Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

jones

I think everyone knows we can't compete financially with city, utd and Chelsea. The problem with Liverpool is they didn't invest *at all* after peaking with champions League and league wins. We've gone backwards and all rivals have strengthened. Mid table teams are outspending Liverpool at the moment. I'm all for running the club properly and not blowing 100mil on squad players but we need investment to compete.

Ps give Salah whatever he wants

giveitholly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483206#Comment_118483206

But look at the amount of money utd have squandered since post Fergie. I could be wrong but weren't liverpool the biggest spenders in the 90's. Now don't get me wrong I am as frustrated as you that the squad isn't being refreshed enough but unless there is a good manager and strategy in place then throwing money at the problem doesn't necessarily solve the issues the whole time

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483242#Comment_118483242

The lesson to be learned is not to squander the money. Liverpool have a famed unit for identifying players. I am not advocating spending a vault full of money, but failing to add to this team since we won the league has led to an obvious decline and the realisation that major changes are needed instead of gradual renewal, all at a time over the next two years when Klopp has told us he is leaving in 2024.

Occasional great performances get pointed to as evidence that this is still a great team, but performances like the one against Arsenal are coming with more regularity.

Enzokk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483231#Comment_118483231

If by investing nothing you mean Jota, Tsimikas, Thiago and Konate at almost 120m euro and signing most of our players to longer contracts is nothing, then sure we have invested nothing. This is the problem with not looking at the reality of the situation, you can create your own reality on what happened in the past.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483806#Comment_118483806

Were Ox, Milner, Keita, Mane, Firmino, Taki, Matip, Origi signed to longer contracts recently? All contracts coming to an end by 2024 when Klopp leaves, all will probably need to be replaced in the next couple of windows. On top of that list, Jordan Henderson will be 34, Thiago 33 by 2024, Thiago has missed a lot of games since he signed, Jordan isn’t the player he was and has also picked up niggly injuries that take longer to recover from the older he gets. That is 9 players with relatively short terms remaining on contracts and unlikely to be given new long term contracts, and Hendo whose contract expires in 2025.

With Nat and Nico looking to move, nearly half the current first team squad excluding keepers will need to be replaced by the start of the 24/25 season. That is the reality of delaying refreshment of the first team.

Vicxas

We on the telly box or are we being shafted again?

Fitz*

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483199#Comment_118483199

A clear out? lol

Liverpool need signings, not trimming the fat.

Who are all the senior players that are going to get sold?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483969#Comment_118483969

Shafted, foreign channels only.

amber69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484001#Comment_118484001

FSG penny pinching again.

Fitz*

Team vs Brentford:

Alisson

TAA Matip VVD Robbo

Fabinho Hendo Jones

Jota Ox Bobby

robwen

Starting XI

Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jota, Firmino, Jones

Damien360

I would have liked Konate in the rear and Tsimikas. But at least they are on bench

Fitz*

Wonder if it's a diamond?

Probably 4-3-3 with Ox in midfield, Jones LW & Jota RW.

noodler

I am happy with that team on the face of it.

Alot on Curtis to be the more forward looking of the three Midfielders tho.

Enzokk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483893#Comment_118483893

That is a different argument to what I replying to. Yes we will have a decisions to make on players in the next few years and that will be for the future. The poster was talking about past investment after we won the league and Champions League. I think I have shown we have signed new players and others to new contracts and that the line that our owners have "not invested at all" is false.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484259#Comment_118484259

That will be for the future? All those contracts except for Hendo’s are up by the time two more summer and January windows pass.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484136#Comment_118484136

Or 4 2 3 1

Ox right, Jones left, Bobby 10 and Jota up front,

Or

Ox right, Jota left, Jones 10, Booby up front

Lots of flexibility with this 11

J Mysterio

Edit

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484281#Comment_118484281

I mean, Salah aside, they’ve extended all the ones they wanted to extend, which was a lot of key players. You seem to be suggesting they should’ve extended all those other ones you list too, despite also commenting on the aging profile of the squad… you can’t have both. The un-extended ones would look to be the ones who will make way over the next year or two for younger additions.

i know we’re all a bit frustrated that we couldn’t build on the success more, but again, fckin massive pandemic losses and future uncertainty! That really can’t be stressed enough. It just is what it is.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484418#Comment_118484418

I did not say they should be extended, I said they are going to need to be replaced over a short timeframe. All bar Hendo end on/before June 24, none are candidates for long term renewals.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484432#Comment_118484432

Good thing that’s 2 and a half seasons away I guess… Honestly, I’m not too worried about any of those exits except for up front. Good forwards are tougher to find. But the club has 2 and a half seasons to find 2 new good quality forwards… that’s ok.

Charlie19

Be nice if they take advantage of the sun in this first half, it looks to be a problem for their defenders and goalie.

emo72

All over them. Can't score.

Charlie19

It will need to be a near perfect cross for Jota to beat Jansson in the air.

BorneTobyWilde

VVD really needs to be scoring more from set pieces, seems he wins every header in his own box, and not a single one in the oppositions box, maybe he should set up as a defender for the opposition when we have a set piece, not an attacker 😅

BorneTobyWilde

Off the line, from VVD ironically, should have scored !

BorneTobyWilde

All very pass pass pass, need individuals to be the difference in games like this, work the keeper, step up, so many touches in the box, no one wants to pull the trigger.

~Rebel~

Would like to see Fab shoot more when the ball drops to him on the edge off the box with a little space. Has such a lovely strike, and keeps it down, so even if it hits bodies it’d create a bit of chaos that might drop for us.

tinpib

Full disclosure, I backed nil nil at 11/1 at around 25mins. Feels very like recent games where we could be there for a week and create flip all.

citytillidie

Just looks like a repeat of Thursday night

machiavellianme

I've switched to the other game, just in time to see Bowen score again. Its a shame we didn't go for him in the summer.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484645#Comment_118484645

The vast majority on here said he wasn't good enough for us when we were linked.

He always seemed to do the right thing and pick up good positions but the end product was spotty. He's improved Thar though over the last little while.

rob316

More of the same of Thursday. Firmino is dreadful.

BorneTobyWilde

We're a team of Best Supporting Actors, no one wants to be the Leading Man, the Hero.

~Rebel~

Lovely turn and run from Ox there… maybe Bobby was the better passing option after though.

ha, I like the scouse shout there - “Pass it forward!!”

emo72

These look like they are more likely to score now. Depressing.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484662#Comment_118484662

Or Ox needed to go it alone, work the keeper, bring a save, and a corner. But he looked for a pass within shooting distance.

mightyreds

Matip needs some shooting practice not how to shoot but when

Vicxas

This is painful to watch. Again.

BorneTobyWilde

Go'wan Matip, showed some individualism , his shot was blocked, that was going in

tinpib

Konate on for Firmino, play Matip as number 9. If it's obvious to all of us on here then how come Klopp can't see it?!?

Agent Coulson

Fab is the man!

citytillidie

Goalllllllllllll

BorneTobyWilde

FABINHO !!!!!!!!!

emo72

Simple as that. Goal

BorneTobyWilde

Such a simple goal, after all the huff and puff

Fab the man.

~Rebel~

Deadly!

Ken Tucky

Matip is going to bang one in some day. It'll probably happen when we are 3 nil up rather than struggling to score.

Brentford are going to score here..we are going to need more than one...and that is a problem

Vicxas

Thank Christ for that