like Kvaratskhelia and Leao's are - it usually doesn't translate when you suddenly upend it entirely.

BorneTobyWilde · 05-09-2023 11:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074565#Comment_121074565

The likes of Messi and Salah are rarities , but both have a higher goal scoring percent with their right foot. Salah is more efficient with his right, of course stats means nothing, they could be the tap ins where it was just a case of making contact.

It's impossible to replace Salah, as that quality in a left footer doesn't exist

Ikozma · 05-09-2023 11:35pm

We can't sell mo now,they are obviously desperate to get him so they will pay those sums again nxt season.

Let's do all we can to keep him this season so he can get us back into champions lge and get the send off he deserves on the last day

BorneTobyWilde · 05-09-2023 11:40pm

It's funny that all the greatest left footed players that have ever player for Liverpool, played on the left, except Salah, who plays on the right. Same goes for right foot players, all the best played on the right.

John Barnes today would have to play right I guess.

~Rebel~ · 05-09-2023 11:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074592#Comment_121074592

They don't need to necessarily be a left footer - but they should ideally be someone who actually already plays on the right wing. We should ideally be buying someone to continue doing what they're good at with us, instead of paying a fortune and then trying to transform someone's game to something completely different.

Kvaratskhelia and Leao are left wingers. That's where they play, and that's where they're proven. I don't have a problem with going for a right winger who is right footed, provided they're good right wingers who can still come inside and score goals (peak Gnabry for instance - right footer who played exceptionally well on the right wing and scored plenty - he's dropped off of late though).

Widdensushi · 06-09-2023 2:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074297#Comment_121074297

You could have saved them alot of money...

noodler · 06-09-2023 7:56am

So many of our goals are from Mo or Mo assists these days. Hard to imagine him not being here.

The Rooster · 06-09-2023 7:59am

Jarrod Bowen was top of the Edwards/Klopp list if Salah had not signed his last contract. While Edwards is gone, I think he'd still be up there. Works really hard, good finisher and would undoubtedly improve playing alongside Liverpool players week in week out. Quality wise, of course it's not like for like, but Diaz, Nunez, Gakpo, Jota, Bowen and then Doak would still be a top class front line and bench.

Plus it would leave us with change, which will be badly needed over the next 6-18 months as we completely rebuild our defence.

Unless Mbappe decides to choose Liverpool over Madrid next summer, as reported in L'Equipe this morning, but I don't think anyone believes that!

happyoutscan · 06-09-2023 8:00am

250 minimum.

Even an that, I think I'd be happier to hold him for a couple of years and get 100m.

facehugger99 · 06-09-2023 8:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074939#Comment_121074939

Why would we get €100m in a couple of years given he'll be out of contract?

Girly Gal · 06-09-2023 8:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074949#Comment_121074949

Was thinking that too, I think some people just don't understand how football contracts work.

The Rooster · 06-09-2023 8:18am

Quansah pulls out of England U20 squad. I'd imagine as a precaution in case Konate doesn't recover as quickly as hoped and Virge gets extra ban (anyone know when that hearing takes place, or has it already happened?).

antimatterx · 06-09-2023 8:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074936#Comment_121074936

Bowen is class

facehugger99 · 06-09-2023 9:01am

Anyone who thinks we get £200m for Salah next summer is living in dreamland - The Saudis want him for the Club Word Cup in December and are willing to pay a premium for that. It'd be more like £80m next year at most.

Personally I'd rather he stays for 2 years and leaves on a free.

JimboJones99 · 06-09-2023 9:18am

Jesus, this Salah talk is really annoying me. Are you even a real football fan, let alone a Liverpool one, if you think Salah should be be sold now? To me it seems that some people here are more interested in playing football manager than wanting what is best for the team. Who cares if we only get €80m for him next summer rather than €200m now? It would severely weaken the team and potentially wreck our season even at this early stage. Call me old fashioned but I am much more interested in having the team competing for trophies than making sure we maximise the value of our asset.

I have seen some nonsense in the last few pages; we should sell him because he is no longer an elite player even though his stats will continue to be good; we should sell him in case his knee blows up, we should sell him because some Portuguese player in Italy looks good and we can blow 150m on him.

I'm definitely going to sound old fashioned now but the old phrase of "one bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" springs to mind. I wouldnt blame Salah for wanting to leave because it seems he will never be appreciated enough. The man has never left us down both on and off the pitch and now some people want to see him leave at a time when we cant replace him just so we can act like Todd Boehly for a little while. Ridiculous. Remember when we sold Suarez and went on a spending spree afterwards with our pot of gold? How did that work out? Be careful what you wish for

Electric Nitwit · 06-09-2023 9:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121075130#Comment_121075130

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strawdog · 06-09-2023 10:15am

Even if you were to look at it purely financially, think the minimum amount of cash a season in the CL is going to bring is somewhere in the region of 50m provided you get out of the group, which we invariably do, even when weak.

This should be subtracted from the sums on any transfer given we are strong contenders for CL spot with Mo, and strong outsiders without him, nevermind the other knock on losses of revenue from losing your best player

x43r0 · 06-09-2023 10:17am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074539#Comment_121074539

Let me know when Andy Robertson's right foot turns up

Girly Gal · 06-09-2023 10:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121075350#Comment_121075350

Add to that, we'd be held to ransom when buying any player after selling Salah, so while 200m sounds like crazy money for him, when you break it all down- potential loss of CL revenue, inflation of buying players after Salah sale, effect on the team performance - we'd be better off keeping him than selling, even if we do eventually let him go for free.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-09-2023 10:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074984#Comment_121074984

Nothing set. But our next three games are Wolves, West Ham (Home) and Leicester in the cup (also home) so I'm not overly worried if he gets a few extra games. He'll still be available for the Europa, so he can stay relatively match-fit and competitive.

noodler · 06-09-2023 11:53am

Does anyone actually advocate selling him right now?

There's obviously an argument about whether we'd get the same fee next summer but is a lower fee next year making some ppl want to sell now?

BorneTobyWilde · 06-09-2023 1:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121075720#Comment_121075720

I'd sell if he wanted to go, I'd not accept the bid knowing he was committed to Liverpool, Salah needs to break his silence, tell the world, like Mbappe did, he does not want to move to Saudi Arabia

~Rebel~ · 06-09-2023 1:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076305#Comment_121076305

As long as he tells the club, that’s more than enough.

Infoseeker1975 · 06-09-2023 2:30pm

Salah will be elite level for 3-4 years, I hope he stays for all of that time and gets to 3rd on the all time goalscorer list for us.

Our owners are more likely to increase the capacity again if Salah is sold for huge money.

No one says no to the Saudi's so they will offer whatever we want next summer; money is not relevant to them as seen in their pursuit of taking over golf.

Girly Gal · 06-09-2023 2:42pm

We should be looking to extend his contract, hold onto him until summer 25 and then we can look at selling him, at that stage we should have our rebuild done, so only Salah to replace, which we would have to do regardless of the Saudi interest. Plus if we can get him to extend his contract it'll at least kill off the speculation for this season.

LuckyLloyd · 06-09-2023 3:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121075720#Comment_121075720

My only view on this is that if Salah wants to go we should let him go in the context of the fee that has been discussed

If Salah is okay to stay then we should reject it.

noodler · 06-09-2023 3:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076319#Comment_121076319

Yup, as long as he doesn't tell the world he wants to leave then in satisfied.

Is their window only open another 2 days?

~Rebel~ · 06-09-2023 3:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076895#Comment_121076895

Yeah, closes tomorrow night - though of course that's their own league's self imposed window, so presumably they can just break their own rule if they feel like it 😕

K-9 · 06-09-2023 4:33pm

I'd read somewhere that FIFA had their deadline down as the 20th or something like that. The Saudi's have it as tomorrow. Don't know if that was cleared up.

happyoutscan · 06-09-2023 4:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074949#Comment_121074949

I should have been clearer. Tie him - if possible - to another contract then... ^

Widdensushi · 06-09-2023 4:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121077265#Comment_121077265

Why would he sign another contract?

giveitholly · 06-09-2023 4:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121077278#Comment_121077278

Maybe he might want to stay with Liverpool?

Augme · 06-09-2023 4:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121075130#Comment_121075130

Keet he knickers on, no one has said Salah should be sold this summer.

happyoutscan · 06-09-2023 5:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121077278#Comment_121077278

Improved terms. Perhaps he doesn't want Saudi until he's 34/35. Who knows. Just throwing that out there.

rob316 · 06-09-2023 5:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076888#Comment_121076888

He has 2 years on his contract why would we let him go? The fee isn't enough to replace him and if we don't finish in the Top 4 its worth even less.

Enzokk · 06-09-2023 5:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121077254#Comment_121077254

It is up to every league to decide when it closes or not, there is no official window as such. The Premier League decided a few years ago to close their before the other leagues in Europe and it was a disaster, so it just makes sense to make it all as one so clubs aren't in a position where they lose a player and have no recourse to replace him.

The 2 dates given for the Saudi League was as you noted the 20th but I think their league confirmed it was the 7th. Makes no sense to keep your open if no teams will sell their players to you if they cannot sign replacements, that may be why they moved it up to the 7th. They can always decide to move it to the 10th is they think it is in their interest.

Captain_Crash · 06-09-2023 6:21pm

I said it earlier in the thread and I still think it’s the best for everyone, keep him and let him go free in 2 years. He’ll get a better salary by virtue of there being no transfer fee and we get him for 2 more years. It’s a win for everyone! I’d take that now if it was offered.