Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

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Enzokk

I also find it a little hard to understand the uproar about the season ticket price rises. If you explain to me why something happens and I find it credible then I easily accept it. Costs have gone up in regards to opening the stadium for matches, i.e. salaries and other costs due to inflation. I bet you if the club decided to not give higher payment to stewards or those working at the club during matchdays these same jokers would be up in arms that they club should pay people properly.

Basically my problem with these type of protests, they hurt the team on the field when what they are protesting is not justified. I see Jay McKenna had a thread trying to justify it by saying that because there are numerous foodbanks in use the price rise should not happen. That is conflating 2 issues to try and justify their decision. The only people they are representing with this are the season ticket holders and they are a minority when you look at the club as a whole. An important part, but not the whole of the supporters.

decies

I know it’s a timing issue on both side of the argument but maybe not the best to be having a protest in a massive few weeks for the club . Klopp doesn’t need distractions of this in a presser conference the players themselves don’t need it either. Hoping for tie defining result tonight coupled with some changes . Lot lot at stake now going forward .

decies

15 ambulances and 4 a+e are on standby later as he cuts the cake

noodler

I can't see us absolutely battering Atalanta (not without Jota and a Salah on top form).

A 2/3 goal lead would take so much pressure off the return tie for sure but just can't see it going that way.

I hope I've jinxed it

boosabum

With respect to ticket price increases, there is a sense that prices are already over inflated and add a low percentage on is still excessive. In the grand scheme, club won't make much extra but it's seen as the ever eroding nature against the customer as opposed the life long fan. For people making one or two trips over a year, it's insignificant. For season ticket holders it's just more and more expensive upon them that compound's bad kick off times for away games as well as travel difficulties.

Osmosis Jones

Losing it that they've posted this as a highlight when it's just a clip of Diaz being fouled and the ref ignoring it 😆

https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1778005791582179548?t=BarGb7jiFwbMArtdagNp1Q&s=19

noodler

I was furious looking at that but I was furious for most of the game.

On what planet do you get to grip someone's torso like that with both hands if you aren't about to go for a cheeky score?

steve_r

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122004125#Comment_122004125

It's interesting to see the conversation on Reddit where the likes of SOS are described as more of a season ticket holders union rather than a supporters group.

It brings up that "local fan" vs "foreign fan" debate and I always feel that there is an element of the locals looking down their noses at the people traveling to see the matches. There's also an element of gouging that goes on with the resale of tickets, and that money doesn't go to the club.

I'd love to go to more games, but the reality is that its a challenge to get tickets in the first place, and then the other option is an expensive hospitality ticket.

McFly85

For PL clubs that have no problem selling out matches, are season tickets even a good model anymore?

There’s plenty of lads in Liverpool that have multiple season tickets and have been selling them off for games as a handy earner(don’t know if this is still possible tbh).

There’s also the other issues it causes, having an ageing crowd take the seats, stopping young lads from getting to go see their team.

There’s probably no perfect model but allowing everyone to just bid for home games from their LFC account, with some priority for locals, and big matches having additional priority for people who’ve bought most tickets that season would at least give people a better chance, make the crowd more varied and reduce touting.

I would imagine there’d be huge pushback from supporters clubs about it not being a local enterprise anymore, but could be better for the club in the long run.

Fitz*

A lot of season ticket holders being the actual touts is a massive elephant in the room when it comes to ticketing at Anfield.

When a member sells their ticket back to the club for re-sale or forwards it onto their friend, they lose that credit for that game. When a season ticket holder distributes a ticket back to the club for re-sale or forwards it onto their friend, they don't have any repercussions regarding credits etc.

It's becoming a closed shop with the larger number of 13+ credits nowadays and the difficulty in getting past the 4+ credit stage so you're reset at 0. The bots are scraping up any remaining tickets that are sent back to the club, and/or in the additional sales held closer to the game. I suspect that a lot of people are creating new accounts in each sale, for one game only, just so that they gain the ability to buy a ticket from someone selling (maybe a friend of a friend with excess credits) and then forwarding that ticket (and credit) back to their own main account to gain the credits and race up the ladder to 4/7/13 credits and thus locking others out of sales, but keeping themselves in.

My credits from this season will count towards nothing next season, but someone who has created 5 new accounts in the last month alone will jump ahead of me in 2 ballots next season.

steve_r

There's a massive demand for a small supply there's a big economic benefit for people who can resell Season tickets.

It seems to be far easier for the likes of United fans/others to get tickets

Electric Nitwit

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https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1778401209692414452?t=JIrnTxjpTLOj1ReKmK62CA&s=19

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garra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122003076#Comment_122003076

A club exists for the benefit of its members, not for the enrichment of investors.

paulie21

Kelleher

Gomez Konate VVD Tsimikas

Endo Mac Jones

Elliott Gakpo Nunez

Tonight's rumoured lineup

Enzokk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122005420#Comment_122005420

I agree, but who are the members and how much should the club be tailored to them? We can go down the rabbit hole of who and what is important, but the facts are the current Liverpool owners are not taking money out of the club as far as I know and the club itself made a loss of £9m on the last accounts.

SOS and the other fan unions can shout about a 2% increase, but half of the membership had a meltdown when they thought we would not be challenging this year and we were not spending enough. They will say the owners needs to put their hands in their pockets and put their money where their mouths are, and I could say the same to them when it comes to paying for their tickets. Record revenues and we are still losing money seems like a problem, right?

What I find interesting in this debate is that fans will use other clubs as a stick to beat our owners with. So when this is discussed Tottenham removing the senior discount and City recording record profits but putting up prices by 5% to 11% is somehow justification for opposing our clubs 2% increase. They have said why they are increasing prices, operating costs have gone up and prices need to go up. I don't like it, but I understand it.

noodler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122005420#Comment_122005420

At the very least when the match revenue is such a relatively small component as Rebel said

Electric Nitwit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122005863#Comment_122005863

I thought that too, but I went and had a quick look

Matchday revenue for 22/23 was 80m, 13.5% of the total. That year we made a loss of 9m. Add 2% to the matchday revenue and that becomes a profit of 7m... Edit: no no no, brainfart, thanks TitianGerm 🤣

So it's not quite as insignificant as I (and I'm guessing you) first assumed

I think 2% is a pretty fair rise, especially after they froze prices for 5 years before last year. I do understand people being annoyed, but I don't personally see it as worth protesting over

Electric Nitwit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122004917#Comment_122004917

Yeah, the ticket allocation for members encourages a secondary market, albeit usually within a certain group. I've a friend with 13+ who buys every ticket but he only goes to a handful himself. I'm lucky that I benefit from this, there's half a dozen or so of us that spilt them. I know I'm being hypocritical, but I think what he does is wrong, but the system means there's no way for him to drop down to only buying for the matches he attends

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122005895#Comment_122005895

2% of 80m is 1.2m. So we'd have made a loss of 7.8m instead of 9m.

rob316

On the ticket prices its only 2% but the reverse of that is whats 2% of maybe a 100m for the club?

I dont agree with Spion Kop stance tonight but again I'm not a local match going fan so won't be passing judgement.

Electric Nitwit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122005996#Comment_122005996

Yep, you're right! Wow, that was some horrific maths, oops 😬

(I've got a maths degree and everything, the shame...)

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122006063#Comment_122006063

We won't tell anyone you multiplied by 0.2 instead of 0.02 😂

BorneTobyWilde

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Steviemak7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122005895#Comment_122005895

Matchday revenue includes more than gate receipts. It's all the hospitality too. So it's 2% of a figure much less than £80m

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122006400#Comment_122006400

Ah but I'm sure that end of it too would naturally go up, probably more than 2%, and rightly so considering

paulie21

Jota and Trent on bench

Ken Tucky

Some bench

Wouldn't mind Macca getting a night off soon

Hopefully we can do big damage tonight

rob316

So good having jota back for the run in, at the time that injury looked a season ender. We have badly missed his finishing.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122006762#Comment_122006762

True, but i am nervous of him keeping injury free until the end of the season

Robert2014

Is Konate not a first choice centre half? Dont understand why he starts if he cannot now start the weekend. Surely we want him playing weekends and Quansah midweek.

Damien360

Bloody lucky. Shocking defending, some save

~Rebel~

Kelleher saving face there… heh…

klose

Definitely a foul on Elliot in the build up

FernandoTorres

Good start from Gakpo

tinpib

Wow, another Alisson-esque save from Kelleher, brilliant stuff.

Damien360

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122006910#Comment_122006910

2 really good mazy runs. He's definitely up for it this evening.

citytillidie

That is the proper way to play advantage if that was an English ref the free kick would not have been awarded

facehugger99

Where have they been hiding this version of Gakpo all season.

~Rebel~

What a bench, incredible.

Need to be switched on at the back here though, De Ketelaere and Scamacca are decent quality forwards.

Charlie19

Gakpo some lad, the way he uses his strength to hold onto the ball and get out of a tight space is incredible.

TitianGerm

Gakpo was playing like this earlier in the season once he was moved out of midfield before he lost his form but when he plays like this he's great.

Jones taking to much out of the ball so far. He's always like this after coming back from injury.

Utopia Parkway

Seem incapable of starting games well these days. Always slow out of the blocks.

McDermotX

Some lads out there not quite switched on to say the least. Lackadaisical.

McDermotX

Ah here.....Darwin

That gets worse on replay

noodler

Ahhh snatching at it

TitianGerm

He should have taken an extra touch and hit it with his left foot to open the angle more.

Damien360

Terrible miss. Not clinical at all and hasn't improved all season.

happyoutscan

I've been a big supporter of all things Nunez but he's really pissing me off lately.

Infoseeker1975

Gapko has been brilliant so far, very disjointed with the changes, poor from Nunez as the keeper went to ground early so could have rounded him